Gun Control & RKBA

clffrdjk

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26. You are wrong on all counts try again.

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:38 PM

Apr 2013

Last edited Mon Apr 15, 2013, 04:35 PM - Edit history (1)

gun shows/internet sales-- if you sell firearms as a business it does not matter how you sell them a background check must be done. If you do not sell firearms as a business you by law can not use the instant background check system.

If you as a citizen put up a gun for sale in the newspaper/online/billboard/smoke signals whatever, that purchaser must be a resident of your state. If they are not you must ship the firearm to a dealer in their state to have a background check done.

That couple of day wait may not be a big deal to you but to me it is a big deal.

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CCW national reciprocity may come out of the gun control debate in Congress [View all] hack89 Apr 2013 OP

g-d forbid! elleng Apr 2013 #1

I could support that. bluedigger Apr 2013 #2

funny you should mention that gejohnston Apr 2013 #3

There is tremendous variation in standards. bluedigger Apr 2013 #4

any standard should be shall issue gejohnston Apr 2013 #7

See! There you go! bluedigger Apr 2013 #8

I'm a prig that strives for consistancy gejohnston Apr 2013 #9

LOL! bluedigger Apr 2013 #47

if you read some of my older posts gejohnston Apr 2013 #48

You must have lived in a cave for a few decades. bluedigger Apr 2013 #49

I'm not a sports fan gejohnston Apr 2013 #50

based on your posts at DU, i suspect if the word 'gun' isn't involved, you have no interest at all CreekDog Apr 2013 #91

I read other stuff gejohnston Apr 2013 #92

i have interest in liberal Democratic politics. Do you? CreekDog Apr 2013 #93

if one were logically consistant, gejohnston Apr 2013 #94

by your posts at DU you aren't to the left of me, you aren't even interested in any non-gun issue CreekDog Apr 2013 #95

actually I do post on other issues gejohnston Apr 2013 #96

you said you were to the left of me, as for posting on other topics: CreekDog Apr 2013 #97

check out the other two percent gejohnston Apr 2013 #98

almost all of those posts outside this group are about guns CreekDog Apr 2013 #100

they are? gejohnston Apr 2013 #102

so basically what you're saying is that 1 percent of your posts on DU are not gun related CreekDog Apr 2013 #103

closer to five gejohnston Apr 2013 #104

i post substantive things on DU all the time CreekDog Apr 2013 #105

I haven't seen them gejohnston Apr 2013 #106

because you never leave this group CreekDog Apr 2013 #107

actually I read a lot outside of the group gejohnston Apr 2013 #108

how are you going to advance your opinions on the gun debate if you lack credibility with DUers? CreekDog Apr 2013 #109

I don't think it is actually possible gejohnston Apr 2013 #110

Creekdog really misses META CokeMachine Apr 2013 #111

No, I'm not trying to get anyone to say anything CreekDog Apr 2013 #113

You know what -- I believe you. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #114

Shall-issue != no standards, ya know.. sir pball Apr 2013 #46

Sometimes the "we" over here disagree with the "we" over there. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #76

Sorry, can't agree with that. Straw Man Apr 2013 #77

I understand your point Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #78

then the limitations should be specified in the law gejohnston Apr 2013 #80

I agree with everything there except Bill Cosby being dead. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #81

best news today, my bad gejohnston Apr 2013 #82

"May issue" = profiling kudzu22 Apr 2013 #83

No, it means providing a damn good reason for wanting to carry a gun Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #84

that may be the intent but gejohnston Apr 2013 #85

well, those you mention already have degree of arbitrary authority Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #86

no they don't. gejohnston Apr 2013 #87

And when being non-white is the reason for denial hack89 Apr 2013 #88

I'm not suggesting the police decide. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #89

Because it is impossible for every other type of government official to be biased? nt hack89 Apr 2013 #90

What? Government official? Did I say something about government official? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #99

Then who will have the final say over granting concealed carry permits? hack89 Apr 2013 #101

The Commerce Clause could be used as justification ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #15

With the proven poor marksmanship of some NYC cops, I'm not even sure that NYC has qualifying AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #6

Still beats PA, at least in 2005 sir pball Apr 2013 #45

The law of unintended consequences. The phrase "Be careful what you wish for comes to mind." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #5

Isn't it interesting, people run out and get concealed license and this does not appear to be a Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #10

there already are background checks gejohnston Apr 2013 #11

I think that's why it wasn't included in the Brady Bill kudzu22 Apr 2013 #14

Then there is the gun show loop hole so though there are some back ground checks Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #22

What your referring to are private sales/transfers clffrdjk Apr 2013 #23

I am referring to the ability to go to a gun show and buy a weapon without a background check. Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #25

You are wrong on all counts try again. clffrdjk Apr 2013 #26

If i am wrong the this is happening a lot these days but perhaps you state has a different law. Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #27

trust me on this, Also it is federal law clffrdjk Apr 2013 #28

gun show loophole is a buzz word gejohnston Apr 2013 #40

I think you're confused. Straw Man Apr 2013 #12

You're making your argument based on one case of mistaken identity. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #16

It's only the first case. Straw Man Apr 2013 #19

Couldn't agree more. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #53

More guns than screwdrivers? premium Apr 2013 #54

No, of course I wasn't serious. Though it's probably close. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #56

I'll bet that there are at least double the screwdrivers as guns in this country, premium Apr 2013 #57

I have about 20 screwdrivers, 1 hammer, lots of wrenches and 2 flare pistols. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #62

Me personally, premium Apr 2013 #63

I agree, depending on the types of guns. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #65

The thing is ... Straw Man Apr 2013 #58

I doubt it goes so far as to dig through medical records to such an extent. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #59

The allegation is that the NY State Police are already doing it. Straw Man Apr 2013 #61

I agree, except for the "red herring" Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #64

Imagining. Straw Man Apr 2013 #66

So, what does that say about our society? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #67

It says we have a very violent society. Straw Man Apr 2013 #68

Once again, I agree with you. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #69

perhaps more like internal servalience state gejohnston Apr 2013 #70

You got it. I'll take the baseball bat any day. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #71

I have been living in the 18th century gejohnston Apr 2013 #72

LOL. I've always been fascinated by language and spelling. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #73

I especially like the animal vs food comparison Bazinga Apr 2013 #75

As in one inevitably leading to the other? Of course not. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #20

Most gun owners support background checks hack89 Apr 2013 #13

A CCW is a permit to carry a gun but does not attach the owner with any particular gun. rrneck Apr 2013 #17

it is paranoid thinking he n the first place but my point was to say CCW is a license Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #24

Soooo, rrneck Apr 2013 #29

you are somewhat sheltered Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #30

That wasn't even a complete sentence. rrneck Apr 2013 #31

You need some lessons in english sentence compositions. Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #32

I wouldn't get too lippy on this subject if I were you clffrdjk Apr 2013 #33

so, do you know the results of assuming Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #35

Umm clffrdjk Apr 2013 #36

Assume broken down ass u me Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #37

yea thats the joke i was referring to. clffrdjk Apr 2013 #38

I do not hold every one to only believing what I believe, its like freedom but I think there should Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #39

Are they worse than having a debate WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #74

Maybe. rrneck Apr 2013 #34

Several states require the information on the oneshooter Apr 2013 #41

Yep. rrneck Apr 2013 #42

Illinois is still "contributing" to the NRA DonP Apr 2013 #44

NY is one. Straw Man Apr 2013 #43

True thought there is an LEO exception to that ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #112

I know people who do not get a carry license just for that reason. ... spin Apr 2013 #18

Will the amendments to the Senate gun bill require 60 votes, or just 50 Pullo Apr 2013 #21

Yes, by all means lets spread the stupidity bowens43 Apr 2013 #51

What are you going to do if it becomes law and nothing bad happens? hack89 Apr 2013 #52

Are you calling Du members that own firearms "psychopaths"? oneshooter Apr 2013 #60

I would LOVE this shedevil69taz Apr 2013 #55

finally an issue that excites you CreekDog Apr 2013 #79