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In reply to the discussion: The Global March to Jerusalem, a brave and admirable attempt to awaken the world’s conscience [View all]Shaktimaan
(5,397 posts)184. Violet...
You come along nearly a week later, and read an entire exchange where unlike me when I started responding to the original post, have the luxury of seeing how it turned out, and yr going on about it?
Actually, I responded to your post as it was written, as I read them in order. Later when I read the thread in its entirety I edited my post to indicate that it was no longer relevant. I'm not trying to achieve anything. Once I saw the thread's resolution I recanted my statements. I did leave them up because I thought they would have relevance to those who came across the thread later on, as I did. My edits were intended to indicate that my posts were unfair criticism considering the eventual outcome. I don't feel like I was taking unfair advantage.
Bigoted comments in this forum should be condemned by everyone. Unfortunately it appears that's only the case when bigoted comments are made about Jews or Israelis in yr case...
Do you honestly believe that I feel that way? That bigotry only counts when it's directed at Jews?
I happen to agree with you about bigoted comments. I did not count this as a bigoted comment on account of it's facetious intent. I actually think it is important to distinguish between true bigotry and satiric statements intended to highlight the absurdity of said bigotry. Parroting racist ideology in an attempt to fight it is obviously very different in intent than publishing bigotry to reinforce its message.
btw, the comments in the original post weren't *obnoxious*, they were *bigoted*. They were aimed at Palestinians, and they were bigoted...
You're right, they were bigoted. But they were not aimed at Palestinians...
Actually, I responded to your post as it was written, as I read them in order. Later when I read the thread in its entirety I edited my post to indicate that it was no longer relevant. I'm not trying to achieve anything. Once I saw the thread's resolution I recanted my statements. I did leave them up because I thought they would have relevance to those who came across the thread later on, as I did. My edits were intended to indicate that my posts were unfair criticism considering the eventual outcome. I don't feel like I was taking unfair advantage.
Bigoted comments in this forum should be condemned by everyone. Unfortunately it appears that's only the case when bigoted comments are made about Jews or Israelis in yr case...
Do you honestly believe that I feel that way? That bigotry only counts when it's directed at Jews?
I happen to agree with you about bigoted comments. I did not count this as a bigoted comment on account of it's facetious intent. I actually think it is important to distinguish between true bigotry and satiric statements intended to highlight the absurdity of said bigotry. Parroting racist ideology in an attempt to fight it is obviously very different in intent than publishing bigotry to reinforce its message.
btw, the comments in the original post weren't *obnoxious*, they were *bigoted*. They were aimed at Palestinians, and they were bigoted...
You're right, they were bigoted. But they were not aimed at Palestinians...
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The Global March to Jerusalem, a brave and admirable attempt to awaken the world’s conscience [View all]
Scurrilous
Mar 2012
OP
Things must be boring lately if a march has to be built up into an attack on Israel itself...
Violet_Crumble
Mar 2012
#14
Several rally participants expressed anger over the presence of Neturei Karta members, and a verbal
King_David
Mar 2012
#8
‘2-million-strong march to Jerusalem’ fizzles; anti-Zionist rabbis beaten at Jordan protest
shira
Mar 2012
#13
No, the ones who BEAT the rabbis don't represent the true spirit of the march
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#26
You assume that those results are the only possible outcome to self-determination
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#51
Civil rights are still a relevant issue. What happened in Gaza doesn't change that.
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#58
who is "we" shira? as in "How are we wrong?" and more over what is that "we" are after?
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#68
depends on your sources and what they say so no deal I do not agree to anything blindly
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#103
Lol knew said so in the first post after your 'challange' but I hardly backed down did I?
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#110
i don't say you don't care...but you care first and foremost for a govt based on race....
pelsar
Apr 2012
#79
you are actually not just calling the Palestinians modern day Nazi's your accusing them of
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#81
Stop blaming other people for what you post. YOU called Palestinians Nazis...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#94
I don't care what you think of anyone else's post. I'm talking about YOUR post...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#106
the standard in this forum is to make extreme exaggerations -just don't use the "N" word
pelsar
Apr 2012
#112
What part of what I've said aren't you understanding? Stop blaming others for that ugly post...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#115
Yr still trying to blame others for that disgusting post. Stop trying to deflect...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#119
you confusing blame with motivation, i don't blame others, i was motivated by past posts.
pelsar
Apr 2012
#121
Blame? Motivation? It's the same thing. Yr not responsible for what you posted. They made you do it.
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#122
actually there is a difference between motivation and blame...at least in my world
pelsar
Apr 2012
#124
For the record, the term"carpet-bombed"(a term I did later modify since I accepted
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#148
Why are you bringing up the lies about organ theft in association with MY post?
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#147
just a mirror? please pointing out the irony of complaining about Palestian nationalism
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#101
There's nothing that continuing the Occupation can do to abet the cause of human rights
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#84
I've proven that right-wing nationalism does NOT come first to me. So don't ever say it does again
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#86
But it comes before Palestinian civil liberties under their leadership, right? n/t
shira
Apr 2012
#87
It ended up meaning very, very little that the words "all men are created equal"
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#91
Will you please just admit that I don't WANT a right-wing nationalist state in Palestine?
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#97
please stop saying "you're stuck" and just TELL me what other option you're thinking of
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#165
I never attacked "Israelis"-I disagreed with some policies of the Israeli government, and that's
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#169
If I was concerned about upsetting the powers-that-be in the ME, I wouldn't have supported
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#99
You don't say much about Mubarak/Hamas b/c civil rights there don't matter to you
shira
Apr 2012
#149
I did support the Iranian uprising. And I don't feel that either is hasbara.
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#159
There were NO positive options that involved Israel retaining control of Gaza
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#145
You're bringing up Begin when Barak's agreement to Clinton's Initiatives were in 2000
shira
Apr 2012
#154
No, it did not. If it had, the people of Gaza would have supported that leadership
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#198
ya it started about the time the British colonial ruler decided to give the Arabs land
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#31
quote "There was no Palestinian resistance when the territories were occupied by Jordan and Egypt"
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#44
Nazi inspired? " The Syrian Social Nationalist Party" began in 1932 before the Nazi party took over
azurnoir
Mar 2012
#18