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2016 Postmortem

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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:54 PM Mar 2016

Ouch !!! - 'Sorry, Hillary, But We’re Done' - Salon [View all]

Sorry, Hillary, but we’re done: Keep repeating racist myths and praising Kissinger and the Reagans. I’m switching to Bernie Sanders
I assumed she'd be best candidate against Trump or Cruz. But now she's made herself almost impossible to support

Paul Campos - Salon
Tuesday, Mar 15, 2016 03:00 AM PDT


Hillary Clinton (Credit: AP/Tony Dejak)

<snip>

I’m sorry Hillary, but I just can’t do this anymore.

If the 2016 presidential campaign were a football game, the Democrats would be heading into it as two-touchdown favorites. Facing a Republican Party that seems to have collectively lost its mind, America’s purportedly liberal party only needs to put forth a minimally competent candidate to win an election in which that candidate will face either a reality TV star who combines ranting racist rhetoric with a bottomless ignorance of every policy question under the sun, or an extreme right-wing religious fanatic.

With the presidential election all but being handed to them, the Democratic Party’s powers that be have almost unanimously decided that Hillary Clinton is liberal America’s best hope to keep the nation from being taken over by right-wing maniacs. (In terms of endorsements, FiveThirtyEight.com’s formula currently has Clinton ahead of Bernie Sanders by a total of 478 to six. Even the much-reviled Donald Trump has more support among Republican power brokers than Sanders has from Democratic pooh-bahs).

The problem with this decision is that it’s becoming clear that Hillary Clinton is a really bad candidate. I say that not as a Bernie Sanders supporter: my attitude toward the Democratic primary has been that just about the only relevant consideration is the question of whether Clinton or Sanders would be more likely to win the general election, given how catastrophic a GOP win would be.

Until recently, I was assuming that Clinton would be a stronger challenger to either Trump or Cruz, so I was hoping she would win out against Sanders. But I’ve changed my mind about that. Clinton keeps making serious mistakes – and these mistakes follow a pattern that reveal why she’s making it increasingly difficult for even mildly progressive voters to support her.

Clinton’s latest blunder was her bizarre claim that Nancy and Ronald Reagan played an important role in getting Americans to talk about AIDS in the 1980s:

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More: http://www.salon.com/2016/03/15/sorry_hillary_but_were_done_keep_repeating_racist_myths_and_praising_kissinger_and_the_reagans_im_switching_to_bernie_sanders/


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campos may be done... artyteacher Mar 2016 #1
To all our detriment... gcomeau Mar 2016 #3
You and I, certainly. The 1% would do quite well... Yurovsky Mar 2016 #6
They always do mathewsleep Mar 2016 #37
+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #51
Yes, she is well on her way. Alfresco Mar 2016 #4
I keep seeing Clinton supporters cheering this... gcomeau Mar 2016 #8
It's not about policy; it's about Patronage. closeupready Mar 2016 #13
her supporters *think* they get spoils...they don't nashville_brook Mar 2016 #65
As usual LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #53
I almost alerted on your post. It's really unfair to ask a Clinton supporter about issues. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #96
They can't show ONE instance of Clinton championing an issue when championing it wasn't cool. SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #95
I dare you to name one policy Hillary supported before supporting it was cool. JUST ONE. SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #78
Good Morning. Did you enjoy your evening? Alfresco Mar 2016 #83
Really? You're going to respond to *that* question with empty gloating? Marr Mar 2016 #92
Mission accomplished. nt SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #94
"When you don't have an answer, change the question." — anonymous nt SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #93
Maybe not, but it IS time... dchill Mar 2016 #5
More people are waking up and realizing how bad she is... nt revbones Mar 2016 #2
Ouch indeed! NWCorona Mar 2016 #7
Clone Bernie's positions to the point that SNL did a perfect spoof on her & yet Hillary had the jillan Mar 2016 #9
Yup! that skit is why I used clone NWCorona Mar 2016 #14
You didn't finish your sentence pdsimdars Mar 2016 #64
Back in 2008 she was also a really bad candidate. SheilaT Mar 2016 #29
Campos, HA Goodman et al cosmicone Mar 2016 #10
I've got to hand it to you: at least you didn't try to shoot the messenger this time. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #80
Anyone who thinks that she would be the best candidate is clueless. Skwmom Mar 2016 #11
And probably well-off too. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #81
K N R-ed Faux pas Mar 2016 #12
"This week she engaged in some good old-fashioned red-baiting, SixString Mar 2016 #15
Wish I could recommend this post... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #27
Me, too! When I was in St. Paul to protest/march against the RNC in 2008 kas125 Mar 2016 #36
Oh lucky you!! ljm2002 Mar 2016 #38
....! Thank You! KoKo Mar 2016 #40
I like the football metaphor... She's basically Mark Sanchez fbc Mar 2016 #16
WOW!!! erlewyne Mar 2016 #17
K&R warrprayer Mar 2016 #18
K&R -- thanks, Willy! senz Mar 2016 #19
Yep billhicks76 Mar 2016 #20
And under the bus goes Paul Campos shawn703 Mar 2016 #21
because it had some bad writing and simplistic thinking.” NCTraveler Mar 2016 #22
Hey WillieT, I just got a tip. erlewyne Mar 2016 #23
Why can't they vote for Bernie Sanders? cabineer Mar 2016 #57
Bernie is an Independent. erlewyne Mar 2016 #60
I'm glad you explained that dlwickham Mar 2016 #71
this makes no sense hopemountain Mar 2016 #77
Oh please. Salon has been in the tank for Sanders since before the New Year. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #24
You love Bush, Kissinger, and Cheny Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #28
Is this what passes for progressive argument these days? No wonder you're stuck on the fringe. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #33
My Fringe...... was FDR and JFK Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #35
Interesting that you mention FDR and JFK. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #91
What the fuck is wrong with you? Bradical79 Mar 2016 #75
Bullshit. Welcome to DU. bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #30
any white male writer who can toss together an anti-Clinton piece in five minutes. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #42
Amanda Marcotte? maggies farm Mar 2016 #43
Every interesting. sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #48
ad hominen dismissal John Poet Mar 2016 #76
Too funny. Especially the phony whine about SC. n/t bvf Mar 2016 #50
hahahahaha! nashville_brook Mar 2016 #66
Total K & R! SoapBox Mar 2016 #25
Why would anyone assume Hillary would be a strong challenger to Trump or Cruz? Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #26
This^^^^^ AlbertCat Mar 2016 #47
Bill Clinton's own advisor lays out just how weak she is Lorien Mar 2016 #63
Gotta agree with that marions ghost Mar 2016 #74
VERY good point. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #82
Damn! Rebkeh Mar 2016 #31
A sprained ankle is an inconvenience, easily healed sarge43 Mar 2016 #54
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #32
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #34
Well, that summed it up succinctly. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #39
I'd actually had never heard of Salon PatrynXX Mar 2016 #41
K&R! Duval Mar 2016 #44
K&R vintx Mar 2016 #45
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #46
Not surprising that this article is so popular in GD:P. Paladin Mar 2016 #49
Yes, in the OPEN discussion area of DEMOCRATIC underground it is certainly popular. gcomeau Mar 2016 #56
Thanks, but no thanks! HenryWallace Mar 2016 #52
This is what happens when Bill and Hill hang with Dubya and Daddy. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #58
Kickin` for the Bern Man democrank Mar 2016 #59
slowly, it became obvious.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #61
K & R Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #62
The future is too important to let Clinton screw this up. tabasco Mar 2016 #67
I voted for Bernie FlaGranny Mar 2016 #84
Disgusted Liberal Here noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #68
I crossed that threshold years ago. It was so disappointing to see the DNC and DWS WestSeattle2 Mar 2016 #69
Hillary's Alzheimer's/stem cell "correction" was just as wrong. merrily Mar 2016 #70
KnR! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #72
Hillaryvs. Trump in November. Well over half of those who bother to vote will be voting Doctor_J Mar 2016 #73
YES! My sentiments exactly! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #79
Bernie or Bust. Either we get him as nominee or you perish johnlucas Mar 2016 #85
Sterling political analysis. randome Mar 2016 #86
No you don't. The DEMOCRATIC can't win without the UNDERGROUND. johnlucas Mar 2016 #87
Hillary lost one more self styled supporter, Progressive dog Mar 2016 #88
Hillary Hasn't Lost Me... chwaliszewski Mar 2016 #89
"Sorry, Sanders, But You're Done." johnp3907 Mar 2016 #90
So are the Democrats . TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #98
When I saw this yesterday morning BainsBane Mar 2016 #97
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