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In reply to the discussion: Pic Of The Moment: North-Eastern U.S. Hunkers Down For Historic Winter Storm [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)38. ........
but here's a question:
consider a lily pond that fills with lilies after 30 days, and every day the lilies double in number.
On what day is the pond half full of lilies?
The 29th day.
Yeah, overpopulation is a problem: and part of it, btw, is the fact that we are not really quite as efficient as we could be. I mean, we're still burning coal for chrissakes.
What I'm saying is what happens when the jet stream stops moving, the rains don't stop or never come, or it just totally reorganizes itself in a given year, as models suggest might occur? Don't we at least need to try to be ready to minimize the damage?
What if the northern hemisphere just turns into a giant one way wind storm? (OK that was a bit shrill, even for me, because I haven't actually seen the predictions on what happens *after* the atmospheric bands dissolve. Hopefully we never have to find out).
Most of this isn't actually going to happen, though(at least not by global warming!), that's the problem.....well, except the re-alignment of the jet stream I suppose, but everything else is sci-fi: none of that other stuff is even indicated in paleoclimate records that we know of, at least not caused by climate change.
I'm also very hopeful if we can just get through this, we could be at the dawn of a golden solar age -- solar grid parity is already upon us in many sectors and places, and only the sluggish ignorance of the American body politic has prevented us from preparing for the event as Germany so brilliantly has. When that comes, and energy production becomes much more decentralized, that will break the death grip of the Kochs and their ilk on our government and cultural discourse. We will see massive positive changes at every level, hopefully including a final recognition energy was never the solution to begin with, nor gluttonous consumption of material goods, and without the centralized advertising culture telling us how to behave we'll start to act a bit like humans again, at long last.
Here's hoping it happens sooner rather than later.....
But we can't get there unless we make sure we have oxygen to breathe first, is all I'm saying.
I don't think we'll need to worry about that particular thing, though, at least.
Well, let's see what happens to the sea ice the next few years (new PIOMAS ice volume numbers are out today by the way), and meanwhile, I'll keep trying to find ways to help save this poor old planet, whatever anyone else thinks.
That's the spirit!
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Pic Of The Moment: North-Eastern U.S. Hunkers Down For Historic Winter Storm [View all]
EarlG
Feb 2013
OP
Be prepared for 'the regional party' to deny aid for the States of Northern Aggression. nt
onehandle
Feb 2013
#2
None of that changes the fact that it's just not as simple as the Globe Warming.
thetonka
Feb 2013
#24
While heaven05 is definitely incorrect about the "destroyed planet" thing to an extent.....
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#10
Yes, and I didn't intend to imply that feedbacks were impossible, period.....
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#39
As opposed to some of the extreme doomer B.S. that's been posted on this site.....
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#52
"Up to two feet" and a weeks notice before hand. Not a very big deal at all.
xtraxritical
Feb 2013
#18
And . . . Eric Cantor will call for government spending cuts to offset any aid to areas
tclambert
Feb 2013
#36
I agree with most of this, but there's one thing that needs to be addressed.
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#51