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(12,482 posts) Thu May 8, 2014, 10:25 AM May 2014

what is the most important aspect of the interaction between belivers and non believers [View all]

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	convincing the other side they are mistaken
	1 (11%)
	finding areas of common ground in the cause of equality and social justice.
	8 (89%)
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what is the most important aspect of the interaction between belivers and non believers [View all] arely staircase May 2014 OP

Common ground and respect for one another. hrmjustin May 2014 #1

the common ground can not be found with one side arely staircase May 2014 #9

Agree, the effort has to come from all sides and when there is cbayer May 2014 #12

Well that is one reason that I never question an athiests belief. That is personal and their right. hrmjustin May 2014 #13

I dint proselytize either arely staircase May 2014 #15

Yeah, you did. Goblinmonger May 2014 #17

No he didn't. Get a clue as to what proselytizing is. rug May 2014 #45

It's somewhat passive but when someone comes to my door with that AtheistCrusader May 2014 #144

I have been insulted in real life by atheists but it is very very rare. hrmjustin May 2014 #18

same here. real life attacks on my faith have come from fundamenatlist christians. nt arely staircase May 2014 #21

Yeah I would imagine where you are the fundamentalists are a huge issue. hrmjustin May 2014 #22

And I am an ambulatory pumpkin. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #142

Atheism is not a belief. phil89 May 2014 #161

Atheism incorporates beliefs. Starboard Tack May 2014 #179

You can call those things "beliefs" skepticscott May 2014 #191

Being convinced is believing based on evidence. Starboard Tack May 2014 #205

Laughable skepticscott May 2014 #212

Very good Scott. I share those beliefs with you. Starboard Tack May 2014 #220

Who 'we', white man? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #225

No, I am an atheist that aspires to common decency and respect for all. Starboard Tack May 2014 #245

Oh dear, you lost me there AC Starboard Tack May 2014 #342

You circle back 11 hours later and don't know SE Cupp is a female? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #343

Oh, I think we all do aspire to faith , in one way or another. Starboard Tack May 2014 #345

Really? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #347

Wow! What a wonderfully refreshing and honest post. Starboard Tack May 2014 #349

In other words, you BELIEVE that there is no God Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #241

I know you love to falsely attribute statements to other people skepticscott May 2014 #326

I do not "make up shit" about anyone or anything. Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #357

It is not "just as much an act of faith" not believe in unicorns, as to believe in them. enki23 May 2014 #370

To repeat Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #379

Why am I unsurprised that you think repeating something makes it true? enki23 May 2014 #381

And why am I unsurprised that you insist on denying an obvious fact? Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #383

I've gotta say, this little exchange is the freaking *essence* of debate with the religious enki23 May 2014 #385

103. Christian calls non-religious person a bigot skepticscott May 2014 #387

Thank you for that uninformative, patronizing and basically false statement Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #389

No, atheism does not incorporate any beliefs. Atheism does not state there is no god. phil89 May 2014 #211

Believing in something exisiting or not existing is still believing. Starboard Tack May 2014 #222

Wrong. I don't believe gods don't exist phil89 May 2014 #286

Which means you have considered the possibility Starboard Tack May 2014 #306

Again, wrong. phil89 May 2014 #337

OK, let's not worry about it. Starboard Tack May 2014 #340

Atheism makes the assertion that God does not exist Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #242

Atheism does not assert that god does not exist. phil89 May 2014 #287

You have no idea what you are talking about. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #224

Actually he does. TM99 May 2014 #228

The atheist isn't JUST the one who says "no" LostOne4Ever May 2014 #234

I strongly disagree. TM99 May 2014 #246

That's not what the words mean Goblinmonger May 2014 #247

Oh my goodness, that chart, I am stealing the hell out of that AtheistCrusader May 2014 #257

Maybe pictures will make it more clear, right? Goblinmonger May 2014 #258

It's perfect. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #259

Again, you don't understand gnostic/agnostic. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #256

And I strongly disagree with that LostOne4Ever May 2014 #263

^^THIS^^ Goblinmonger May 2014 #266

I'm reasonably certain it's willful. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #267

Probably LostOne4Ever May 2014 #269

That's not a problem Goblinmonger May 2014 #271

I FULLY understand LostOne4Ever May 2014 #279

This recent SE Cupp 'atheist' infestation is painfully obvious in nature. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #272

I agree LostOne4Ever May 2014 #275

Give it a week. They'll try something else instead. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #277

The best that I can do is encourage you TM99 May 2014 #285

What HAVEN'T you studied Goblinmonger May 2014 #288

No I don't think it was insulting LostOne4Ever May 2014 #289

Good. TM99 May 2014 #305

Now here we can find common ground! LostOne4Ever May 2014 #325

That's a lot of big words for someone who can't figure out what 'Atheist' means. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #293

People who are familiar with the culture and history okasha May 2014 #330

This again ignores the fact skepticscott May 2014 #335

My Robin Hood example LostOne4Ever May 2014 #338

So what about ST? okasha May 2014 #344

Where have I declared that he is not an atheist? LostOne4Ever May 2014 #346

Oh good grief, I just told you what agnostic means. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #249

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #281

I'll take that as an admission that you are wrong. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #284

You do make me laugh sometimes TM99 May 2014 #295

"But when it comes to the mind and psychology, yes, 'not believing' is a form of 'belief'." AtheistCrusader May 2014 #297

Have some dignity my friend. TM99 May 2014 #311

Interestingly there was a huge monkey-shit-flinging fight in here not too long ago AtheistCrusader May 2014 #312

I'm not smart enough to get into this discussion with educated debate and philosophy passiveporcupine May 2014 #362

Nice post ... Thanks wavesofeuphoria May 2014 #384

There is someone here who knows just WTF you're talking about Lordquinton May 2014 #350

Seem like he'll have to skepticscott May 2014 #365

Is your understanding of the issue really that incomplete? skepticscott May 2014 #327

Why would it require proof? stone space May 2014 #237

Exactly. Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #243

I don't. Even Dawkins doesn't. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #255

OOOO! Dawkins Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #260

Please re-read what I said. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #262

Evoking the sacred name of Dawkins, at which name Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #291

I don't say 'there is no god'. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #292

dawkins is basically the Atheist pope for many arely staircase May 2014 #301

Baloney skepticscott May 2014 #329

you are right arely staircase May 2014 #331

Error. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #253

"The extremists, on either side of the argument, are very similar to each other" Lordquinton May 2014 #351

Thank you for proving my point Starboard Tack May 2014 #361

By highlighting your post, yes I did Lordquinton May 2014 #364

If there is one thing I never do, it is equivocate. Starboard Tack May 2014 #368

No, thank you for the laugh. Lordquinton May 2014 #372

Now you are equivocating. Starboard Tack May 2014 #377

silly thesists asserting a nonbelief is a belief griloco May 2014 #348

heaven and hell arely staircase May 2014 #164

I always say I was saved 2000 years ago on a hill outside Jerusalem with the rest of humanity. hrmjustin May 2014 #165

me too arely staircase May 2014 #167

It does. hrmjustin May 2014 #168

It isn't about sides and one telling the other their beliefs are wrong. Starboard Tack May 2014 #23

I have walked into certain bars and provoked people with my mere presence arely staircase May 2014 #28

Ok, I have just got to ask. What is it about you that is so provocative in a bar? cbayer May 2014 #33

mowhawk and piercings arely staircase May 2014 #38

Got it! cbayer May 2014 #40

Oh and Jack was superb.. pangaia May 2014 #170

ok you have to explain nt arely staircase May 2014 #174

Cbayer mentioned Easy Rider pangaia May 2014 #182

Yep. I have said "nik, nik, nik" on more than one occasion. cbayer May 2014 #183

Umm... Ezra B is my favorite nik, nik, niker.. pangaia May 2014 #208

cool arely staircase May 2014 #185

Thank YOU for asking. pangaia May 2014 #210

You keep insisting it was your mere presence. That wasn't it. As has been explained to your repeated AtheistCrusader May 2014 #146

don't remember you from those bars. arely staircase May 2014 #157

Hyuck hyuck. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #159

And it is difficult to respect someone who shoehorns their belief into a protected group, intaglio May 2014 #101

respect for one another. AlbertCat May 2014 #116

Interesting Question. hrmjustin May 2014 #118

I don't think the believers here said that for the most part. AlbertCat May 2014 #131

Not all members of the Abrahamic religions believe in hell. hrmjustin May 2014 #132

As you know, I post a lot in this group and I have never seen anyone post that. cbayer May 2014 #145

perhaps you just post and don't read? Warren Stupidity May 2014 #150

One poster here thinks you will Lordquinton May 2014 #136

Who is that? cbayer May 2014 #147

You read this forum Lordquinton May 2014 #354

Oh, please. This meme is old and inaccurate. cbayer May 2014 #359

Is this what you mean skepticscott May 2014 #366

How about respectfully finding areas of commonality? Goblinmonger May 2014 #2

There wasn't a shred of respect in how he was treated in either of those threads. rug May 2014 #48

The very first post in that thread was thanking him/her LostOne4Ever May 2014 #133

Followed by? rug May 2014 #155

A post warning them that the language she/he used LostOne4Ever May 2014 #173

Is that a euphemism for a berating swarm? rug May 2014 #193

One post is a berating swarm? LostOne4Ever May 2014 #196

What would you call 89? rug May 2014 #199

In that specific case I would call it "well deserved" (nt) LostOne4Ever May 2014 #201

A "well deserved" berating swarm? rug May 2014 #202

If you want to call it that LostOne4Ever May 2014 #215

From the timestamps it looks like he poseted in Religion after he was blocked from A&A. rug May 2014 #303

Okay lets look over the time stamps LostOne4Ever May 2014 #324

Could be. rug May 2014 #341

Shit stirring Dorian Gray May 2014 #214

There's something sadly amusing about an atheist forum being so concerned with blasphemy. (nt) stone space May 2014 #236

Dialogue is nice, but can be difficult when confronted with fundamentalists, whether we are... stone space May 2014 #68

Double down. Goblinmonger May 2014 #69

Double down on what? My experiences with fundamentalism? They haven't been good. (nt) stone space May 2014 #70

Double down and feign being obtuse. Goblinmonger May 2014 #72

I can only assume that by me "doubling down" you mean that... stone space May 2014 #75

"a pattern that I have observed from some here" Goblinmonger May 2014 #81

"atheist fundamentalists" Lordquinton May 2014 #137

What is an "atheist fundamentalist"? phil89 May 2014 #162

here AtheistCrusader May 2014 #280

You're right that people often don't acknowledge their disrespect. cheyanne May 2014 #184

On, DU? Finding common ground is unquestionably more important, imo. cbayer May 2014 #3

How the fuck do we find 'common ground' with a group of people that believe they have an absolute AtheistCrusader May 2014 #5

Are you finding those people on DU? cbayer May 2014 #8

I certainly find apologists for them. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #10

Well, that may be true, but does being an "apologist" (whatever that means) cbayer May 2014 #14

Yes it does. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #19

Clearly that would not be an area of common ground. cbayer May 2014 #24

I do try not to do the AtheistCrusader May 2014 #26

I recognize that you are torn about this. cbayer May 2014 #31

I would probably have to avoid AtheistCrusader May 2014 #37

Clearly it is an issue that pushes your buttons and pushes them hard. cbayer May 2014 #39

I would be satisfied if we got to a point where AtheistCrusader May 2014 #43

Well, since that is not going to happen. cbayer May 2014 #49

I disagree with you there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #76

If anything, the intersection between religion and politics has grown tremendously cbayer May 2014 #78

You said passiveporcupine May 2014 #166

No, it doesn't mean that at all. cbayer May 2014 #169

No, I don't expect anyone to have to hide their religion passiveporcupine May 2014 #172

I would venture that you have some strong moral imperatives that would guide you cbayer May 2014 #175

I agree we have much in common passiveporcupine May 2014 #176

Exactly. cbayer May 2014 #180

I suspect the religion group would rather not have me here passiveporcupine May 2014 #187

The religion group is open to believers and non believers and is not a safe haven forum. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #192

Thank you passiveporcupine May 2014 #195

I think the religion group would welcome you. cbayer May 2014 #198

Your allways welcome here my friend. hrmjustin May 2014 #200

I've seen some post in support of them Lordquinton May 2014 #134

Lol, mass bannings for differences of opinion? cbayer May 2014 #143

No, bannings for anti-progressive comments. trotsky May 2014 #177

How dare you criticize skepticscott May 2014 #188

You might start by looking at your feet. They're not planted where you think. rug May 2014 #50

Am I? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #54

Ok then: Lordquinton May 2014 #138

Share with me who "us" is. rug May 2014 #154

A strawman Lordquinton May 2014 #352

You haven't answered the question. rug May 2014 #358

You didn't answer the question either Lordquinton May 2014 #363

Sorry, dialogue from Pee Wee's Big Adventure holds no interest for me. rug May 2014 #369

Share with us your stance on Abortion and Women as priests. Lordquinton May 2014 #371

Sure, as soon as you tell me who "us" is. rug May 2014 #373

Then stop acting like a child and answer the straight forward question. Lordquinton May 2014 #374

Don't tell me what to do. You answer the question. Who's your "us"? rug May 2014 #375

You answer the question. What is your stance on Abortion and Women as priests? Lordquinton May 2014 #376

You answer the question. Who's the "us" you're invoking? rug May 2014 #380

How to find common ground with fundamentalists. cheyanne May 2014 #189

How to find common ground with fundamentalists. cheyanne May 2014 #190

This isn't a safe haven Goblinmonger May 2014 #7

It isn't a place for sociopathic behavior either. rug May 2014 #51

I can't wait to see the same crowd that INSISTED on associating my common use of 'delusion' AtheistCrusader May 2014 #141

There is a test. rug May 2014 #153

I see said 'how dare you suggest mental health disorder' crew showed up AtheistCrusader May 2014 #226

Quote mining a safe haven. rug May 2014 #296

You might ALSO take that up with the feigned outrage mental health/delusion comparison crew. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #298

I don't have a problem with it all. Your compadres however go apoplectic at the thought. rug May 2014 #300

Well, attempting to diagnose someone with a mental health issue in the context of an argument AtheistCrusader May 2014 #304

interesting article and blog arely staircase May 2014 #41

Thanks. That is a great link. cbayer May 2014 #46

This is a very thoughtful Dorian Gray May 2014 #231

the only thing I will say about that AA post arely staircase May 2014 #238

Backhanded compliments have a way of pissing people off. trotsky May 2014 #254

I haven't attacked anyone arely staircase May 2014 #264

You might not think you did. trotsky May 2014 #268

please alert on all threads were I have insulted anyone arely staircase May 2014 #270

it was alerted on and locked as a violation of the AA SOP. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #315

so what are still complaining about? nt arely staircase May 2014 #321

You have the interfaith forum that you wanted for just that purpose. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #61

Poll options too simplistic for a meaningful response. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #4

good point. I will make a change nt arely staircase May 2014 #11

To avoid being condescending and disingenuous. Iggo May 2014 #6

This is a good point. Do you think there is a way for people to help each other do that? cbayer May 2014 #16

Not if they insist, and then double-down when they get booted from a safe haven. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #20

Not going there. cbayer May 2014 #25

It may not have been. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #27

How to find common ground cheyanne May 2014 #29

in my community the common ground is generally found arely staircase May 2014 #30

Yes, this is common ground for atheists as well as all religions. cheyanne May 2014 #56

I can assure mine infringe on nobody but mine are infringed upon. arely staircase May 2014 #57

I like what you are saying here up to a point, but it disregards non-believers. cbayer May 2014 #32

Thank you for that. Goblinmonger May 2014 #34

I'm sorry I didn't include non-believers cheyanne May 2014 #52

Reading it in the context of your own position regarding religion, it makes more sense. cbayer May 2014 #53

Why do people need to be sorted into "believers" and "disbelievers" when working together djean111 May 2014 #35

they shouldn't be arely staircase May 2014 #36

Your OP is based specifically on making that distinction skepticscott May 2014 #59

because it is the most glaring distinction in DU religion arely staircase May 2014 #60

Your OP doesn't restrict the consideration to DU religion skepticscott May 2014 #67

please accept apologies arely staircase May 2014 #71

You were skepticscott May 2014 #87

You assume honest motives. rug May 2014 #42

ROFL AtheistCrusader May 2014 #44

The funniest things are based on truth. rug May 2014 #47

Assuming honest motives is a prerequisite for any cheyanne May 2014 #55

The most important common ground skepticscott May 2014 #58

Now, that's just silly. Obviously you are referring to the existence or... stone space May 2014 #73

Obviously? Spare me skepticscott May 2014 #85

No Scott, we don't let them "slide". We just don't give a fuck. Starboard Tack May 2014 #307

The reality of religious beliefs are not important for working toward common goals. cheyanne May 2014 #181

So, in saying this, Dorian Gray May 2014 #232

Another person who thinks they know what's "obvious" skepticscott May 2014 #233

Thanks for the clarification Dorian Gray May 2014 #235

Well, for starts, try not posting a lot of "god-bless" nonsense in the A&A safehaven. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #62

And by not calling the family members of atheists dishonest in the A&A room. stone space May 2014 #79

If you're going to characterize the people in A&A skepticscott May 2014 #84

My wife is not dishonest. Such accusations are based on nothing but ignorance and stereotypes. stone space May 2014 #88

It's not an attempt "to characterize the people in A&A". rug May 2014 #105

Oh dear! Are they still doing that shit? Sad. Starboard Tack May 2014 #86

It appears so. And they call it a safe haven. There's nothing safe about it. (nt) stone space May 2014 #89

DU calls it a safe haven. Goblinmonger May 2014 #107

A safe haven is not a place to bash DUers or their partners. rug May 2014 #109

I agree. hrmjustin May 2014 #119

It is a revealing one isn't it? rug May 2014 #120

I think that was just mean spirited. hrmjustin May 2014 #122

whether they are or not, they can't stop posting about me. rug May 2014 #124

Indeed! I think some here need to look at themselves before judging others. hrmjustin May 2014 #125

You're a good man, Justin, and a thoughtful one. rug May 2014 #126

As are you my friend! hrmjustin May 2014 #127

Why, thank you! onager May 2014 #218

Well, let's just have a look at that post you're so fond of. rug May 2014 #299

Yep, hardly through the gates and he's already being skinned alive. Starboard Tack May 2014 #117

Few things Goblinmonger May 2014 #121

What people are you afraid he is going to set off? Starboard Tack May 2014 #223

I don't have an axe to grind with liberal progressive people of faith LostOne4Ever May 2014 #229

As you are hopefully aware Goblinmonger May 2014 #244

Let me take this one step at a time GM Starboard Tack May 2014 #265

"The reason you were banned." Rob H. May 2014 #251

Yes. I would agree Goblinmonger May 2014 #252

Gee, and just a couple of days ago there were complaints about the Inquisition. rug May 2014 #123

How dare he have an opinion! hrmjustin May 2014 #128

He was not blocked for that LostOne4Ever May 2014 #230

No I understand. I was just fooling around. hrmjustin May 2014 #240

They do make it a habit. That's the second wife they've attacked in there, isn't it? rug May 2014 #103

I "called out" a family member of yours? Warren Stupidity May 2014 #90

Tolerance PumpkinAle May 2014 #63

hey, we liberal christians are told we are as hell bound as any atheist by fundamentalists nt arely staircase May 2014 #65

Wat exactly riles you? How does it affect your tolerance? Starboard Tack May 2014 #91

Ghandi said it first........... PumpkinAle May 2014 #178

This trope is so goddamned tiring Act_of_Reparation May 2014 #64

Well, that's an interesting point. cbayer May 2014 #66

My opinion is that this doesn't have to be a "wedge issue" at all. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #197

Should people keep their sexuality to themselves? cbayer May 2014 #203

I am not sure that we can do something about it though. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #207

I am not convinced that religiosity is necessarily a choice, at least not for everyone. cbayer May 2014 #239

To choose or not to choose. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #336

You may be right and you may be wrong. cbayer May 2014 #339

*slow approving clap* n/t Rainforestgoddess May 2014 #74

Holy shit. trotsky May 2014 #77

. Iggo May 2014 #80

Ignore Prosperity Gospel Jesus. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #82

never was a big fan of calvin, or knox arely staircase May 2014 #92

This case is closed. Congratulations Act_of_Reparation, mr blur May 2014 #114

oh, mr blur. You are not the arbiter of this case and I doubt very much cbayer May 2014 #115

Do you have any response to the questions I presented to him in my responding post? AlbertCat May 2014 #130

Well, that's certainly your opinion. cbayer May 2014 #139

None of the Above. The most important aspect is RESPECT. n/t TygrBright May 2014 #83

Hmmm.. Fix The Stupid May 2014 #93

I know what you mean. cbayer May 2014 #94

... Fix The Stupid May 2014 #96

Because it is just ridicule and mocking, the tools which you say are the best available to you. cbayer May 2014 #99

Again..why? Fix The Stupid May 2014 #104

Because it is lame. cbayer May 2014 #110

So if Odin is "universally" held to be made up skepticscott May 2014 #112

Lol, no, they're both the same, the world is flat and unshadowed. rug May 2014 #113

Lol, no, they're both the same, AlbertCat May 2014 #160

That is very nearly the most ignorant statement I've read on theism. rug May 2014 #163

That is very nearly the most ignorant statement I've read on theism. View profile AlbertCat May 2014 #171

"Baloney! It is not." I was unpersuaded until you used the exclamation point. rug May 2014 #194

Try it this time without mentioning the Easter Bunny. AlbertCat May 2014 #216

I didn't know the Easter Bunny had prehistoric origins. rug May 2014 #302

Yes, you keep repeating that belief in Santa Claus or unicorns skepticscott May 2014 #97

Oh, silly it's because... Goblinmonger May 2014 #108

I can respect people's humanity, their value as people, the good things they do... TygrBright May 2014 #135

Some here are unfortunately are not going to give it. hrmjustin May 2014 #95

To which you might have added - "not publishing push polls to get the result I want" intaglio May 2014 #98

I agree that this is a push poll, but fail to see how it is an insult to atheists. cbayer May 2014 #100

Because it attempts to isolate those atheists who found arely's post in AandA foolish intaglio May 2014 #102

While I can see what you are saying, I'm not going to get into that debate. cbayer May 2014 #106

Understandable n/t intaglio May 2014 #111

So you choose to ignore the bad aspects Lordquinton May 2014 #308

I don't choose to ignore bad aspects and and drum up the good. cbayer May 2014 #314

Ifind it hard to accept your apolagy Lordquinton May 2014 #355

Are you kidding? cbayer May 2014 #360

I'm sick of hearing about how Jesus is the magic answer to every problem in life. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #129

Well, if your belief in facts and reason and causation are so strong, why do you have cbayer May 2014 #148

Because rationalists are being told to shut up by many Christians. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #149

love cosmos arely staircase May 2014 #156

Does that happen here? cbayer May 2014 #158

This poll seems to have an unspoken backstory. Thus any participation would be read according to a Bluenorthwest May 2014 #140

I just learn to stay away Politicalboi May 2014 #151

Air hockey shenmue May 2014 #152

How about pinball? cbayer May 2014 #186

Interesting results. hrmjustin May 2014 #204

I would love to see the hosts of this group put their heads together about the SOP. cbayer May 2014 #206

I wish but it won't happen. hrmjustin May 2014 #209

And some here say they want unity skepticscott May 2014 #332

You were a host here skepticscott May 2014 #217

you got your interfaith forum. You hardly use it. It is a snore fest. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #219

We have debates in the interfaith room. hrmjustin May 2014 #221

No, you have a few meta discussions skepticscott May 2014 #333

My position on that is that it is both unrealistic and unnecessary Act_of_Reparation May 2014 #248

I am not advocating for a decrease in diversity at all. cbayer May 2014 #250

THIS ISN'T A SAFE HAVEN Goblinmonger May 2014 #261

No need to shout. hrmjustin May 2014 #273

She's thought out loud about it several times Goblinmonger May 2014 #274

She is well aware of that. And she is allowed to have thoughts. hrmjustin May 2014 #276

So am I. Goblinmonger May 2014 #278

and she gave her opinion. hrmjustin May 2014 #283

No, you want an SOP that you hope will skepticscott May 2014 #334

So if Skepticscott says there is no difference between Jesus and any other god, what reasons do you Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #213

Dawkins accepts the likelihood of a historical Jesus arely staircase May 2014 #282

You are kind of overselling that Goblinmonger May 2014 #290

thanks for making my point nt arely staircase May 2014 #294

Dawkins basically says Goblinmonger May 2014 #309

"historical Jesus portrayed in the Bible." arely staircase May 2014 #310

There is no other version of Jesus Goblinmonger May 2014 #313

flavius josephus, the jewish historian recorded the death of jesus brother james arely staircase May 2014 #320

You know that the Josephus documents were tampered with Goblinmonger May 2014 #322

yes and historians are pretty much in agreement about which parts arely staircase May 2014 #323

would the non-existence of the biblical jesus change your belief? Warren Stupidity May 2014 #317

Push Poll Hissyspit May 2014 #227

For instance, we need to find common ground with Boko Haram enki23 May 2014 #316

hush now, not *those* believers. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #318

+100 skepticscott May 2014 #367

That rant was either sarcasm or moving the goalposts. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #319

I am pretty sure some people spend more time worrying about other peoples' lives then do others. Tikki May 2014 #328

for me the comments that make me so angry is when.... chillfactor May 2014 #353

RESPECT. nt darkangel218 May 2014 #356

I think mutual respect has to come first Prophet 451 May 2014 #378

Exactly. hrmjustin May 2014 #382

Maybe people tell you faith is "unscientific" because so many people who aren't you claim it is. enki23 May 2014 #386

Few things Prophet 451 May 2014 #388