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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
108. You know people who brag about visiting "x" number of states? or countries?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:54 AM
Feb 2016

Dashing around Europe on some rushed tour: "See 10 countries in 2 weeks!"

Hillary Clinton's Fly By Diplomacy - quantity over quality - WAY over.

Madeleine Albright visited 96 countries in 4 years; Condoleeza Rice went to 85 countries in her 4 years. But Clinton went to 112! Golly Gumdrops! That must make her the best Secretary of State ever!

Hill has counted countries where her plane stopped for an hour and she met some local officials in the airport before taking off again. She'd go on multi-country "listening tours". It has been described as "Obama got what he wanted - Hillary out of town, and Clinton got what she wanted - endless media exposure in anticipation of another run for the presidency."

She'd find an excuse of giving a speech or receiving an award to check another country off of her bucket list. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-most-traveled-secretary-of-state-in-us-history/

Three countries in 72 hours???? "Clinton will visit three countries in about 72 hours, including Australia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea." http://thehill.com/capital-living/in-the-know/75361-democratic-lawmaker-condemns-clintons-fly-by-diplomacy

Then there was her 7 nation, 12 day tour of Africa! Kenya, South Africa, Angola, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Liberia, and Cape Verde. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111547358

Analysts also point to the lack of a landmark achievement that bears her name -- something on the scale of Henry Kissinger's work on detente or George Marshall's theory of containment -- or a breakthrough on a major international problem during her time on the job.

Many in Washington's foreign policy community say she leaves behind a legacy that is very good, but not extraordinary.

Michael O'Hanlon, the director of foreign-policy research at the Brookings Institution, puts Clinton one notch below history's most memorable secretaries of state.

Aaron David Miller, a U.S. foreign-policy expert at Washington's Woodrow Wilson Center, says the White House rarely gave Clinton the reins on "big-think strategy.” He says special envoys appointed by the president, like the late Richard Holbrooke, who worked on Afghanistan and Pakistan, sometimes overshadowed Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/weekinreview/16gettleman.html?_r=0

http://www.rferl.org/content/clinton-stepping-down/24890148.html
K&R If you think Bernie killed it tonight!! [View all] Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 OP
Yes, and he really smacked down Matthews, too. lob1 Feb 2016 #1
He was fantastic in every way! nt morningglory Feb 2016 #2
Chris Matthews really tried to take him down in the beginning Samantha Feb 2016 #3
Matthews was being purposefully obtuse. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #25
Tweety's "purposely obtuse" (perfect description) plan backfired! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #64
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And I forgot to say passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #110
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I'm glad you asked that. I've been doing it all wrong. platitudipus Feb 2016 #97
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They call it a 'kick' because it kicks the thread back to the top of the forum ... Nt Trajan Feb 2016 #32
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He is good with his usual stuff but he's still very weak on foreign policy questions. book_worm Feb 2016 #9
Which question and what answer, Hillary Clinton favorite group? nt valerief Feb 2016 #12
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" As close to a superman as we're going to get" Plucketeer Feb 2016 #82
I don't know if anyone's noticed, but he's the ONLY guy. n/t Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #153
What is weak on foreign policy questions? BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #15
Good point about the name dropping. n/t Wilms Feb 2016 #26
He also has sound enough judgment... freddyt Feb 2016 #47
You know people who brag about visiting "x" number of states? or countries? Divernan Feb 2016 #108
Notice they bring up the HRC "talking point" re foreign policy... dorkzilla Feb 2016 #119
That meme was weeks ago - do you need the new talking points? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #17
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Damn you are getting slammed here. This is not your protective group you know. So, any specifics? thereismore Feb 2016 #24
He was great on foreign policy questions. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #31
That is such a milquetoast complaint ... Trajan Feb 2016 #46
Bu..bu..but... freddyt Feb 2016 #48
Don't forget HRC also lobbied for the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership). If that is pushed through FighttheFuture Feb 2016 #134
While Bernie is no weak kneed Dove that will allow the U.S. to be bullied, he will not get us Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #140
Explain. bvf Feb 2016 #52
funny, you ask a simple question and he disapears. typical litlbilly Feb 2016 #88
Whereas Clinton is just wrong on foreign policy. californiabernin Feb 2016 #57
I don't know what you mean dr60omg Feb 2016 #77
A person isn't weak just because he won't go to war for nothing. Doitnow Feb 2016 #102
In my view, Bernie showed tonight that he will be strong and fearless in handling foreign policy JDPriestly Feb 2016 #116
He would definitely fail the sniper fire test. snort Feb 2016 #131
Funny how there are a lot of foreigners hoping he is elected artislife Feb 2016 #132
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Yup artislife Feb 2016 #151
War is business ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #159
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Just think if Chris would have treated Clinton in that manner? nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #13
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There would be whining and gnashing of teeth the likes of which we have never seen. nc4bo Feb 2016 #65
He would have been fired. Kittycat Feb 2016 #101
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Chris looked gleeful at the end. Skwmom Feb 2016 #18
maybe he was relieved his beatdown was over :) nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #35
it was excellent despite the hectoring of Tweety the badger. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #19
K n R!! bbgrunt Feb 2016 #20
Bernie was superb, strong, quick: presidential and statesmanlike bigtime! appalachiablue Feb 2016 #23
Formidable!!! Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #59
Yes indeed. He's a force, and his facile thinking and communcation appalachiablue Feb 2016 #61
Absolutely. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #144
I disagree Mathews did not look gleeful at the end he looked pissed. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #27
I like the way Rachel rephrased the little tiff Bernie and Tweety had Dem2 Feb 2016 #28
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I just can't figure out what people would *rather* see from Bernie renate Feb 2016 #58
He has stuck to his message Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #71
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Bernie was able to communicate his ideas and a way forward..why do bobble heads like Matthews Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #30
Maybe because he wasn't acting - he just is one. Marie Marie Feb 2016 #60
I think Tweety was vaccinated with a record needle. Will not shut up. agracie Feb 2016 #80
lol Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #90
KnR!!!! n/t alittlelark Feb 2016 #33
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Video: MelissaB Feb 2016 #37
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You're welcome! MelissaB Feb 2016 #51
I think this is part 2 of the video: MelissaB Feb 2016 #49
Thank you. Duppers Feb 2016 #105
That's awesome! CrispyQ Feb 2016 #137
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Bernie wiped the floor with Tweetie tonight. What a thrilling conversation, he wore poor Chris out! sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #41
About midway through, I heard him say... Oilwellian Feb 2016 #87
I heard that too. I read that Bernie loves to debate issues like that, that he would stay up all sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #99
I found it sort of shocking. I think Tweety's mission was to harass Bernie Enthusiast Feb 2016 #124
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K & R! lonestarnot Feb 2016 #72
Bernie isn't just running against Hillary, he's running against corporate shills like Tweety. jalan48 Feb 2016 #73
It is obvious - but it is not laughable. truedelphi Feb 2016 #76
Matthew's was out of his element on this one and he knew it. jalan48 Feb 2016 #85
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He was great ornotna Feb 2016 #83
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K & R !! Bryce Butler Feb 2016 #86
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He should have pointed out what an ass Matthews was being. Other than that, he was great merrily Feb 2016 #94
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He's SOOOO impressive! Gonna be a helluva President! AzDar Feb 2016 #98
Thoughout this entire thread there has been one word missing on Duckfan Feb 2016 #100
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my husband said Bernie was great; didn't see it as was working amborin Feb 2016 #109
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K&R n/t That Guy 888 Feb 2016 #113
Watching it now. He's doing good, but the Gitmo answer was very poor. Kentonio Feb 2016 #114
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He hit it out of the ballpark and showed that he is made of strong stuff. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #115
K&R hwmnbn Feb 2016 #117
And there it was for all to see Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2016 #118
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K&R.. disillusioned73 Feb 2016 #122
He was great . . . when Chris Matthews allowed him to speak. Vinca Feb 2016 #123
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Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #127
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I am supporting Bernie as the primaries roll along-make no doubt randr Feb 2016 #129
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K AND R! SoapBox Feb 2016 #133
just finished watching it. FREAKIN AWESOME navarth Feb 2016 #136
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If Matthews LittleGirl Feb 2016 #139
Any video links? Babel_17 Feb 2016 #141
KnR nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #142
Kay 'n Ray!! KansDem Feb 2016 #149
300th recommend. Land Shark Feb 2016 #152
I found it on YouTube but I just can't handle Tweety, sorry. Towlie Feb 2016 #156
Thank you! Babel_17 Feb 2016 #157
K & R LWolf Feb 2016 #158
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