Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Rightists Award Student Who Persecuted 'Left-Wing' Teacher [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Which is why I oppose Zionism - along with white supremacism. In fact as I've explained before, there are no appreciable differences between the two - Zionism is a child of white supremacism, and carries with it the same hatred for Arabs and blacks, and very often, no shortage of disgust towards Jews as well.
Zionism is not, and never will be even a remotely liberal ideology. This doesn't change even if otherwise liberal people uphold it - it just makes those people bad at being liberals in that respect. That the only defense you have ever mounted for the concept of "liberal zionism" is that a political party in the US pays lip service to it on occasion really just reinforces this point I'm making Dave. If it were liberal in any way you could defend it on those merits rather than with an internally weak bandwagon fallacy. But it's not, and you can't.