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JHan

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2. oh the ID politics spiel told us all we needed to know.

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Mon May 1, 2017, 08:01 PM

May 2017

the absurd economic vs social false dichotomy also tells us all we need to know.

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The far left is still out of touch with black voters. [View all] pnwmom May 2017 OP

Generalizations. David__77 May 2017 #1

Mc Carthyite? Well we are talking about people demonizing capitalism in ALL it's forms... bettyellen May 2017 #9

Which groups and people are these? David__77 May 2017 #10

ones who claim no difference if trump or hillary is president or that trump would be better JI7 May 2017 #11

I suppose there are some of those. David__77 May 2017 #14

The ones I'm talking about are not concerned with actual socialism and equality JI7 May 2017 #16

The groups you mention aren't binary-thinking ideologues. emulatorloo May 2017 #21

Exactly, because I can assure you I am far left, much further left than almost ANYONE here Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #61

Idiots like Susan Sarandon, Glen Greenwald and fringe lefties - fake ones that bettyellen May 2017 #12

Jane Fonda too? David__77 May 2017 #19

Did you miss the names of journalists and pundits for some reason? bettyellen May 2017 #20

I'm not familiar with Greenwald. David__77 May 2017 #23

Greenwald is a major figure for you not to be aware of. Interesting. pnwmom May 2017 #24

I have heard of them. David__77 May 2017 #25

You're not from the US then, right? n/t pnwmom May 2017 #28

I'm from the US. David__77 May 2017 #30

You didn't know about Greenwald and you seem vague about Snowden and Stein. pnwmom May 2017 #32

Ok. David__77 May 2017 #34

I think a lot of people repeated the crap he wrote vaguely "knowing" it was being shared bettyellen May 2017 #35

I think there's definitely an "anti-US" faction. David__77 May 2017 #36

I think what we saw was a loose group of people - many who were nothing more than HRC haters.... bettyellen May 2017 #37

Why would you bring up Fonda's ancient activism now, LOL? bettyellen May 2017 #26

It was misplaced. David__77 May 2017 #29

Pls, quit while you're behind. brush May 2017 #57

So silly! emulatorloo May 2017 #22

Jane Fonda supported Hillary. RandySF May 2017 #39

After this, therefore because of this? LanternWaste May 2017 #65

One individual JustAnotherGen May 2017 #48

oh the ID politics spiel told us all we needed to know. JHan May 2017 #2

The far left are more similar to the far right than they are to the vast majority of Dems. Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #3

Except if you look at the polls of where Americans stand on the issues .... Zen Democrat May 2017 #64

MMMMMM-divisive issue for no real reason.... Boxerfan May 2017 #4

People post articles all the time here.... get over it. bettyellen May 2017 #7

Attacking Obama for something all the modern Presidents have done is certainly divisive. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #8

Posting news stories and editorials is what fuels DU n/t emulatorloo May 2017 #17

That's quite the creative and unsupported allegation. LanternWaste May 2017 #66

And they love worship $FDR$ without a smidge of thought. bettyellen May 2017 #5

He inherited his fortune so of course that's more deserving than someone who has to work for it. pnwmom May 2017 #13

I've started to think that hard work means nothing to some people.... bettyellen May 2017 #18

+1 And the bonafides should add up to something fairly significant before elected POTUS. fleabiscuit May 2017 #45

Yes! When I hear people float names like Zuckerberg or Cuban for fucks sake... bettyellen May 2017 #46

So true. Inherited wealth is often worshipped on the far left delisen Jun 2017 #77

FDR in many ways WAS an extremist - because extreme measures were required in 1933. Zen Democrat May 2017 #33

That's a great example of the fractious thinking I simply cannot wrap my brain around. LanternWaste May 2017 #67

yup. another example is michael moore JI7 May 2017 #6

A few years ago in his divorce proceeding his wealth came out -- more than $50 million then. pnwmom May 2017 #15

I'm a leftie, and confused over the criticism of Obama being well-paid for speeches. Zen Democrat May 2017 #27

Exactly. In a world where Hilary Duff can command $500 K for a speech, pnwmom May 2017 #31

thanks, I was beginning to worry about what a leftie is mdbl May 2017 #52

Bernie is the only figure on the left I've seen criticize Obama for this. RandySF May 2017 #38

elizabeth warren has also and the usual young turks and similar types JI7 May 2017 #41

MAkes sense given I believe Bernie has an agenda that if known would shock the hell Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF May 2017 #40

I see no reason to criticise Obama WellDarn May 2017 #42

Another divide and conquer post kimbutgar May 2017 #43

Don't you think criticizing Obama needlessly is divide and conquer? n/t pnwmom May 2017 #44

Yep and I it's not divide and conquer JustAnotherGen May 2017 #49

So Trump Voters who voted for an openly racist , bigoted piece of shit are not Racists JI7 May 2017 #47

Yep JustAnotherGen May 2017 #50

My thoughts as well nt Quayblue May 2017 #68

+ a billion Number23 May 2017 #70

+1 So you noticed that ? lunasun Jun 2017 #78

This right here JustAnotherGen May 2017 #51

He not only withstood those attacks, he withstood them with GRACE pnwmom May 2017 #53

Well said. I especially like: "Ain't no takesy backsey on that." brush May 2017 #58

OMG do they hate you, and even me for not hating you. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #63

I'm pretty damned far left -- IndianaDave May 2017 #54

+1000. nt pnwmom May 2017 #55

YES! brush May 2017 #59

Trump is in the White House lapucelle May 2017 #56

The far left is also out of touch with other groups in the base Gothmog May 2017 #60

The far left and the far right are cut from the same cloth. They both hate any improvements to Number23 May 2017 #69

Boom! JustAnotherGen May 2017 #71

Ah the globalization canard, yes! I've been reading a Reddit group called NeoLiberals and it's bettyellen Jun 2017 #72

I want to be in a time in which *everyone* - regardless of race, gender, education, or anything else YoungDemCA Jun 2017 #73

I may have spoken a bit harshly but it is hard not to see the similarities between the two groups Number23 Jun 2017 #75

the truth of the matter is: heaven05 Jun 2017 #74

Dems are a bunch of different groups. The right is unified behind tax cuts for the rich. sharedvalues Jun 2017 #76

The attack's complaint that Obama was held to a Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #79