Israel/Palestine

Larkspur

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52. Archbishop Tutu and Nelson Mandela disagree with you

Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:49 AM

Jul 2014

They both labeled Israel's brutal policies towards the Palestinians as apartheid and they reminded them of South Africa's treatment of the native black population.

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Don’t Accuse Israel of Apartheid [View all] Shaktimaan Jul 2014 OP

By the standards used to justify the use of the term for Israel, dozens of modern countries WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #1

Oh in this group they will claim to know better than someone who lived there, King_David Jul 2014 #2

But it's such good propaganda, aranthus Jul 2014 #3

True. Genocide is more accurate. nt HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #4

only to those who are confused as to... Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #5

Look up what genocide is. 840high Jul 2014 #55

Okay. Here: HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #58

noun HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #80

Too late ... Israeli Jul 2014 #6

Shulamit Aloni never lived in Apartheid South Africa King_David Jul 2014 #11

Don't accuse Israel of Apartheid FarrenH Jul 2014 #7

Don't accuse - Just Boycott, Divest, and Sanction. 4now Jul 2014 #8

Whoomp, there It Is! R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #9

Where is it? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #12

Desmond Tutu: U.S. Christians must recognize Israel as apartheid stat R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #13

Wow Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #14

Asked and answered, many times FarrenH Jul 2014 #15

Before... Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #16

You're making an assumption that isn't reasonable FarrenH Jul 2014 #18

No I understand that. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #19

You're making a distinction without a difference FarrenH Jul 2014 #21

Except. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #22

I'm VERY familiar with it FarrenH Jul 2014 #23

You aren't supporting your argument though. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #24

Your argument is very strange FarrenH Jul 2014 #25

Actually lots of people do. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #53

If Israel is apartheid SnakeEyes Jul 2014 #10

If apartheid does not exist in one part of a country shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #17

Precisely FarrenH Jul 2014 #20

exactly shaayecanaan ... Israeli Jul 2014 #29

Why not? ann--- Jul 2014 #26

Except I would have the same rights. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #27

Try reading this.... ann--- Jul 2014 #28

Ok. I read it. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Jul 2014 #54

I would hope timdog44 Jul 2014 #34

Huh? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #40

Are you serious with this post? King_David Jul 2014 #48

Interesting take from someone who lived in both places and times. n/t freshwest Jul 2014 #30

Just another variation of progressive except where Palestinians are concerned FarrenH Jul 2014 #31

Hi. timdog44 Jul 2014 #33

So glad to hear from you! Have been through a lot too. Having computer troubles now. Talk later. freshwest Jul 2014 #36

Apartheid timdog44 Jul 2014 #32

Ok. That's awesome. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #38

LOL King_David Jul 2014 #43

Omg! I missed this part! Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #39

Jews timdog44 Jul 2014 #42

Makes no difference what YOU accept , at all. King_David Jul 2014 #44

Jews timdog44 Jul 2014 #46

Jews are a nation King_David Jul 2014 #47

Jews are a nation timdog44 Jul 2014 #49

Sides ? King_David Jul 2014 #50

Miltinational state. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #78

Statement issued from 1885 Conference of Rabbis: HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #59

So who cares what the Rabbis say ? King_David Jul 2014 #60

All you needed was a gift from the UN, a gift that wasn't theirs to give. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #61

What's the UN got to do with deciding King_David Jul 2014 #62

I guess you haven't studied history, HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #63

Oh I know exactly what I am talking about, King_David Jul 2014 #64

Would the State of Israel exist, without the UN stealing half of Palestine to give to them? HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #66

We were talking about Jews King_David Jul 2014 #67

I'm sorry. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #75

Understandable the % Jewish population rose, HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #85

You certainly are guessing. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #90

Here's your facts, Bob. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #92

Did you actually read my post? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #95

So then Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #76

Wikipedia the word nation. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #77

I think you did not read the entire article. timdog44 Jul 2014 #87

Of course I did. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #91

At this point let's just brand Israel as murderers. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #35

Let's not Aerows Jul 2014 #37

Thanks again for setting the record right with that particular poster King_David Jul 2014 #45

35. At this point let's just brand Israel as murderers. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #57

Why? It's true ann--- Jul 2014 #51

Thanks for the post timdog44 Jul 2014 #56

What you believe? King_David Jul 2014 #65

Nice to have you follow me around. timdog44 Jul 2014 #68

Where do you get this stuff from? King_David Jul 2014 #69

Sad to have timdog44 Jul 2014 #70

Cite please King_David Jul 2014 #71

Not sue that citing apartheid timdog44 Jul 2014 #72

OK was fun but enough now, What Shaktimaan said here +1 King_David Jul 2014 #73

Appreciate your attitude. timdog44 Jul 2014 #74

Are you aware of why I responded in that manner? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #93

To be honest with you timdog44 Aug 2014 #96

Archbishop Tutu and Nelson Mandela disagree with you Larkspur Jul 2014 #52

Nope. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #79

He may not have been explicit but he never corrected Arafat's use of it to describe their shared Larkspur Jul 2014 #88

Israel has occupied Palestine and systematically stolen Palestinian land, Maedhros Jul 2014 #81

Bullshit map Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #82

OK, then. Consider only the West Bank. Maedhros Jul 2014 #89

if you want maps .... Israeli Jul 2014 #83

Thanks for all the links King_David Jul 2014 #86

I am still wondering if this is Apartheid, ethnic cleansing, genocide, or massacre. 4now Jul 2014 #94