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In reply to the discussion: STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Wednesday, 28 March 2012 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)46. Obama takes Bush’s secrecy games one step further By Glenn Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/2012/03/26/obama_takes_bushs_secrecy_games_one_step_further/singleton/
The ACLU is suing the Obama administration under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), seeking to force disclosure of the guidelines used by Obama officials to select which human beings (both U.S. citizens and foreign nationals) will have their lives ended by the CIAs drone attacks (In particular, the group explains, the FOIA request seeks to find out when, where and against whom drone strikes can be authorized, and how the United States ensures compliance with international laws relating to extrajudicial killing). The Obama administration has not only refused to provide any of that information, but worse, the CIA is insisting to federal courts that it cannot even confirm or deny the existence of a drone program at all without seriously damaging national security...
What makes this so appalling is not merely that the Obama administration demands the right to kill whomever it wants without having to account to anyone for its actions, choices or even claimed legal authorities, though thats obviously bad enough (as I wrote when the ACLU lawsuit was commenced: from a certain perspective, theres really only one point worth making about all of this: if you think about it, it is warped beyond belief that the ACLU has to sue the U.S. Government in order to force it to disclose its claimed legal and factual bases for assassinating U.S. citizens without charges, trial or due process of any kind). What makes it so much worse is how blatantly, insultingly false is its claim that it cannot confirm or deny the CIA drone program without damaging national security....Everyone in the world knows the CIA has a drone program. It is openly discussed everywhere, certainly including the multiple Muslim countries where the drones routinely create piles of corpses, and by top U.S. Government officials themselves.
But then when it comes time to test the accuracy of their public claims by requesting the most basic information about what is done and how execution targets are selected, and when it comes time to ask courts to adjudicate its legality, then suddenly National Security imperatives prevent the government even from confirming or denying the existence of the program: the very same program theyve been publicly boasting and joking about. As the ACLUs Jameel Jaffer put it after Obama publicly defended the program: At this point, the only consequence of pretending that its a secret program is that the courts dont play a role in overseeing it that, and ensuring that any facts that contradict these public claims remain concealed....it literally removes our highest political officials from the rule of law.
IN OTHER NEWS: NO HOPE, NO CHANGE, NO HOPE OF CHANGE
The ACLU is suing the Obama administration under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), seeking to force disclosure of the guidelines used by Obama officials to select which human beings (both U.S. citizens and foreign nationals) will have their lives ended by the CIAs drone attacks (In particular, the group explains, the FOIA request seeks to find out when, where and against whom drone strikes can be authorized, and how the United States ensures compliance with international laws relating to extrajudicial killing). The Obama administration has not only refused to provide any of that information, but worse, the CIA is insisting to federal courts that it cannot even confirm or deny the existence of a drone program at all without seriously damaging national security...
What makes this so appalling is not merely that the Obama administration demands the right to kill whomever it wants without having to account to anyone for its actions, choices or even claimed legal authorities, though thats obviously bad enough (as I wrote when the ACLU lawsuit was commenced: from a certain perspective, theres really only one point worth making about all of this: if you think about it, it is warped beyond belief that the ACLU has to sue the U.S. Government in order to force it to disclose its claimed legal and factual bases for assassinating U.S. citizens without charges, trial or due process of any kind). What makes it so much worse is how blatantly, insultingly false is its claim that it cannot confirm or deny the CIA drone program without damaging national security....Everyone in the world knows the CIA has a drone program. It is openly discussed everywhere, certainly including the multiple Muslim countries where the drones routinely create piles of corpses, and by top U.S. Government officials themselves.
But then when it comes time to test the accuracy of their public claims by requesting the most basic information about what is done and how execution targets are selected, and when it comes time to ask courts to adjudicate its legality, then suddenly National Security imperatives prevent the government even from confirming or denying the existence of the program: the very same program theyve been publicly boasting and joking about. As the ACLUs Jameel Jaffer put it after Obama publicly defended the program: At this point, the only consequence of pretending that its a secret program is that the courts dont play a role in overseeing it that, and ensuring that any facts that contradict these public claims remain concealed....it literally removes our highest political officials from the rule of law.
IN OTHER NEWS: NO HOPE, NO CHANGE, NO HOPE OF CHANGE
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