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Fridap

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26. Nor is it hard to read the About page at Wind-Watch.org
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 07:00 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Tue Sep 24, 2013, 09:51 PM - Edit history (2)

And it's true that I have heretofore never joined in at DU. And that the small-minded prejudice on display here does not inspire further participation. This post was brought to my attention by a friend who shares an interest in opposition to big wind from the left, eg, by Earth First..

Although Wind Watch appears to be politically neutral, or ecumenical, at least one paper at aweo.org by the president of Wind Watch, Eric Rosenbloom, "Exploitation and destruction: some things to know about industrial wind power" hardly seems something that the Koch brothers would support. In fact, its viewpoint appears to be well to the left of most of what I have seen at DU.

As for "assertions", that is rather what your presentation of building wind turbines as an inherent not-to-be-questioned good is: obviously harmful, yet with dubious mitigating benefit. Looking at the actual record, the best that can be said on the credit side is that building wind has driven the building of natural gas plants which are necessary to back it up: thus replacing some coal with a somewhat cleaner fossil fuel (and expanding the market for fracking!). So not really changing much in the long run. Except for opening up — with the blessing of environmentalists — more wild and open spaces to industrial development. Greenpeace close-dancing with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. 350.org working on behalf of its Wall St. funders.

It is the knee-jerk and obviously desperate attempt to paint all who question the wisdom of industrial wind as rabid reactionaries that is hard to take seriously.

wind-watch.org [View all] iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 OP
I googled some of the officers named at the bottom of their website. amerikat Sep 2013 #1
They are one of the first astroturf antiwind organizations to spring up kristopher Sep 2013 #2
astroturf? Fridap Sep 2013 #3
You expect astroturf groups to self-identify themselves? kristopher Sep 2013 #4
oh man, I heard about how dangerous they are Kali Sep 2013 #5
You. Crack. maddezmom Sep 2013 #8
Paid propaganda mongers that spew lies about wind power. jpak Sep 2013 #6
Nice of you to sign up to DU to support them here though. Nihil Sep 2013 #7
Just the visuals are a huge tipoff caraher Sep 2013 #9
Inspiring 350.org? Fridap Sep 2013 #23
Perhaps so (re: private registration) caraher Sep 2013 #24
A new symptom of an astroturf org, eh? FBaggins Sep 2013 #25
Nor is it hard to read the About page at Wind-Watch.org Fridap Sep 2013 #26
Another "lefty" anti-wind essay by Wind Watch prez Fridap Sep 2013 #27
Wow. Fridap Sep 2013 #10
Two posts and you're already calling others' pathetic? FBaggins Sep 2013 #11
I think I have some names now caraher Sep 2013 #12
Thanks. kristopher Sep 2013 #13
Maybe not almost incalculably so, but still small Fridap Sep 2013 #14
Wind, solar and energy efficiency are the key elements to decarbonizing modern society kristopher Sep 2013 #16
No, using drastically less is only way Fridap Sep 2013 #18
Read the article, not the teaser. Fridap Sep 2013 #17
Reading the article only reinforces the view that the author is misinformed caraher Sep 2013 #19
I agree Fridap Sep 2013 #20
It does suggest the author has nothing to contribute beyond a distaste for wind turbines caraher Sep 2013 #21
Building wind is quite different from reducing carbon Fridap Sep 2013 #22
Interesting Fridap Sep 2013 #15
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