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caraher

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21. It does suggest the author has nothing to contribute beyond a distaste for wind turbines
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:54 AM
Sep 2013

Plenty of serious analyses have shown wind in fact can provide a very significant fraction of our electricity, and that projections for the contributions of renewables are frequently serious underestimates:

Although the IEA has always been outspoken about the need to deploy more low-carbon technologies and address climate change, the organization has been known for its conservative analysis about the future growth of renewables.

For example, in 2003, it projected that non-hydro renewables would only represent 4 percent of global generation by 2030 under an aggressive policy scenario. But the industry hit that threshold in 2011 -- nearly twenty years early.

Eric Martinot, research director at the Institute for Sustainable Energy Policies, wrote in his recent Renewables Global Futures report about how the IEA and other international organizations have consistently underplayed the growth trajectory for renewables.

"Given the dynamic nature of this growth over the past decade, many past projections of renewable energy have already fallen short. For example, the International Energy Agency (IEA) in 2000 projected 34 gigawatts (GW) of wind power globally by 2010, while the actual level reached was 200 GW. The World Bank in 1996 projected 9 GW of wind power and 0.5 GW of solar PV in China by 2020, while the actual levels reached in 2011, nine years early, were 62 GW of wind power and 3 GW of solar PV. The history of energy scenarios is full of similar projections for renewable energy that proved too low by a factor of 10, or were achieved a decade earlier than expected," wrote Martinot.



The writer uses a very limited quantitative factoid to draw a demonstrably false conclusion about the usefulness of wind - not coincidentally, as part of an effort to prevent wind from being used widely enough to make a difference.

So I'm curious - if you're anti-wind, as you seem to be, what do you propose instead?
wind-watch.org [View all] iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 OP
I googled some of the officers named at the bottom of their website. amerikat Sep 2013 #1
They are one of the first astroturf antiwind organizations to spring up kristopher Sep 2013 #2
astroturf? Fridap Sep 2013 #3
You expect astroturf groups to self-identify themselves? kristopher Sep 2013 #4
oh man, I heard about how dangerous they are Kali Sep 2013 #5
You. Crack. maddezmom Sep 2013 #8
Paid propaganda mongers that spew lies about wind power. jpak Sep 2013 #6
Nice of you to sign up to DU to support them here though. Nihil Sep 2013 #7
Just the visuals are a huge tipoff caraher Sep 2013 #9
Inspiring 350.org? Fridap Sep 2013 #23
Perhaps so (re: private registration) caraher Sep 2013 #24
A new symptom of an astroturf org, eh? FBaggins Sep 2013 #25
Nor is it hard to read the About page at Wind-Watch.org Fridap Sep 2013 #26
Another "lefty" anti-wind essay by Wind Watch prez Fridap Sep 2013 #27
Wow. Fridap Sep 2013 #10
Two posts and you're already calling others' pathetic? FBaggins Sep 2013 #11
I think I have some names now caraher Sep 2013 #12
Thanks. kristopher Sep 2013 #13
Maybe not almost incalculably so, but still small Fridap Sep 2013 #14
Wind, solar and energy efficiency are the key elements to decarbonizing modern society kristopher Sep 2013 #16
No, using drastically less is only way Fridap Sep 2013 #18
Read the article, not the teaser. Fridap Sep 2013 #17
Reading the article only reinforces the view that the author is misinformed caraher Sep 2013 #19
I agree Fridap Sep 2013 #20
It does suggest the author has nothing to contribute beyond a distaste for wind turbines caraher Sep 2013 #21
Building wind is quite different from reducing carbon Fridap Sep 2013 #22
Interesting Fridap Sep 2013 #15
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