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The Polack MSgt

(13,192 posts)
27. An awful lot of white people, men especially
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:12 AM
Jul 2016

Are trying to find a way to paint themselves as victims.

Any person hating another for no reason beyond race is bigotry, not racism. Racism, to even be considered an "ISM" must include an imbalance of power. If there is no lasting real world effect from the hostility, it is just an individual being an asshole.

If it's backed up by an imbalanced access to remediation - Say if the courts or the banking system routinely favored one side over the other, then it's racism or sexism or another "ISM"

A minority may feel hostility towards others unlike them, but if they don't have access to established power to back up their dislike, it's bigotry not racism.

Until there is a minority banking, real estate, justice system, zoning commission etc etc that white people have to submit to - it's all just weak-ass, whiny pissing and moaning.

By racists.

I dont' know why Coolest Ranger Jul 2016 #1
Or, hopefully, a more accurate description ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #2
No Coolest Ranger Jul 2016 #5
I am not sure I see the difference between a racist act verses a bigoted act. As to the first point still_one Jul 2016 #3
Bigotry is related to the individual; whereas, racism is institutional ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #6
And yet institutional bigotry exists, making that definintion insufficient. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #7
That is true, though it does not apply in terms of race/ethnicity ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #8
Thank-you, that was a great explanation still_one Jul 2016 #12
I'm so glad you understood that ... and will add ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #13
Excellent n/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #14
Okay, I get it. I'll start using the words that way. Thanks for the nudge. Nitram Jul 2016 #19
I must say that I agree, the term is over, and incorrectly, used ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #21
It is difficult to change the common meanings of words, and to persuade the public to stop... Nitram Jul 2016 #23
Well, I'll be ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #24
Might I suggest Uponthegears Jul 2016 #4
maybe people support the definitions that reinforce their own views. nt msongs Jul 2016 #9
Academics might; but, those articles rarely see the light of day because of the peer-review process. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #10
It's a reactionary viewpoint, imo. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #11
The words "racism" and "racist" are meaningless in today's American society. MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #15
It's not meaningless to it's victims. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #17
I agree, but there's a lack of sympathy FOR those victims because the word has been co-opted. MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #25
I understand that the academic community has decided that racism requires... Nitram Jul 2016 #16
You have defined the term (race-based) bigotry ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #18
We (and by we I mean white people) gollygee Jul 2016 #20
No ... It is important that others see things phrased a different way. Thanks. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #22
That always baffles me too, 1SB. lovemydog Jul 2016 #26
An awful lot of white people, men especially The Polack MSgt Jul 2016 #27
You nailed it JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #28
I take to applying the definition of a word from a linguistic approach. Glassunion Jul 2016 #29
I'll stick with the definition the academics have concluded, more accurately describes the phenomena 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #30
We are (hopefully) all looking to ending racism. Glassunion Jul 2016 #31
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