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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I'm old and jaded. I sure hate to see the enthusiasm of young people stifled instead of encouraged. [View all]farleftlib
(2,125 posts)5. It's actually
a zero-sum game, not zero-some. The sum at the end of the game is zero for the one who loses.
In game theory and economic theory, a zero-sum game is a mathematical representation of a situation in which each participant's gain (or loss) of utility is exactly balanced by the losses (or gains) of the utility of the other participant(s).
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I'm old and jaded. I sure hate to see the enthusiasm of young people stifled instead of encouraged. [View all]
Armstead
Feb 2016
OP
Suppression seems to be the main theme anymore combined with divide and conquer. I don't even
RKP5637
Feb 2016
#1
You are incorrect that "the sum at the end of the game is zero for the one who loses."
Vattel
Feb 2016
#67
Your comment would make sense if the slamming of young voters did not happen in advance of any
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2016
#102
Maybe if the caucus wouldn't have been such chaos he would have prevailed. Amazing how they REFUSED
Skwmom
Feb 2016
#13
Point to any instance where "chaos" kept someone who supported Sanders from voting...
brooklynite
Feb 2016
#54
If I were a young Hillary supporter I wouldn't feel very welcome on this forum.
grossproffit
Feb 2016
#7
If you were a young Hillary supporter, you would be advocating the final sale of our democracy
FiveGoodMen
Feb 2016
#45
If they are told to "Give up and support the Meh candidate of the status quo.."
Armstead
Feb 2016
#16
so we should give credence to threats of staying home if their candidate is not nominated?
DrDan
Feb 2016
#20
To me his attitude seems to be to look at the situation in the general election logically
mythology
Feb 2016
#106
I think the "everyone is corrupt/ establishment except for Bernie" thing is stifling the vote.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#18
He is beating the "we're all going to make money" drum pretty loudly, and it's working.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#27
Oh please, casting shade on Planned Parenthood, the CBC, and most every other person who has
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#57
Sanders did dismiss PP after they endorsed Clinton. Foolish to have sour grapes like that.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#98
I think a lot of people miss the nuances, and have fallen for the "all the same" crap...
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#118
I agree with you there. Im still trying to figure out what Trump is playing at. Best I can think of
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#125
I had resisted listening to anything but sound bites, and after seeing him last night....
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#135
A familiar dance: 1) shit on young voters, 2) shit on their dreams, 3) bitch about their low turnout
Attorney in Texas
Feb 2016
#19
Maggie if we all did what Bernie said and were to pressure those that are supposed
bkkyosemite
Feb 2016
#31
That's exactly what they want. For all of us to give up and stop being enthusiastic.
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#28
Better than McGovern redux. But I basically agree with you. Growing up is not easy.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#32
We've been "holding our ground since the 80's" and look what it has gotten us
Armstead
Feb 2016
#117
I am not trying to be disrespectful but your definition of neoliberalism is incorrect
dr60omg
Feb 2016
#78
Yes I know and now people can read the book for free and watch the movie for free
dr60omg
Feb 2016
#109
I don't want to see it stifled either. Which is why I am not fond of candidates pushing for things
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#94
We all are going to die which makes life meaningless. Nihilism is objective truth.
Armstead
Feb 2016
#112
What is he doing to help elect other Dems to office? The ones he will need to make changes?
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#120
He is going to get a fuckload of really liberal progressive youth out to vote for one.
Goblinmonger
Feb 2016
#122
If he isnt even trying to help people get elected, how do you think they will work for him
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#127
Is Clinton getting record turnout? And Sanders got many more votes than Trump in NH
Armstead
Feb 2016
#129
Clinton will do fine in the GE. Thats when Dems turnout. About twice as many DEMS voted in the 08
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#130
It's also important for young voters to learn that we live in a representative democracy.
Trust Buster
Feb 2016
#95
I think the mistake that many current Democrats make is to assume that there is some inherent value
Maedhros
Feb 2016
#136
I think you're right...My loyalty is primarily residual for what it used to stand for
Armstead
Feb 2016
#137
Exactly. Down here in Florida - being admonished to support the "D" no matter what,
djean111
Feb 2016
#151
So many of these young people expect the *they* will get free college. That's why they support SBS
lunamagica
Feb 2016
#152
And the only way to encourage young people is to let them have their own way?
brooklynite
Feb 2016
#154