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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
22. I read the PDF
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:10 AM
Aug 2012

but now I'm waiting forever it to load to look into it again so I'll go from memory. I remember reading about the breathing, I'll have to wait for it to load to see specifically who he was measured against according to the report. I remember it had to be an overall net advantage, meaning disadvantages & advantages. The IAAF study failed to consider the disadvantages he has such as starting off the block. Basically the IAAF failed to prove there was an overall net advantage. I'll look into Wyland claims but at the conclusion of the report it made clear two things, that this decision only applied to him and any further advances can be challenged. #2, they can at anytime w/ scientific evidence prove he has an advantage so if Wyland made that claim why doesn't the IAAF take that claim. Again, it was up to IAAF to provide the proof he was at an overall advantage. Also they pointed out though this doesn't have hardly any scientific meaning is these blades have been around for over a decade and he isn't the only runner that uses them but he is the only one that was ever close to being Olympic qualified. Guessing, if it was significant I imagine it would be more commonplace.

To be clear on what I said regarding facts, I will disagree w/ official decisions when I'm aware of the facts that clearly show they're wrong. That doesn't imply I'm always interested in facts in any decision. When it comes to this, I don't care very much what it is the right decision(they're not curing cancer here). It strikes me as bizarre he is possibly at a competitive advantage for the able-bodied Olympics but perfectly qualified for the Paralympics. That said, I think I've been one of the very few in this thread that actually looked into as many facts into the case(also provided links) and willing to look for more - I haven't changed my mind only because this frustrating PDF is not loading (showing up "file is damaged and can't be repaired&quot and that is your summary of events. I have no reason to doubt you but I need to familiarize myself more w/ the facts to come to your conclusions. If there is no one that says he isn't at an advantage that is familiar w/ the facts I have no choice to change my mind. If not, I have to independently verify for my own conclusions.

he qualified, right? zbdent Aug 2012 #1
He is in the semis tomorrow. But... El Supremo Aug 2012 #2
so, with the "unfair advantage" ... he didn't meet the standards in 2008, like everybody else did .. zbdent Aug 2012 #3
It seems the people "The Court of Arbitration" best qualified for these type of decisions JonLP24 Aug 2012 #5
You are way too "accepting". El Supremo Aug 2012 #6
JonLP24 has a point though... Auggie Aug 2012 #7
I think it is a big controversy. El Supremo Aug 2012 #8
sprinters from across the globe are lining up to have their legs removed in order to replace them.. frylock Aug 2012 #34
I'm not sure what you're referring to JonLP24 Aug 2012 #10
Clueless El Supremo Aug 2012 #11
Am I any more clueless than you? JonLP24 Aug 2012 #12
Ooh! I got some emotion from you! El Supremo Aug 2012 #13
I found some links that detail their findings JonLP24 Aug 2012 #14
As Upton (ugh!) said, where do you draw the line? El Supremo Aug 2012 #15
Well they said JonLP24 Aug 2012 #16
Yes, the CAS decision was flawed with respect to the facts. mathematic Aug 2012 #20
I read the PDF JonLP24 Aug 2012 #22
From the research that was used to unban him mathematic Aug 2012 #23
Thanks for the info JonLP24 Aug 2012 #26
The researchers are biased and posing the wrong comparison. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #28
If that should be the question JonLP24 Aug 2012 #29
Physically impossible? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #31
I imagine it would be like using stilts JonLP24 Aug 2012 #32
Probably not.. Upton Aug 2012 #4
Vehicles aren't prosthetics, and I strongly doubt he considers himself "disabled." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #18
I think situations such as this bear review on a case by case basis. bluedigger Aug 2012 #9
Several years of arguments in the track world about it point to "yes." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #17
Of course he should. madinmaryland Aug 2012 #19
That ain't an able body? Iggo Aug 2012 #21
If running on blades is physically easier than running on legs rocktivity Aug 2012 #24
"The able-bodied Olympics"? KamaAina Aug 2012 #25
What's next an iron fisted boxer? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #27
He may have an advantage, but he is still damn fast. chelsea0011 Aug 2012 #30
prosthetics are different -KittyKat- Aug 2012 #33
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