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mathematic

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23. From the research that was used to unban him
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:41 AM
Aug 2012

"First, we found that the mean gross metabolic cost of transport of our amputee sprint subject (174.9 ml O(2)*kg(-1)*km(-1); speeds: 2.5-4.1 m/s) was only 3.8% lower than mean values for intact-limb elite distance runners and 6.7% lower than for subelite distance runners but 17% lower than for intact-limb 400-m specialists [210.6 (SD 13.2) ml O(2)*kg(-1)*km(-1)]."

"We conclude that running on modern, lower-limb sprinting prostheses appears to be physiologically similar but mechanically different from running with intact limbs."

Right there in the abstract. Comparing the gross metabolic cost of transport of Pistorius to distance runners make about as much sense as comparing the bicep strength of Pistorius to distance runners. The athletes are completely different Distance runners are small, thin, and have muscles predisposed to endurance. Sprinters are the complete opposite. They train completely different systems too. Distance training improves gross metabolic cost of transport, sprint training does not.

This research was published AFTER the CAS hearing. Why can't the IAAF use this? I'm no lawyer but this was a research conducted for "the defense". I don't think the IAAF can use it to re-raise the issue. Pistorius won't be submitting to any further IAAF testing.

The official CAS decision was that Pistorius did not have a significant physiological advantage. It did not address the mechanical advantage of the blades. The research used to support this claim clearly indicate Pistorius has a physiological advantage when he is compared only to other sprinters. So the IAAF research and the Wyland research show a physiological advantage compared to other sprinters. Therefore the facts clearly show that the decision was wrong.

Pistorius' disadvantage at the start can be estimated: he runs a 10.91 100m. So the disadvantage is around .6s. A lot of people ask something like "If they're such an advantage then why aren't there more double amputees running these times?" (The blade advantage does not extend to single amputees, since their blade limb is constrained by their natural limb). There just aren't many double amputees out there. Much less double amputees that have the talent to run 7 seconds off of Olympic finals 400m time. That's already much much faster than the average person.

he qualified, right? zbdent Aug 2012 #1
He is in the semis tomorrow. But... El Supremo Aug 2012 #2
so, with the "unfair advantage" ... he didn't meet the standards in 2008, like everybody else did .. zbdent Aug 2012 #3
It seems the people "The Court of Arbitration" best qualified for these type of decisions JonLP24 Aug 2012 #5
You are way too "accepting". El Supremo Aug 2012 #6
JonLP24 has a point though... Auggie Aug 2012 #7
I think it is a big controversy. El Supremo Aug 2012 #8
sprinters from across the globe are lining up to have their legs removed in order to replace them.. frylock Aug 2012 #34
I'm not sure what you're referring to JonLP24 Aug 2012 #10
Clueless El Supremo Aug 2012 #11
Am I any more clueless than you? JonLP24 Aug 2012 #12
Ooh! I got some emotion from you! El Supremo Aug 2012 #13
I found some links that detail their findings JonLP24 Aug 2012 #14
As Upton (ugh!) said, where do you draw the line? El Supremo Aug 2012 #15
Well they said JonLP24 Aug 2012 #16
Yes, the CAS decision was flawed with respect to the facts. mathematic Aug 2012 #20
I read the PDF JonLP24 Aug 2012 #22
From the research that was used to unban him mathematic Aug 2012 #23
Thanks for the info JonLP24 Aug 2012 #26
The researchers are biased and posing the wrong comparison. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #28
If that should be the question JonLP24 Aug 2012 #29
Physically impossible? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #31
I imagine it would be like using stilts JonLP24 Aug 2012 #32
Probably not.. Upton Aug 2012 #4
Vehicles aren't prosthetics, and I strongly doubt he considers himself "disabled." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #18
I think situations such as this bear review on a case by case basis. bluedigger Aug 2012 #9
Several years of arguments in the track world about it point to "yes." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #17
Of course he should. madinmaryland Aug 2012 #19
That ain't an able body? Iggo Aug 2012 #21
If running on blades is physically easier than running on legs rocktivity Aug 2012 #24
"The able-bodied Olympics"? KamaAina Aug 2012 #25
What's next an iron fisted boxer? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #27
He may have an advantage, but he is still damn fast. chelsea0011 Aug 2012 #30
prosthetics are different -KittyKat- Aug 2012 #33
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