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4. I did, warren. He answers the question by denying the premise.

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 06:51 PM

Sep 2016

He suggests there is nothing supernatural at all.

What about a supernatural God? Perhaps such an entity exists outside nature and its laws. If so, how would we detect it with our instruments? If a deity used natural forces to, say, cure someone's cancer by reprogramming the cancerous cells' DNA, that would make God nothing more than a skilled genetic engineer. If God used unknown supernatural forces, how might they interact with the known natural forces? And if such supernatural forces could somehow stir the particles in our universe, shouldn't we be able to detect them and thereby incorporate them into our theories about the natural world? Whence the supernatural?

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Is It Possible to Measure Supernatural or Paranormal Phenomena? [View all] Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 OP

No. rug Sep 2016 #1

Why not? Lordquinton Sep 2016 #15

Because it doesn't exist. AtheistCrusader Sep 2016 #16

Well, yea. Lordquinton Sep 2016 #18

good article beergood Sep 2016 #2

It is, as is Sean Carroll's book, on which Shermer's essay is based. Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #3

I did, warren. He answers the question by denying the premise. rug Sep 2016 #4

It still doesn't understand. Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #10

And you remain as passive-aggressive as ever. rug Sep 2016 #11

QED Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #12

It's sad to see this silly stuff in Scientific American struggle4progress Sep 2016 #5

SciAm has been at the forefront of debunking this crap for many decades. longship Sep 2016 #6

Actually debunking scammers is an excellent activity struggle4progress Sep 2016 #7

We'll, let's start with his final paragraph. longship Sep 2016 #8

If you are going to assert that a supernatural force exists, a force that can act on particles Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #9

Coincidence? Cartoonist Sep 2016 #13

That is awesome. longship Sep 2016 #14

Of course not. trotsky Sep 2016 #17

If you could measure it, it'd be natural and normal. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2016 #19