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alarimer

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100. The kind of cheerleading I've been seeing makes me sick.

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:50 AM

Jun 2016

At this points, it's all about whose team you're on, nothing more. And I've never been a team player.

Sure, I supposed this is historical. But so was Thatcher, so...

I really resent the fact that I am supposed to cheer Hillary or vote for her because she's a woman, because, you know, it's history. If people don't come out and say that, at least it's implied.

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Matt Taibbi: Democrats Will Learn All the Wrong Lessons From Brush With Bernie [View all] antigop Jun 2016 OP

This is absolutely so true. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #1

Maybe Our Leaders Don't Want Landslide Change billhicks76 Jun 2016 #69

No maybe about that. MisterFred Jun 2016 #74

It's a Vichy regime alright. I always love the resistance way more than Vichy government. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #108

highprinciple, hope I'm not stepping on your saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #193

highprinciple, hope I'm not stepping on your saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #194

I'm down with that. We need more music celebrating the People around here! Thanks. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #196

Thank you, Marley and Bootsy made my day. saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #197

"So Much Trouble In The World" SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #203

Awesome Justice4 Jun 2016 #233

tired of reading the happy-talk SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #201

Be sure that you read the rules about posting. ehrnst Jun 2016 #236

" Maybe Our Leaders Don't Want Landslide Change" LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #157

Nailed It billhicks76 Jun 2016 #160

Yep Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #116

Seems they want to dismiss Bernie and the issues he and the majority stand for ASAP bjobotts Jun 2016 #154

Not only should he have been impeached... SylviaD Jun 2016 #190

Bad hair-do. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #212

Now that they have won Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #2

And they'll call it "unity" pengu Jun 2016 #77

Isn't that the point of underground? We are Democrats who want and need change. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #119

Apparently DU is now part of the establishment apparatus Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #120

Correction: a D with some undetermined amount of time. libdem4life Jun 2016 #127

Yup zipplewrath Jun 2016 #128

Democratic Overground? Kall Jun 2016 #152

Nonsense.Anti republican DU believes in making the best out of what"s there, pushing left bjobotts Jun 2016 #156

The evidence is pretty substantial that HRC is NOT "progressive" or "liberal" Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #162

You mean the lesser of 2 evils classykaren Jun 2016 #183

Underground? freebrew Jun 2016 #131

Totally agree except for one thing... cui bono Jun 2016 #136

There was a thread a little while ago... freebrew Jun 2016 #138

Revoke the ic. It now should be Democrat Underground. RW'ers love that one. brewens Jun 2016 #150

I usd to ridicule without mercy working Americans who voted AGAINST... bvar22 Jun 2016 #149

And asking me for donations to do it. n/t SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2016 #218

Democratic "Underground" LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #155

Umhummmm SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #222

Thanks for posting this. K&R. Eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #3

Democratic voter participation has been abysmal for a long time. You need real political power Trust Buster Jun 2016 #4

Political power like that is bought or FOUGHT for. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #10

VOTER participation is abysmal I'm America ... KPN Jun 2016 #86

You have to give people a reason to vote. Scruffy1 Jun 2016 #118

Great idea. Alas, too much money at stake RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #5

That's just it, what fun is all of that power without gobs of money to go with it? Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #35

no change will come when you have the Clintonians gleefully cackling over AntiBank Jun 2016 #41

Here's what one of my friends said about them: chervilant Jun 2016 #82

I think he thinks too highly of them. KPN Jun 2016 #89

I have long felt that our community chervilant Jun 2016 #206

I hear ya! KPN Jun 2016 #219

HRC fans? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #223

That is because ignorance is strength. zeemike Jun 2016 #132

Against Stupidity the Very Gods themselves Contend in Vain! FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #145

Thank you for sharing this. chervilant Jun 2016 #207

It is called the Dunning-Kruger Effect elljay Jun 2016 #195

I am so glad you shared this. chervilant Jun 2016 #208

I don't think so elljay Jun 2016 #214

The party is losing the younger generations. They are sickened by what they see, money-grubbing Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #87

Invasion of the Body Snatchers? mdbl Jun 2016 #72

Eventually may not be soon enough. KPN Jun 2016 #88

So true. It all makes me disgusted with establishment Dems. What little vision .. just greed. YOHABLO Jun 2016 #6

This is all so true,dems would have been in power wendylaroux Jun 2016 #7

Establishment game plan. Jackilope Jun 2016 #18

well put AntiBank Jun 2016 #57

That is exactly what the millenials believe: KPN Jun 2016 #90

It's what they've been taught. Igel Jun 2016 #113

Observation, real life experience and ... KPN Jun 2016 #122

It's not so much taught, Fenimore Jun 2016 #141

They have to count your vote. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #224

We've had a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY.... Raster Jun 2016 #8

Send the Republicans into the desert shadowmayor Jun 2016 #23

the problem is that if the centre right party is destroyed AntiBank Jun 2016 #47

Yup. Exactly what I've been thinking. The Democrats KPN Jun 2016 #91

Yes. The dirty little secret about a 2 party system is that a truly big tent left wing party AntiBank Jun 2016 #93

People who have no vision passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #28

Oh, that's not why they hate Bernie. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #31

So Now Who Is Going To Fix Our Completely Corrupt Rigged, 1% Ran Government? scottie55 Jun 2016 #55

What's four more years on top of six generations? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #58

You are correct Scoot, that is not the real reason why they hate Bernie. Raster Jun 2016 #139

bingo dembotoz Jun 2016 #144

Excellent points all!! Thank you. FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #147

Most welcome. Raster Jun 2016 #148

I think it's a two-fold problem passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #158

You are correct. FEAR is a powerful motivator. I have learned that ANYTIME, ANYONE... Raster Jun 2016 #161

Spot on! geardaddy Jun 2016 #178

Very Well Said NikolaC Jun 2016 #192

Exactly! I made the same point before seeing this post. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #62

Yeah, that one... bonemachine Jun 2016 #130

Wow, this is exactly how so many Hillary fans saw Bernie. Beartracks Jun 2016 #29

There was a notorious anti-Bernie poster... Raster Jun 2016 #33

Wow. That kinda sums up the attitude of many Hill fans. Beartracks Jun 2016 #37

superb summation AntiBank Jun 2016 #42

It's the Idiocracy syndrome mdbl Jun 2016 #73

Wow... chervilant Jun 2016 #83

and let's call a spade a spade: Raster Jun 2016 #143

HRC's supporters here on DU say this all the time: tblue37 Jun 2016 #61

SO true Plucketeer Jun 2016 #98

Pure projecting by people blinded for so long, who have forgotten the past, so we are now FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #153

This might be the saddest thing I've read today: CrispyQ Jun 2016 #104

It's a long ways to the GE. This has been an election season with libdem4life Jun 2016 #129

I'm not sure they didn't grasp it, I think they purposely squashed it. cui bono Jun 2016 #137

I concur. Raster Jun 2016 #140

Corporate establishment won Geronimoe Jun 2016 #9

Hell California didn't even count more than a third before they declared a Hillary victory. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #11

Who's "they"? Igel Jun 2016 #115

.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #26

I have zero confidence in our electoral process. CrispyQ Jun 2016 #105

It may be they Party swings further right to absorb what remains of the GOP. Gore1FL Jun 2016 #12

this has already started to happen. As for a new left party forming AntiBank Jun 2016 #48

No, it wouldn't. Igel Jun 2016 #117

New Democratic party.... SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #225

People who want major political change shouldn't think top-down: struggle4progress Jun 2016 #13

Maybe our "allies" shouldn't work so hard to poison us when we try Scootaloo Jun 2016 #34

We can organize for the issues important to us and then use our organization struggle4progress Jun 2016 #63

And my point is those who pose as allies so often work to sabotage. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #67

the corporate money is so vast the power establishment can crush AntiBank Jun 2016 #44

"Resistance is futile!" struggle4progress Jun 2016 #64

No, remove the corporate money from the election system, by any means necessary AntiBank Jun 2016 #65

Have to win elections to do that. And after winning elections, still have to lobby struggle4progress Jun 2016 #66

spot on AntiBank - that is Step 1 in what will be a long term process. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #109

The people who don't vote are the problem The Green Manalishi Jun 2016 #121

Please enlighten us on how people should educate themselves and participate in the d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #164

How does any of that have anything to do with a person going to the polls The Green Manalishi Jun 2016 #175

I'm sure working class families go home to watch dancing with the stars d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #185

All valid facts The Green Manalishi Jun 2016 #234

same old shit. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #210

The messaging needs to evolve from a national educational format. libdem4life Jun 2016 #133

Most hilariously self-described "progressives" here missed those same things. nt villager Jun 2016 #14

'the party leaders have been and probably will continue to be too dense to listen. elleng Jun 2016 #15

they aren't dense at all, they goddamn well know what they are doing AntiBank Jun 2016 #51

Right elleng Jun 2016 #52

The Democratic Party should do that. tom_kelly Jun 2016 #16

Hooooey...much prefer Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2016 #17

I've been really sad over this. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #19

How do we know what voters would support? IronLionZion Jun 2016 #20

"the number of voters who nominated a hateful bloviating buffoon with no qualifications" AntiBank Jun 2016 #56

Puts it all into words. Kall Jun 2016 #21

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #27

It's all about maintaining truebluegreen Jun 2016 #22

It's early yet. davidthegnome Jun 2016 #24

They have polled elljay Jun 2016 #39

I don't think fed up people will vote for a racist, homophobic, vile asshole. leftofcool Jun 2016 #75

And that is the problem elljay Jun 2016 #107

Geez, this country allowed Dick Cheney and GW Bush to run it into the ground- FOR 8 YEARS! mdbl Jun 2016 #198

Oh they may not ALL be racist. davidthegnome Jun 2016 #202

Excellent post, thank you, nt stopwastingmymoney Jun 2016 #40

Brilliant post The Green Manalishi Jun 2016 #124

k/r x a zillion 840high Jun 2016 #25

Very true. It's doubtful the DNC lightbulb goes on. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #30

^^^THIS^^^^!!! Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #46

... and that will give the Republicans the time they need ... surrealAmerican Jun 2016 #81

He talks as if he knows something. He knows nothing. The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #32

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #36

Most times we try to engage Clinton supporters on the issues AntiBank Jun 2016 #50

That Darn Jimmy Carter Saying Our Country Is An Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery!!!! scottie55 Jun 2016 #54

Well, only Dorothy Gale talks to straw men, so... Scootaloo Jun 2016 #68

Nicely said. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #186

With an unhinged right wing party that is no longer centre right AntiBank Jun 2016 #38

Not since LBJ shadowmayor Jun 2016 #49

This needs to be recognized more. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #187

I've seen comments claiming, "The American people have rejected Bernie's message." Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #43

the systemic controllers a priori rejected his message and steered accordingly AntiBank Jun 2016 #59

They largely have unfortunately c-ville rook Jun 2016 #112

Actually, a big chunk of this country consists of disillusioned middle-aged suicides.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #142

The problem with "the people" is they are very much stupid, ignorant and ill-informed, by plan. FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #151

The media never aired his speeches.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #180

Worse, they cut Bernie off when he was saying something that they could not handle; such FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #188

Cannot agree more. Look at the recs these types of stories get. What to do, Sigh. nt phazed0 Jun 2016 #45

K&R. Absolutely! dchill Jun 2016 #53

Don't forget-- tblue37 Jun 2016 #60

They can't hear you, Matt. Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #70

The kind of cheerleading I've been seeing makes me sick. alarimer Jun 2016 #100

To quite a few people on DU, and in the American political arena... Raster Jun 2016 #146

I know it's a bit off the subject but... Harriety Jun 2016 #71

The problem there is that Biden is just as much a corporatist as Hillary. He is just folksier. djean111 Jun 2016 #76

K&R myrna minx Jun 2016 #78

Democrats have moved to the right and have no intention of getting behind anything progressive. djean111 Jun 2016 #79

"If the Democratic Party would ... Scuba Jun 2016 #80

Why would the democratic party want to learn something different? seabeckind Jun 2016 #84

The tagline that ran under the article's headline: Miles Archer Jun 2016 #85

antigop—Well… CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #92

K&R... disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #94

HRC will take the party even further to the right. CrispyQ Jun 2016 #95

I guess to beat the republicans we had to become the republicans (nt) pokerfan Jun 2016 #189

Party Leaders zentrum Jun 2016 #96

If they would represent The People they could win without dirty corporate money. CrispyQ Jun 2016 #97

the meat of the matter DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #99

He must be in high demand. Politicub Jun 2016 #101

"Washington culture is too far up its own backside to see much of anything at all." alarimer Jun 2016 #102

I think that Cornell West explains why those Democrats who deserve an easier time won't get it. midnight Jun 2016 #103

"Smugness redoubled" indeed. FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #106

The naiveté being expressed in this thread is matched only stopbush Jun 2016 #110

You might want to consider changing your username then. Bush hasn't been president for a while. nt 2cannan Jun 2016 #159

My user name dates back to 2001, when I joined DU. Long-timers here stopbush Jun 2016 #171

I know--it was really just a tongue-in-cheek comment. I only said it because you were urging Bernie 2cannan Jun 2016 #173

OK. stopbush Jun 2016 #174

I'm not sure that's true. TonyPDX Jun 2016 #111

They'd win elections but wouldn't get the goodies from oligarchs. Priorities, priorities! nt valerief Jun 2016 #114

Instead...Hillary's latest victories mean any "pressure" they might have felt to change has now been AlbertCat Jun 2016 #123

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #125

This sums up the Bernie Fan mentality to a T Tarc Jun 2016 #126

This sums up you. Making unsupported offensive accusations.He won 47% of the vote bjobotts Jun 2016 #163

"If independent were allowed to vote..." Tarc Jun 2016 #165

We don't know? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #213

Yes, and that is a good thing Tarc Jun 2016 #217

OK, and if you're so freakin' interested in having a closed primary... Raster Jun 2016 #221

You don't get to decide where your taxes specifically go to, bro Tarc Jun 2016 #228

No, this is different, we are talking about voting. Raster Jun 2016 #230

It isn't different at all Tarc Jun 2016 #231

couldn't agree more ProfessorPlum Jun 2016 #134

K/R Jack Rabbit Jun 2016 #135

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #166

Ut oh, RollingStone will soon be thrown under the bus Corruption Inc Jun 2016 #167

The fundamental structure of our two-party system... afertal Jun 2016 #168

Best post in the thread so far, very well put Fumesucker Jun 2016 #215

notion of pushing the dem party left is silly as long as certainot Jun 2016 #169

the bolded part is spot on. the racist and sexist half of the party wasted an opportunity we won't Doctor_J Jun 2016 #170

K&R LiberalEsto Jun 2016 #172

Odd he would bring up unions, when many are the top Hillary contributors. Very odd. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #176

This may backfire on them sandyshoes17 Jun 2016 #177

Have fun! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #211

K & R geardaddy Jun 2016 #179

"Stop taking giant gobs of money" ThoughtCriminal Jun 2016 #181

They don't want to win for US. They want to win for TPTB. That's not us. senz Jun 2016 #182

Is it that the Party Leaders "are dense" ?? Or is it that truedelphi Jun 2016 #184

They will remain corrupt cowards. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #191

Anyone up for a viewing of Mr Smith goes to Washington? mdbl Jun 2016 #199

The Solution is Simple Ccarmona Jun 2016 #200

Today's Democratic Party is a pathetic and weak excuse for good political discourse Stainless Jun 2016 #204

insincere words of praise SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #209

Why is Taibbi even considered relevant? Gman Jun 2016 #205

The real question remains unanswered: Why does anyone think Hillary is still considered relevant? Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #216

Investigating her for the four years as SOS?? Gman Jun 2016 #232

I guess the Democrat who voted for her in the primaries are irrelevant according to still_one Jun 2016 #229

if Dems did what Taibbi said, GOP would be dead and useless as an excuse yurbud Jun 2016 #220

But if the Democratic Party followed Taibbi's advice......... guillaumeb Jun 2016 #226

Lesson #1: Bully tactics don't supersede the will of the voters. annavictorious Jun 2016 #227

(kick) Electric Monk Jun 2016 #235

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #237