Atheists Skeptical of Atwill’s Claim of a ‘Fabricated Jesus’

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37. Historical fact verses belief is always a stalemate

I am about as much as a Biblical scholar as Atwill, thought my study is in Biology and Anthropology, I am also Jewish. My impression is that faith and belief follow closely changes to the Earths environmental experiences over long times. If God is a perpetuated motion through the universe that has no knowable beginning or end, a new experience or change might have the finite and infinite redefined, i.e. the introduction of a finite (man or Christ) to embody a new and experienced motion..."son of God", with changes in moral reflections: this also gives no reason why Christ may not had existed, along with possible ways of interpretation to say he was invented when viewing in retrospect. Most important is the way science, that pervades in large radius, views the world.....from Einstein we have the interconcertability of energy (infinite, god) to matter (finite, man) and are able to alternate perspective at will in our testimonies as we hold the infinite universe to be a separate mathematical construct (as in General Theory of Relativity) within which life/man is a minor element(Einstein knew he didnt add up well and was continually working on it while those who proceded him had fewer question). It is better and more logical and arguable to say that the universe is basically the same everywhere and goes on endlessly, unexplanably in rational terms, from each anywhere, if we cannot ever see all places to verify our beliefs. It is better to consider that the premises of the test equipment, and what is tested make up "universe"..e.g. man and all he senses, or a radio station broadcast and the broadcast equipment. Though the tenets of faith seem to associate with historical fact, verified fact is a minor component, but that we understand how our minds and the universe see alike a whole with both forest and trees. Between science/physical fact and what is beyond witness, physical and spiritual there is always a stalemate and we should be wary of attempts to close the gap, what we do in our minds in the construction of forest and trees always measures from behavior into the infinitely older whole. Perhaps in modern setting we do not interpret accurately for meaning, seek historical fact, what is written long ago. It is very interesting that the concept of energy-matter conversion ( infinite god verses a human god) is almost part of ordinary comprehensions, yet the most intelligent of us struggle to understand what the scientist says, who has placed all the parts wrong in the whole....the theory and facts of science are very subjective to history.