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struggle4progress

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8. The dynamics are fascinating here. Richard Carrier, whom I regard as somewhat
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:28 PM
Oct 2013

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of an ax-grinder, but who at least has some genuine academic credentials, feels obliged to revisit Atwill's thesis after a year, simply to denounce it as crankish. At the same time, Acharya S, whom I consider as crankish as Atwill, similarly revisits Atwill's thesis after a year, simply to denounce it. And Thomas Verenna, who questions the historicity of Jesus, likewise revisits Atwill's thesis after a year, simply to denounce it. Meanwhile, Dawkins, who was at least once competent as an expositor of evolutionary ideas, is busily tweeting away to publicize Atwill's forthcoming talk, which exhibits just how intellectually vapid Dawkins can sometimes be

All I have to say is "prove it." Warpy Oct 2013 #1
It sounds like he's claiming he's found a smoking gun in Josephus: struggle4progress Oct 2013 #6
It's a weak recommendation, but scholars nowadays do more and more consider Wars of the Jews to be dimbear Oct 2013 #7
The practices of various ancient historians, as indicated by the writings that survive, struggle4progress Oct 2013 #9
Atwill’s Cranked-Up Jesus (Richard Carrier) struggle4progress Oct 2013 #2
A conversation on the Caesar's Messiah thesis (Acharya S) struggle4progress Oct 2013 #3
... I mean this is just golden cow scat. Seriously ... Since this “documentary” first appeared, struggle4progress Oct 2013 #4
It's the Piltdown Jesus nt Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #5
The dynamics are fascinating here. Richard Carrier, whom I regard as somewhat struggle4progress Oct 2013 #8
Notice that further down that stream folk suspect that those tweets don't actually originate from dimbear Oct 2013 #13
It's his account, according to a webpage at his Foundation for Reason and Science struggle4progress Oct 2013 #15
Piltdown was an effective hoax because it reported what we expected to hear Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #21
Er, isn't the entire Bible a bunch of "pseudo historic nonsense?" stopbush Oct 2013 #10
If that is in fact your view then I would merely counsel that your appropriate response struggle4progress Oct 2013 #11
That is a matter of opinion. I take some of it as Allegory and some as real. It is all a matter of hrmjustin Oct 2013 #12
"It's all a matter of what you believe." That is so depressing. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #23
Actually, it's a matter of skepticscott Oct 2013 #28
Modern repigs would stoop to such, and worse, to scare/control/placate/lessen resistance. xfundy Oct 2013 #14
How can smart atheists be bamboozled by Joseph Atwill? (PZ Myers) struggle4progress Oct 2013 #16
Has there ever been a religion that was created by a government that actually caught on? dimbear Oct 2013 #18
Emperor worship has been quite common, including pharoanic worship in ancient Egypt struggle4progress Oct 2013 #19
Well, in those cases skepticscott Oct 2013 #20
Joseph Atwill has not proven that Jesus was made up by the Romans struggle4progress Oct 2013 #17
Atheists are skeptical of Atwill Goblinmonger Oct 2013 #22
Winner! cleanhippie Oct 2013 #25
My thoughts exactly skepticscott Oct 2013 #27
Well, you did say this was the most likely explanation. rug Oct 2013 #31
Debunked? I don't think you are using that word correctly. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #44
I don't think you used the word concluded correctly. rug Oct 2013 #49
Different and better. nt Walk away Oct 2013 #26
Of course, there's a reason why skepticscott Oct 2013 #30
I find your acrimony to be clouding your thinking. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #24
Quelle horreur! I have provided links to the blog of Richard Carrier (who considers Jesus a myth), struggle4progress Oct 2013 #32
He sounds offended. rug Oct 2013 #36
Eh-yup: that's me struggle4progress Oct 2013 #40
Shame on you for being mean to Atwell? cleanhippie Oct 2013 #43
Here's what they're saying over at The Atheist Experience: struggle4progress Oct 2013 #47
Here's what they're saying over at Planet Atheism: struggle4progress Oct 2013 #48
What were your intentions in putting up a debunked conspiracy theory? rug Oct 2013 #50
Sounds a tad too convenient. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #29
Thanks for all this. I had seen a couple of them, but not all of them. cbayer Oct 2013 #33
The "Son of the Godhead" who has warned us about our reptilian overlords? That David Icke? struggle4progress Oct 2013 #38
One and the same. cbayer Oct 2013 #39
Maybe I should write him a letter: struggle4progress Oct 2013 #42
That is priceless! I think you covered just about everything, lol. cbayer Oct 2013 #53
This discussion has been inspiring, with believers and unbelievers united to out the truth. When dimbear Oct 2013 #34
It might be possible to also build practically anything. cbayer Oct 2013 #35
If it weren't so rare skepticscott Oct 2013 #52
Historical fact verses belief is always a stalemate mkirsh Oct 2013 #37
Welcome to DU! rug Oct 2013 #41
Welcome to DU and Welcome to the religion room. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #45
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #46
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