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9. Josephus writes that during the siege of Jerusalem in 70AD,
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:32 PM
Sep 2012

a Herodian named Saulus accompanied the Romans, cross-examining prisoners and negotiating on behalf of the Romans. Robert Eisenmann believes that this was Paul of Tarsus.

Relatives of Herod were a small group, much less those named Saulus who were cozy with the Romans. Paul's letters also appear to show increasing anger and alienation regarding the Jews, even if they contain some later emendations.

If Paul had been martyred, his martyrdom would have been memorialized like Peter, James, and many others. If Paul had been set free, that also would have been undoubtedly taken as a sign of God's providence -- it is also extremely likely that subsequent stories, letters, or sayings of Paul would exist after his release.

Paul becoming a Roman agent, however, would have been an embarrassment, and there tends to be a silence around embarrassing facts. For example, when Shabbatai Tzvi claimed to be the Jewish messiah in the 17th century and subsequently converted to Islam, his memory was all but buried.

It's unlikely that Paul's fate will ever be proven. This is the only version of events, however, that explains the silence.

well DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #1
Please don't link to lew rockwell. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #14
Interesting post Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #2
The only gnosticism in Paul's' teaching was his Leontius Sep 2012 #3
Well spoken. nt humblebum Sep 2012 #4
That would be if the Epistles were actually written by Paul Taverner Sep 2012 #7
I think only three of them are considered not to have Paul Leontius Sep 2012 #10
Check this article out Taverner Sep 2012 #12
I don't fully believe the conclusion he draws Leontius Sep 2012 #13
probably as many as five or seven Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #15
I'm not aware of many scholars who don't consider Leontius Sep 2012 #18
Elaine Pagels makes the case that Paul was a Gnostic Taverner Sep 2012 #8
The early history of Christianity is completely unknown intaglio Sep 2012 #5
There's a theory that there were three Jesuses Taverner Sep 2012 #6
"The fat one balances the two skinny ones." Nihil Sep 2012 #21
Josephus writes that during the siege of Jerusalem in 70AD, On the Road Sep 2012 #9
Reasonable nt Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #16
Flavius Josephus also wrote of Jesus and James, brother of Jesus, and SarahM32 Sep 2012 #19
Well, the Testimonium Flavianum is Disputed On the Road Sep 2012 #20
My favorite among these outlier theories is that the character Simon Magus is really Paul. dimbear Sep 2012 #11
unreasonable nt Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #17
Here's a link to the whole story starring FC Baur........ dimbear Sep 2012 #24
No. Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #22
Thanks for the clarifications. nt Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #23
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