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Showing Original Post only (View all)ACLU opposes national gun registry [View all]
The American Civil Liberties Union said a gun bill proposed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on March 22 mandating background checks could infringe on Americans' civil liberties and privacy rights.
S 649 would mandate a universal background check for all gun sales, but the records maintained in background checks for private sales could be retained, which the ACLU says would be a violation of privacy rights.
The first concern is the bill treats records for unlicensed gun sales differently than purchases made through unlicensed sellers.
The second concern is this could be the first step toward making a national gun registry, which the ACLU would oppose for privacy reasons.
S 649 would mandate a universal background check for all gun sales, but the records maintained in background checks for private sales could be retained, which the ACLU says would be a violation of privacy rights.
The first concern is the bill treats records for unlicensed gun sales differently than purchases made through unlicensed sellers.
The second concern is this could be the first step toward making a national gun registry, which the ACLU would oppose for privacy reasons.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865577495/ACLU-concerned-about-background-check-in-gun-bill.html
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Great. If no one ever shot anyone with guns, we would not have to register them either.
jmg257
Apr 2013
#6
Great. So we have something else to charge them with when they are caught committing crimes...
jmg257
Apr 2013
#14
Then they can spend even more time in jail. Willing to take the risk, then do the time.
jmg257
Apr 2013
#22
That's understandable. The possibility of govt confiscation because of registration is a concern
jmg257
Apr 2013
#51
I don't know...how many illegal guns have PDs in Illinois removed from circulation?
jmg257
Apr 2013
#150
That's a good idea...probably happens alot. Registration offers even more crime-fighting tools,
jmg257
Apr 2013
#186
Not trying hard at all. Many fear registration due to confiscation, privacy issues, etc.
jmg257
Apr 2013
#199
More jails! Bigger jails! More jail time! Lock 'em all up! Enrich the Prison Industrial Complex!
cherokeeprogressive
Apr 2013
#91
More guns! Bigger mags! More dead bodies! Lock and Load! Enrich the gun manufacturers!
jmg257
Apr 2013
#109
Will this be foisted on LE also? Untill they are required to use it, I for one will not.
oneshooter
Apr 2013
#81
Mag capacity limits still apply. The semi-auto shotgun simply allows faster follow-up
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2013
#213
"and I doubt you will find too many in favor of either CC or OC in major urban environments. "
WinniSkipper
Apr 2013
#190
"The only guns that need to be retrofitted would be those intended for use in populated areas"
WinniSkipper
Apr 2013
#209
That's a state matter; I may object, but only have a say in the state where I live...
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#90
It is not states' "rights," but states' powers, as rights are individual, not communitarian.
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#123
They think the present standard for NIC background checks should be the standard for all checks.
hack89
Apr 2013
#7
Thanks, hack, appreciate the patience in clearing that up! I did indeed not notice that. nt
jmg257
Apr 2013
#36
So I would have to go through a FFL when my FIL gifted my MILs .22 pistol
Nuclear Unicorn
Apr 2013
#126
"I wouldn't automatically assume malice, but there are other patterns that can correlate"
rdharma
Apr 2013
#206
I've been telling people who call me asking for money for the ACLU this for almost 20 years...
slackmaster
Apr 2013
#42
Essentially calling someone a liar should require at least a modicum of proof.
Lizzie Poppet
Apr 2013
#62
Yes, proof. You are implying that either I am a regular supporter of the ACLU and falsely stating...
slackmaster
Apr 2013
#124
Virginia mountainman picked up on the nebulous definitions of 'transfer' and started a
petronius
Apr 2013
#72
That's interesting, and a bit surprising. I'd love to see it as direct policy statement
petronius
Apr 2013
#70
Oh, those right-wing, tea-bag, ALCU kooks. You know, the ones who spout the NRA talking points.
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#108
Liberals are always independent thinkers. I wouldn't expect anything less from the ACLU.
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#116
And I don't expect the righties here to support the ACLU's objections to .......
rdharma
Apr 2013
#118
This I don't understand. Sometimes we have to support things for the better good of our society.
demosincebirth
Apr 2013
#152
What's wrong with, just, common sense legislation? Maybe "common sense" is the problem
demosincebirth
Apr 2013
#203
You have a drivers liscense, you're in a data base. Driving is a privelege not a right. This is
demosincebirth
Apr 2013
#229
Thank you for posting. It kind of undercuts the claim that no one is arguing for confiscation
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#211
The thing about using the NFA as a template is that individual can't register guns
hack89
Apr 2013
#218
Use the same mechanism that was used to register them at the inception of the '34 NFA.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2013
#219
The best way to cut down on straw purchases is to crack down on dirty gun dealers.
hack89
Apr 2013
#222