2016 Postmortem

scottie55

(1,400 posts) Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:12 PM Feb 2016

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Rec If You Truly Believe Bernie Won The Iowa Caucus [View all]

I am convinced he got a substantial majority of total votes, and even won their funky caucus.

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Rec If You Truly Believe Bernie Won The Iowa Caucus [View all] scottie55 Feb 2016 OP

I don't know, but I'd like an accurate count to find out for sure. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #1

+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #4

The sole attendee of one saw the total reported as 1 for hrc roguevalley Feb 2016 #29

Yeah really, no more "coin tosses"!! CountAllVotes Feb 2016 #7

Really Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #122

I agree. One man, one woman, one vote saidsimplesimon Feb 2016 #135

^^This^^ Sometimes it isn't possible to know for sure eridani Feb 2016 #123

They are crowd sourcing the Iowa results precinct by precinct Bernblu Feb 2016 #124

+1 berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #126

I don't know. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #2

K & R! n/t in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #3

No Doubt About It cantbeserious Feb 2016 #5

I have been watching CNN and MSNBC This Morning scottie55 Feb 2016 #6

There is an investigation ongoing CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #36

Thanks so much for your stellar reporting on this issue! frylock Feb 2016 #40

Thank you CoffeeCat for keeping us informed sorechasm Feb 2016 #54

I just sent a letter encouraging their pursuit of this story left lowrider Feb 2016 #64

I just wrote to the Demoines Register thanking them for demanding an examination PWPippin Feb 2016 #70

thx 4 ur thoughts ellennelle Feb 2016 #72

I think it's important that Bernie Supporters continue this challenge. Cowpunk Feb 2016 #75

Thanks, CoffeeCat, for your activism and chervilant Feb 2016 #89

Thank you CoffeCat. I'll be glad to help however I can. Duval Feb 2016 #92

Deserves a rec all by itself. n/t bvf Feb 2016 #103

wow, this is freaking amazing. nashville_brook Feb 2016 #120

it is very wise to have the campaign precinct captains hopemountain Feb 2016 #127

Thank You CoffeeCat !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #131

How about somebody in Iowa actually saltpoint Feb 2016 #8

Iowa chief drives a car with hrc 2016 on the plate. our chance roguevalley Feb 2016 #30

Ah. I'm guessing that's an indication saltpoint Feb 2016 #43

I disagree... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #56

The Iowa count prompted suspicion if the saltpoint Feb 2016 #59

That is... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #76

I'm on board, DUbeornot2be. eom saltpoint Feb 2016 #88

See CoffeeCat's posts... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #31

Mmm. Not good for democracy, as saltpoint Feb 2016 #44

That is exactly what her posts explain... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #78

my understanding is that they don't actually tally votes during the caucuses Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #112

Yes. I realize I'm calling for a complete saltpoint Feb 2016 #119

How can you truly believe it? BillZBubb Feb 2016 #9

Is that what you thought in Florida 2000? Ford_Prefect Feb 2016 #69

Yeah right, the Iowa caucus is just as important as Florida in 2000! BillZBubb Feb 2016 #80

c'mon out there - if you believe, clap your hands bigtree Feb 2016 #10

LOL, I thought of the same thing. Only the audience can save Tinkerbell! FSogol Feb 2016 #13

I think likely he did. I know I do not trust the DNC and local counts. The entire election system RKP5637 Feb 2016 #11

Don't know. Primary evidence is being withheld in an apparent attempt to hide the truth. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #12

He probably won, but can it be shown one way or another? demwing Feb 2016 #14

Just want an accurate accounting. What's wrong with wanting that? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #15

I just think the contests this close should have their results verified. Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #16

It's almost impossible chervilant Feb 2016 #41

I think he might have won the majority of votes, but I don't think he won. fbc Feb 2016 #17

Even if he didn't technically get more votes... he still won, since Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #18

Hiding the results of the Iowa election, Merryland Feb 2016 #19

There are strong indications he did. Avalux Feb 2016 #20

There are enough examples of switched voting reports where delegate votes for Bernie were changed Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #21

Yes! SoapBox Feb 2016 #22

I don't think there is any question he got a MAJORITY vote count... basselope Feb 2016 #23

The lack of transparency confirms it. 99Forever Feb 2016 #24

Quite true! If it were all above board, there would be no reason to hide it! ALL election results RKP5637 Feb 2016 #26

Did you happen to notice that... 99Forever Feb 2016 #37

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #38

Iowans claim instances when Sanders was shorted delegates totodeinhere Feb 2016 #25

could go either way Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #27

I think he proved his electability, which is definitely a win bhikkhu Feb 2016 #28

Imagine The News Cycle Where They Have To Restate And Say Bernie Won Iowa scottie55 Feb 2016 #33

It'd be buried on page 37 nxylas Feb 2016 #67

if the worksheets proved that hillary won, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #32

Yes! eom Got it Feb 2016 #34

I'm in avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #35

He didn't win my precinct. Inspired Feb 2016 #39

We'll most likely never know CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #47

I hope the Des Moines Register follows up with its reporting on this gyroscope Feb 2016 #42

Great cartoon! pinebox Feb 2016 #45

That cartoon was on the front page of SJ Mercury News the other day gyroscope Feb 2016 #48

Can't see that it is clear yet, nor that it will matter in the long run. Festivito Feb 2016 #46

if this was a Popular vote... druidity33 Feb 2016 #49

I dunno. Just going to wait to see how the various investigations play out. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #50

I learned all I need to know about this issue from SNL. CincyDem Feb 2016 #51

Don't really care, it won't determine the eventual winner. I don't believe there was any conspiracy. Hoyt Feb 2016 #52

It will hurt Hillary more Phil1934 Feb 2016 #53

It's possible that he did, but I, for one, can't say he definitely did Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #55

HILLARY IS A CHEATER! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #57

I think he did, but I also think it was close and not hard to cheat on. K&R Stevepol Feb 2016 #58

he lost get over it...n/t asuhornets Feb 2016 #60

see #62 840high Feb 2016 #63

The strongest evidence that he did is the foot dragging by the other side for an audit. We don't GoneFishin Feb 2016 #61

See this 840high Feb 2016 #62

Clinton and Schultz don't want transparency. That in itself is as much as an admission. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #65

I do, too. DrBulldog Feb 2016 #66

It certainly looks (and smells) like that. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #68

Without a doubt! dpatbrown Feb 2016 #71

Still harping about this? Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #73

The Iowa caucus is so awful on so many levels. oberliner Feb 2016 #74

K&R MissDeeds Feb 2016 #77

Clap if you believe! Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #79

I don't know, but I want to know Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #81

I believe it! K&R! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #82

I believe he won the popular vote. TheFarseer Feb 2016 #83

I believe he won. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #84

I repeat post #1 olddots Feb 2016 #85

Malfeasance from day 1? I wouldn't doubt it. nt silvershadow Feb 2016 #86

Yes but total votes don't get delegates. roody Feb 2016 #87

How are we supposed to know? Chemisse Feb 2016 #90

K&R nt Duval Feb 2016 #91

Time to take Iowa and New Hampshire and make them the last primary. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #93

He won the popular vote for sure and maybe the delegate count too Bernblu Feb 2016 #94

K & R dae Feb 2016 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #96

I'd say welcome...but with that screen name I'm guessing you may not be here long. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #97

Show Us The Numbers scottie55 Feb 2016 #105

I have no doubt Bernie won. Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #98

K&R When a candidate runs behind and then moves up to jwirr Feb 2016 #99

Rec Populist_Prole Feb 2016 #100

Nip it! Jean Genie Feb 2016 #101

And as the primary proceeds we are going to hear more and more . ... ThreeWayFanny Feb 2016 #102

What's Most Recs Record On DU? billhicks76 Feb 2016 #104

I'd like to know that as well. /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #130

I see, so actual voting results are inconsequential BainsBane Feb 2016 #106

It Looks Like 3/4 Of DU'ers Think What I Think scottie55 Feb 2016 #107

Hillary Could End All This Speculation In A Heartbeat scottie55 Feb 2016 #108

"Our votes still count" scottie55 Feb 2016 #110

So - no rec from the Sanders campaign? brooklynite Feb 2016 #109

Bernie Doesn't Want The Sore Loser Label Attached To Him By The Lazy Media scottie55 Feb 2016 #113

Not Lazy Media scottie55 Feb 2016 #115

That's why I think his campaign's response was the right one nxylas Feb 2016 #128

He did NOT win the caucus but no one will ever know how many actual voters pnwmom Feb 2016 #111

How Do You Know He Didn't Win The Caucuses? scottie55 Feb 2016 #114

Because his campaign sat down with the Party and went over all the results pnwmom Feb 2016 #117

Releasing raw data would help, Paka Feb 2016 #116

I know he won the popular vote... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #118

Has DU ever done a poll to see who's voting for Hillary/Bernie/Other? trillion Feb 2016 #121

Yes Bwprimal1 Feb 2016 #125

Rec # 400. nt Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #129

426, so far RiverLover Feb 2016 #132

Let it go Roy Rolling Feb 2016 #133

I take it you aren't rec #427. I also won't let making a joke of the Democratic process go. RiverLover Feb 2016 #134

I don't know. I want to know. We must have a clear and open system. This is a democracy. Gregorian Feb 2016 #136