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JHan

(10,173 posts)
86. Thanks for sharing your experience. I've been reading articles on Redneck Revolt:
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:31 PM
Dec 2016

and I'll share some of it with you - there are many articles on the way the white elite have divided the poor.

Immediately after the election, right wingers - and unfortunately some liberals - conflated these divide and rule tactics with the brand of "identity politics" practiced by liberals. A very common RW attack, but Identity politics , or addressing the particular needs of groups, has often arisen in response to the machinations of Rich White Men,

It is all part of the American Story:

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Up until the 1680’s little distinction was made in the status of Blacks and English and other Europeans held in involuntary servitude. Contrary to common belief, the status of Blacks in the first seventy years of the Virginia colony was not that of racial, lifelong, hereditary slavery, and the majority of the whites who came were not "free”. Black and white servants intermarried, escaped together, and rebelled together.

There were a series of servile rebellions that threatened the plantation system in the period preceding the transition to racially designated chattel slavery and white supremacy. In 1661 Black and Irish servants joined in an insurrectionary plot in Bermuda. In 1663, in Virginia, there was an insurrection for the common freedom of Blacks, whites and Indian servants. In the next 20 years, there were no fewer than ten popular and servile revolts and plots in Virginia. Also many Black and white servants successfully escaped (to Indian territories) and established free societies.

The 20 year period of servile rebellions made the issue of social control urgent for the plantation owners, at the same time as they economically needed to move to a system of perpetual slavery. The purpose of creating a basic White/Black division was in order to have one section of labor police and control the other. As Allen says, “The non-slavery of white labor was the indispensable condition for the slavery of black labor”.

A series of laws were passed and practices imposed that forged a qualitative distinction between white and Black labor. In 1661 a Virginia law imposed twice the penalty time for escaped English bond-servants who ran away in the company of an African life-time bond-servant. Heavy penalties were imposed on white women servants who bore children fathered by Africans. One of the very first white slave privileges was the exemption of white servant women from work in the fields and the requirements through taxes to force Black children to go to work at twelve, while white servant children were excused until they were fourteen. In 1680, Negroes were forbidden to carry arms, defensive or offensive. At the same time, it was made legal to kill a Negro fugitive bond-servant who resisted recapture.

What followed 1680 was a 25 year period of laws that systematically drew the color line as the limit on various economic, social, and political rights. By 1705, “the distinction between white servants and Black slavery were fixed: Black slaves were to be held in life long hereditary slavery and whites for five years, with many rights and protections afforded to them by law.”

We can infer from these series of laws that white laborers were not “innately racist” before the material and social distinctions were drawn. This is evidenced by the rulers’ need to impose very harsh penalties against white servants who escaped with Blacks or who bore them children. As historian Philip Bruce observed of this period, many white servants “...had only recently arrived from England, and were therefore comparatively free from... race prejudice.”

The white bond-servants now could achieve freedom after 5 years service: the white women and children, at least, were freed from the most arduous labor. The white bond servant, once freed, had the prospect of the right to vote and to own land (at the Indians’ expense).

These privileges did not come from the kindness of the planters’ hearts nor from some form of racial solidarity. (Scottish coal miners were held in slavery in the same period of time.) Quite simply, the poor whites were needed and used as a force to suppress the main labor force: the African chattel slaves. The poor white men constituted the rank and file of the militias and later (beginning in 1727) the slave patrols. They were given added benefits, such as tax exemptions to do so. By 1705, after Blacks had been stripped of the legal right to self-defense, the white bond servant was given a musket upon completion of servitude. There was such a clear and conscious strategy that by 1698 there were even “deficiency laws” that required the plantation owners to maintain a certain ratio of white to African servants. The English Parliament, in 1717, passed a law making transportation to bond-servitude in the plantation colonies a legal punishment for crime. Another example of this conscious design is revealed in the Council of Trade and Plantation report to the King in 1721 saying that in South Carolina “Black slaves have lately attempted and were very nearly succeeding in a new revolution – and therefore, it may be necessary to propose some new law for encouraging the entertainment of more white servants in the future."


Worth noting is that in places like Brazil, the opposite was the case - among the poorer classes there's more unity among whites and blacks , but the further up the social ladder you go, the more segregated the society becomes.

When people say "Slavery happened so long ago get over it" , they're really ignoring how the transatlantic slave trade and the system of slavery made up the bedrock of our economic system where Rich White Men enjoy privilege - and because of that privilege, disadvantaged groups seek "whiteness" or acceptance, and become tools to implement the same divisiveness among communities - for profit.

The failure of resentful whites to recognize the con in Donald's rhetoric will hurt them because he is yet another Rich White Man who doesn't care about them and will exploit the conditions that made them resentful- indeed he will continue to feed on their resentment, their resentment gives him power.

http://www.redneckrevolt.org/single-post/2016/07/24/LOOKING-AT-THE-WHITE-WORKING-CLASS-HISTORICALLY

It isn't just you MFM008 Dec 2016 #1
Agreed! Raster Dec 2016 #65
Exactly. Merlot Dec 2016 #79
I agree with you Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #2
The thing is.. JHan Dec 2016 #26
spot on mercuryblues Dec 2016 #34
We are in agreement on this Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #42
ITA JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #3
I feel ya... mrsv Dec 2016 #4
not just you Afromania Dec 2016 #5
They better get used to it JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #8
This is the serious problem we face. The republican party is about to Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #56
Their bubble is practically flawless. kjones Dec 2016 #69
Not you alone. plimsoll Dec 2016 #35
howdy Afromania Dec 2016 #36
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've been reading articles on Redneck Revolt: JHan Dec 2016 #86
Indeed.... nil desperandum Dec 2016 #6
We hear any version of this: JHan Dec 2016 #20
That language always pisses me off nil desperandum Dec 2016 #24
When I hear that 'real Americans,' I could spit. pangaia Dec 2016 #41
I've read your post 5 times.. JHan Dec 2016 #73
What did I say? My god if I could remember, I would go on tour !! pangaia Dec 2016 #74
I enjoyed that! and every word you said was absolutely right. JHan Dec 2016 #75
Great! Thanks. pangaia Dec 2016 #76
I think it's complete bullshit and I'm white. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #78
It's not just you. Nay Dec 2016 #7
I fully agree. we can do it Dec 2016 #9
Spot on. DK504 Dec 2016 #39
I AM WITH YOU ON THIS... 110% K&R secondwind Dec 2016 #10
Totally agree. ananda Dec 2016 #11
Trump Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #12
aye Afromania Dec 2016 #13
It won't matter. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #51
Yes. He's shameless with it, and he gets away with it, it's all a joke.. JHan Dec 2016 #17
Exactly BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #14
Yep. JHan Dec 2016 #18
Very well stated. Paladin Dec 2016 #15
Some have, but it's not highlighted much in Cable News Media JHan Dec 2016 #19
Yes! Lulu KC Dec 2016 #16
Ta-Nehisi Coates hit it on the nail: JHan Dec 2016 #21
It's fitting that the King of Entitlement would surf to power on those grievances... kjones Dec 2016 #70
I've had to bite my tongue about that.. JHan Dec 2016 #71
Understanding all voters and their concerns is a key to winning elections Martin Eden Dec 2016 #22
Thanks Martin.. JHan Dec 2016 #31
How can voters be held accountable for their own myopia and foolishness? Martin Eden Dec 2016 #46
Voters suffer the consequences through collective inaction.. JHan Dec 2016 #52
We still keep hearing the assertion about former Obama voters voting for Trump BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #43
Exactly, this was the first year without the Voting Rights Act in place.. JHan Dec 2016 #44
I would not be surprised if some of those insisting on that narrative BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #47
Definitely. JHan Dec 2016 #53
Regarding Obama voters switching to Trump Martin Eden Dec 2016 #49
"Democratic policy agenda and message should be loud and clear" BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #50
Not just you. AirmensMom Dec 2016 #23
It's not just you, and it's not just POC. eppur_se_muova Dec 2016 #25
well said... JHan Dec 2016 #28
It's a very peculiar nostalgia ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2016 #30
It's okay with me if they take it. The sooner, the better. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #38
Yep. But they can't stop demographic shift. It's going to happen when they like it or not. JHan Dec 2016 #45
This should be its own OP. Maven Dec 2016 #57
It may feel like it, but you are not alone.... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #27
Not just you... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #29
Exactly This. Mike Niendorff Dec 2016 #32
With you 100% radical noodle Dec 2016 #33
You're right.., great point nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #37
it sure does. barbtries Dec 2016 #40
I'm with you. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #48
The Social Safety Net is our upcoming battle.. JHan Dec 2016 #66
I think some of them have got to be very young Warpy Dec 2016 #54
White angst? What about white rage. rivegauche Dec 2016 #55
"I don't know what do with with this rage" handmade34 Dec 2016 #59
I hope we are not alone. rivegauche Dec 2016 #60
I think a Trump presidency will crystallize priorities for many, but the price to pay is still high. JHan Dec 2016 #64
kicked&recommended.. coco22 Dec 2016 #58
eeeee-YUP. Had someone tell me sincerely that "we could win again" if... TygrBright Dec 2016 #61
THANK YOU!!!! nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #62
It's not just you, it does stink. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #63
K & R! rogue emissary Dec 2016 #67
It is not just you. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #68
K&R n/t lordsummerisle Dec 2016 #72
Not just you. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2016 #77
I have zero sympathy for these people. liberalmuse Dec 2016 #80
The ones that really irritate me are the ones who use the term "working class" as a slam. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #81
Black people get the same treatment the Republicans gave the religious right for years. brewens Dec 2016 #82
I've seen racist Alt-Right memes with some antiquated racist slurs.. JHan Dec 2016 #85
They don't want to change gwheezie Dec 2016 #83
LOL! I'm sitting here at 18 below wondering where I'm going to be able to find the bucks for heat. raven mad Dec 2016 #84
Especially when you consider that nothing Jeremiah Wright said was all that outlandish. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #87
G is a winner there, every time.... JHan Dec 2016 #88
Most would overlook A-F or blame Democrats. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #89
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