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Speck Tater

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6. But on the other hand, what can we expect?
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jan 2013

People, including myself to be perfectly honest, are not simply going to voluntarily give up everything they would have to give up right now in order to save the planet. On the one hand, I already live a life of voluntary simplicity, but I'm still far richer and more privileged than most of the rest of the human race. So suppose I really did further reduce my footprint to where the average footprint needs to be to save the planet? What then? Would enough other people follow suit to make a difference? Or would I just be that one crazy hunter-gatherer guy who lives in the cave outside of town?

Frankly, nothing I can do will make a noticeable difference, and there's no way I can convince enough people to follow my example so that it would make a difference. The human race is on a collision course with reality and only reality is in a position to make things change. The laws of physics do not negotiate with humans, nor do they care what we wish were true.

If there were something I could do that would actually make a difference on a global scale, I'd do it. But I can't really think of anything, and most of the rest of the species doesn't really give it any thought. So it looks like the die has been cast and our destiny already written.

The truth about “Jevons Paradox” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #1
Are you claiming that this somehow disputes the rebound principle? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #2
The “rebound effect” is real, but its magnitude is exaggerated OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #5
I would invite you to read section 5 of the paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #8
Truthfully, telling me that a paper proves (among other things) that the “Jevons Paradox…is real”… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #10
As I said below, GliderGuider Jan 2013 #11
Whose reasoning is motivated? Mine? Yours? or the author’s? OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #12
Well, I'm not throwing up the impassioned defense, and the author just wrote a paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #15
Oh, energy efficiency can’t save civilization by itself OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #16
Mangling Energy Efficiency Economics OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #13
Some Dilemma: Efficient Appliances Use Less Energy, Produce the Same Level of Service with Less… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #14
Well, just to start.... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20
You buck the system AldoLeopold Jan 2013 #24
Energy Efficiency is for Real, Energy Rebound a Distraction OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #17
I know exactly how the general public will respond to this... Speck Tater Jan 2013 #3
Of course they will. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #4
But on the other hand, what can we expect? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #6
I doubt the general public would be able to understand this even if they wanted too. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #7
Yes, that's why I posted it here instead of in GD GliderGuider Jan 2013 #9
Prosperity is when everyone has enough to eat, a safe place to sleep... hunter Jan 2013 #18
True that. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #19
I thought prosperity is when everyone within earshot has those things NoOneMan Jan 2013 #21
+1 nt eppur_se_muova Jan 2013 #22
+100 Well said. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #23
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