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73. Is this constitutional? Ignoring the Second, How about the right of someone to be an adult?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:30 PM
Oct 2014

Here we have a law that permits relatives to ask a Judge to take away a right just because they THINK he may be a danger to someone or him or herself?

Under Roman Law, any person was under the authority of the eldest living male in his or her family till they either died OR became that eldest living male. Even the Romans said that rule was Unique to themselves, no one else had such a law, but it was a fundamental Roman Law.

Now women came under the authority of their husbands, and their children were viewed as members of their husband's family not the woman's, but even if married, Roman head of household could order her marriage dissolved.

To get around this rule, when Christianity became the State Religion, if you entered Religious orders (or even the Priesthood) you had to get the eldest living male's permission, through once granted you were viewed as no longer a member of your old family (this is where it is believed the adoption of new names upon entering a religious orders started, through it did NOT become the norm till the late Dark Ages).

Contrary to Roman Law, the English Common law said you became independent of your parents on two conditions, First when you turned 21 years of age, second if your parents by their own actions, were no longer do care, control or supervision over you. There was no bottom age for such emancipation, through the law did say children under age Seven were PRESUMED to be incompetent, and children over 14 were presumed to be Competent (through you could agree to be married WITHOUT your parent's consent at age 12). Between ages Seven and 14, competency was ruled on a case by case basis (And in one case in the early 1700s, it was ruled that a seven year old was competent enough to know that stealing was a crime, and hanged for it, for he was ruled to be competent).

Now, most states dropped the age of majority to 18 in the early 1970s (Pennsylvania was one state that DID not do that, instead Pennsylvania just dropped all statutes with age limits, except for drinking to 18, thus in Pennsylvania you are still a minor till you turn 21, but for all practical purposes you are of age at 18, except for drinking).

Given this history, under what THEORY of law can people get the court to require an adult NOT to do something that is legal, because the relatives do NOT want that adult to do it???

Think about it. We are dealing with an adult who has NOT committed a crime and who has NOT been shown to be incompetent, yet we are permitting that ADULT's relatives to impose restrictions on him or her.

Now we are dealing with firearms, but the logic behind doing this for firearms may NOT restrict it to firearms, what about Automobiles (mentioned above) or even baseball bats? What about Sex or getting or not getting an abortion? Where do you draw the line, on a constitutional basis, when no crime has been committed and no one is saying the person should be locked up in a mental institution? i.e he or she IS NOT a harm to himself of other (which is the test for locking someone up in a Mental institution).

Again, I am ignoring the Second Amendment/Right to bear arms argument. I am concentrating on the concept of being an Adult that includes the RIGHT to do what you what to do as long as it is legal.

Here is the key section of the new law:

CHAPTER 2. TEMPORARY EMERGENCY GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER

18125. (a) A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order may be issued on an ex parte basis only if a law enforcement officer asserts, and a judicial officer finds, that there is reasonable cause to believe both of the following:

(1) The subject of the petition poses an immediate and present danger of causing personal injury to himself, herself, or another by having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm.

(2) A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order is necessary to prevent personal injury to the subject of the petition or another because less restrictive alternatives either have been tried and found to be ineffective, or have been determined to be inadequate or inappropriate for the circumstances of the subject of the petition.

(b) A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to this chapter shall prohibit the subject of the petition from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving, or attempting to purchase or receive, a firearm or ammunition, and shall expire 21 days from the date the order is issued.


Thus this is less then a "Clear and present danger to oneself or others" which is the test to commit someone but how much less is "an immediate and present danger of causing personal injury to himself, herself, or another"?

To a degree this is flushed out by the following:

18150. (b)(1)

The subject of the petition poses a significant danger, in the near future, of personal injury to himself, herself, or another by having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm as determined by considering the factors listed in Section 18155.


That leads us to 18155:

18155. (a) (1) The court, before issuing an ex parte gun violence restraining order, shall examine on oath, the petitioner and any witness the petitioner may produce.

(2) In lieu of examining the petitioner and any witness the petitioner may produce, the court may require the petitioner and any witness to submit a written affidavit signed under oath.

(b) (1) In determining whether grounds for a gun violence restraining order exist, the court shall consider all evidence of the following:

(A) A recent threat of violence or act of violence by the subject of the petition directed toward another.

(B) A recent threat of violence or act of violence by the subject of the petition directed toward himself or herself.

(C) A violation of an emergency protective order issued pursuant to Section 646.91 or Part 3 (commencing with Section 6240) of Division 10 of the Family Code that is in effect at the time the court is considering the petition.

(D) A recent violation of an unexpired protective order issued pursuant to Part 4 (commencing with Section 6300) of Division 10 of the Family Code, Section 136.2, Section 527.6 of the Code of Civil Procedure, or Section 213.5 or 15657.03 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.

(E) A conviction for any offense listed in Section 29805.

(F) A pattern of violent acts or violent threats within the past 12 months, including, but not limited to, threats of violence or acts of violence by the subject of the petition directed toward himself, herself, or another.

(2) In determining whether grounds for a gun violence restraining order exist, the court may consider any other evidence of an increased risk for violence, including, but not limited to, evidence of any of the following:

(A) The unlawful and reckless use, display, or brandishing of a firearm by the subject of the petition.

(B) The history of use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force by the subject of the petition against another person.

(C) Any prior arrest of the subject of the petition for a felony offense.

(D) Any history of a violation by the subject of the petition of an emergency protective order issued pursuant to Section 646.91 or Part 3 (commencing with Section 6240) of Division 10 of the Family Code.

(E) Any history of a violation by the subject of the petition of a protective order issued pursuant to Part 4 (commencing with Section 6300) of Division 10 of the Family Code, Section 136.2, Section 527.6 of the Code of Civil Procedure, or Section 213.5 or 15657.03 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.

(F) Documentary evidence, including, but not limited to, police reports and records of convictions, of either recent criminal offenses by the subject of the petition that involve controlled substances or alcohol or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol by the subject of the petition.

(G) Evidence of recent acquisition of firearms, ammunition, or other deadly weapons.

(3) For the purposes of this subdivision, "recent" means within the six months prior to the date the petition was filed.

(c) If the court determines that there grounds to issue an ex parte gun violence restraining order exist, it shall issue an ex parte gun violence restraining order that prohibits the subject of
the petition from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving, or attempting to purchase or receive, a firearm or ammunition, and expires no later than 21 days from the date of the order.



I see the above as an attempt to work around the issue of the person NOT doing anything he can be committed for, but at the same time restrict a person with mental problems from having a weapon. The problem is HOW is this consistent with the concept that we are innocent until proven guilty AND that we are competent until shown to be incompetent? It is an attempt to work around that problem, but an attempt I suspect will fail. Again IGNORING the right to bear arms argument, how is this different from declaring someone incompetent? No one is arguing that an incompetent person CAN possess a firearm, but the above is saying a COMPETENT person can NOT possess a firearm under certain conditions that shows he is less then Competent but is still Competent?

Competency is a very low threshold, it is knowing what one owns and NOT a danger to themselves or others. A Seven year old can be "Competent". The Common Law Rule was were you as competent as a typical 14 year old? (This rule has changed, state by state, but 18 is the age one is assumed to be competent). Competency is a very low standard, but it is the standard that permit people to cross state lines, enter into contracts, get abortions, seek medical care and even enlist. Yet such a person can NOT own a firearm that "More Competent" people can?

Thus I have problems with this statute, it is an attempt to change competency law without changing competence law. The better approach would have been to say one is INCOMPETENT if after a hearing the above was found. The problem with that approach then you have to name a guardian and it appears the Legislature did not want to do that for that costs money.

Think about it, if someone can NOT be trusted to own a firearm, should he or she be trusted to know when to sell her or his home? Cross State Lines? Get a Credit Card? Yes, such a person will harm less people by obtaining credit cards, but if he or she can NOT be trusted with a Firearm, should they be trusted with a Car, or Credit Cards?

Maybe the courts will restrict this so much that it becomes meaningless (i.e. rule the test is one of Competency for the terms are so close as to no difference in their effect, thus this law only affect people who are clearly incompetent, and thus come under the laws governing competency not this law, i.e. this law becomes a dead letter).



The complete bill can be found at the following cite:

http://legiscan.com/CA/bill/AB1014/2013

Below is the actual changes in the law:

1524. (a) A search warrant may be issued upon any of the following grounds:

(14) Beginning January 1, 2016, the property or things to be seized are firearms or ammunition or both that are owned by, in the possession of, or in the custody or control of a person who is the subject of a gun violence restraining order that has been issued pursuant to Division 3.2 (commencing with Section 18100) of Title 2 of Part 6, if a prohibited firearm or ammunition or both is possessed, owned, in the custody of, or controlled by a person against whom a gun violence restraining order has been issued, the person has been lawfully served with that order, and the person has failed to relinquish the firearm as required by law.

DIVISION 3.2. Gun Violence Restraining Orders

CHAPTER 1. GENERAL

18100. A gun violence restraining order is an order, in writing, signed by the court, prohibiting and enjoining a named person from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving any firearms or ammunition. This division establishes a civil restraining order process to accomplish that purpose.

18105. The Judicial Council shall prescribe the form of the petitions and orders and any other documents, and shall promulgate any rules of court, necessary to implement this division.

18107. A petition for a gun violence restraining order shall describe the number, types, and locations of any firearms and ammunition presently believed by the petitioner to be possessed or controlled by the subject of the petition.

18109. Nothing in this division shall be interpreted to require a law enforcement agency or a law enforcement officer to seek a gun violence restraining order in any case, including, but not limited to, in a case in which the agency or officer concludes, after investigation, that the criteria for issuance of a gun violence restraining order are not satisfied.

18110. Prior to a hearing on the issuance, renewal, or termination of an order under Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 18150) or Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 18170), the court shall ensure that a search as described in subdivision (a) of Section 6306 of the Family Code is conducted. After issuing its ruling, the court shall provide the advisement described in subdivision (c) of Section 6306 of the Family Code and shall keep information obtained from a search conducted pursuant to this section confidential in accordance with subdivision (d) of Section 6306 of the Family Code.

18115. (a) The court shall notify the Department of Justice when a gun violence restraining order has been issued or renewed underthis division no later than one court day after issuing or renewing the order.

(b) The court shall notify the Department of Justice when a gun violence restraining order has been dissolved or terminated under this division no later than five court days after dissolving or terminating the order. Upon receipt of either a notice of dissolution or a notice of termination of a gun violence restraining order, the Department of Justice shall, within 15 days, note document the updated status of any order issued under this division.

(c) The notices required to be submitted to the Department of Justice pursuant to this section shall be submitted in an electronic format, in a manner prescribed by the department.

(d) When notifying the Department of Justice pursuant to subdivision (a) or (b), the court shall indicate in the notice whether the person subject to the gun violence restraining order was
present in court to be informed of the contents of the order or if the person failed to appear. The person's presence in court shall constitute proof of service of notice of the terms of the order.

(e) (1) Within one business day of service, a law enforcement officer who served a gun violence restraining order shall submit the proof of service directly into the California Restraining and Protective Order System, including his or her name and law enforcement agency, and shall transmit the original proof of service form to the issuing court.

(2) Within one business day of receipt of proof of service by a person other than a law enforcement officer, the clerk of the court shall submit the proof of service of a gun violence restraining order directly into the California Restraining and Protective Order System, including the name of the person who served the order. If the court is unable to provide this notification to the Department of Justice by electronic transmission, the court shall, within one business day of receipt, transmit a copy of the proof of service to a local law enforcement agency. The local law enforcement agency shall submit the proof of service directly into the California Restraining and Protective Order System within one business day of receipt from the court.

18120. (a) A person subject to a gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to this division shall not have in his or her custody or control, own, purchase, possess, or receive any firearms or ammunition while that order is in effect.

(b) (1) Upon issuance of a gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to this division, the court shall order the restrained person to surrender to the local law enforcement agency all firearms and ammunition in the restrained person's custody or control, or which the restrained person possesses or owns.

(2) The surrender ordered pursuant to paragraph (1) shall occur by immediately surrendering all firearms and ammunition in a safe manner, upon request of any law enforcement officer, to the control of the officer, after being served with the restraining order. A law enforcement officer serving a gun violence restraining order that indicates that the restrained person possesses any firearms or ammunition shall request that all firearms and ammunition be immediately surrendered. Alternatively, if no request is made by a law enforcement officer, the surrender shall occur within 24 hours of being served with the order, by either surrendering all firearms and ammunition in a safe manner to the control of the local law enforcement agency, or by selling all firearms and ammunition to a licensed gun dealer, as specified in Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2 of Division 6 of Title 4 of Part 6 of the Penal Code. The law enforcement officer or licensed gun dealer taking possession of any firearms or ammunition pursuant to this subdivision shall issue a receipt to the person surrendering the firearm or firearms or ammunition or both at the time of surrender. A person ordered to surrender all firearms and ammunition pursuant to this subdivision shall, within 48 hours after being served with the order, do both of the following:

(A) File with the court that issued the gun violence restraining order the original receipt showing all firearms and ammunition have been surrendered to a local law enforcement agency or sold to a licensed gun dealer. Failure to timely file a receipt shall constitute a violation of the restraining order.

(B) File a copy of the receipt described in subparagraph (A) with the law enforcement agency that served the gun violence restraining order. Failure to timely file a copy of the receipt shall constitute a violation of the restraining order.

(c) (1) Any firearms or ammunition surrendered to a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency pursuant to this section shall be retained by the law enforcement agency until the expiration of any gun violence restraining order that has been issued against the restrained person. Upon expiration of any order, any firearms or ammunition shall be returned to the restrained person in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 33850) of Division 11 of Title 4. Firearms or ammunition that are not claimed are subject to the requirements of Section 34000.

(2) A restrained person who owns any firearms or ammunition that are in the custody of a law enforcement agency pursuant to this section and who does not wish to have the firearm or firearms or ammunition returned is entitled to sell or transfer title of any firearms or ammunition to a licensed dealer provided that the firearm or firearms or ammunition are otherwise legal to own or possess and the restrained person otherwise has right to title of the firearm or firearms or ammunition.

(d) If a person other than the restrained person claims title to any firearms or ammunition surrendered pursuant to this section, and he or she is determined by the law enforcement agency to be the lawful owner of the firearm or firearms or ammunition, the firearm or firearms or ammunition shall be returned to him or her pursuant to Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 33850) of Division 11 of Title 4.

18122. This division shall become operative on January 1, 2016.

CHAPTER 2. TEMPORARY EMERGENCY GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER

18125. (a) A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order may be issued on an ex parte basis only if a law enforcement officer asserts, and a judicial officer finds, that there is reasonable cause to believe both of the following:

(1) The subject of the petition poses an immediate and present danger of causing personal injury to himself, herself, or another by having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm.

(2) A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order is necessary to prevent personal injury to the subject of the petition or another because less restrictive alternatives either have been tried and found to be ineffective, or have been determined to be inadequate or inappropriate for the circumstances of the subject of the petition.

(b) A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to this chapter shall prohibit the subject of the petition from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving, or attempting to purchase or receive, a firearm or ammunition, and shall expire 21 days from the date the order is issued.

18130. A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order is valid only if it is issued by a judicial officer after making the findings required by Section 18125 and pursuant to a specific request by a law enforcement officer.

18135. A temporary emergency gun violence restraining order issued under this chapter shall include all of the following:

(a) A statement of the grounds supporting the issuance of the order.

(b) The date and time the order expires.

(c) The address of the superior court for the county in which the restrained party resides.

(d) The following statement:

"To the restrained person: This order will last until the date and time noted above. You are required to surrender all firearms and ammunition that you own or possess in accordance with Section 18120 of the Penal Code and you may not have in your custody or control, own, purchase, possess, or receive, or attempt to purchase or receive a firearm or ammunition, while this order is in effect. However, a more permanent gun violence restraining order may be obtained from the court. You may seek the advice of an attorney as to any matter connected with the order. The attorney should be consulted promptly so that the attorney may assist you in any matter connected with the order."

18140. A law enforcement officer who requests a temporary emergency gun violence restraining order shall do all of the following:

(a) If the order is obtained orally, memorialize the order of the court on the form approved by the Judicial Council.

(b) Serve the order on the restrained person, if the restrained person can reasonably be located.

(c) File a copy of the order with the court as soon as practicable after issuance.

(d) Have the order entered into the computer database system for protective and restraining orders maintained by the Department of Justice.

18145. (a) (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), the petition for a temporary emergency gun violence restraining order shall be obtained by submitting a written petition to the court.

(2) If time and circumstances do not permit the submission of a written petition, a temporary emergency gun violence restraining order may be issued in accordance with the procedures for obtaining an oral search warrant described in Section 1526.

(b) The presiding judge of the superior court of each county shall designate at least one judge, commissioner, or referee who shall be reasonably available to issue temporary emergency gun violence restraining orders when the court is not in session.

CHAPTER 3. EX PARTE GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER


18150. (a) (1) An immediate family member of a person or a law enforcement officer may file a petition requesting that the court issue an ex parte gun violence restraining order enjoining the subject of the petition from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm or ammunition.

(2) For purposes of this subdivision, "immediate family member" has the same meaning as in paragraph (3) of subdivision (b) of Section 422.4.

(b) A court may issue an ex parte gun violence restraining order if the petition, supported by an affidavit made in writing and signed by the petitioner under oath, or an oral statement taken pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 18155, and any additional information provided to the court shows that there is a substantial
likelihood that both of the following are true:

(1) The subject of the petition poses a significant danger, in the near future, of personal injury to himself, herself, or another by having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm as determined by considering the factors listed in Section 18155.

(2) An ex parte gun violence restraining order is necessary to prevent personal injury to the subject of the petition or another because less restrictive alternatives either have been tried and found to be ineffective, or are inadequate or inappropriate for the circumstances of the subject of the petition.

(c) An affidavit supporting a petition for the issuance of an ex parte gun violence restraining order shall set forth the facts tending to establish the grounds of the petition, or the reason for
believing that they exist.

(d) An ex parte order under this chapter shall be issued or denied on the same day that the petition is submitted to the court, unless the petition is filed too late in the day to permit effective review, in which case the order shall be issued or denied on the next day of judicial business in sufficient time for the order to be filed that day with the clerk of the court.

18155. (a) (1) The court, before issuing an ex parte gun violence restraining order, shall examine on oath, the petitioner and any witness the petitioner may produce.

(2) In lieu of examining the petitioner and any witness the petitioner may produce, the court may require the petitioner and any witness to submit a written affidavit signed under oath.

(b) (1) In determining whether grounds for a gun violence restraining order exist, the court shall consider all evidence of the following:

(A) A recent threat of violence or act of violence by the subject of the petition directed toward another.

(B) A recent threat of violence or act of violence by the subject of the petition directed toward himself or herself.

(C) A violation of an emergency protective order issued pursuant to Section 646.91 or Part 3 (commencing with Section 6240) of Division 10 of the Family Code that is in effect at the time the court is considering the petition.

(D) A recent violation of an unexpired protective order issued pursuant to Part 4 (commencing with Section 6300) of Division 10 of the Family Code, Section 136.2, Section 527.6 of the Code of Civil Procedure, or Section 213.5 or 15657.03 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.

(E) A conviction for any offense listed in Section 29805.

(F) A pattern of violent acts or violent threats within the past 12 months, including, but not limited to, threats of violence or acts of violence by the subject of the petition directed toward himself, herself, or another.

(2) In determining whether grounds for a gun violence restraining order exist, the court may consider any other evidence of an increased risk for violence, including, but not limited to, evidence of any of the following:

(A) The unlawful and reckless use, display, or brandishing of a firearm by the subject of the petition.

(B) The history of use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force by the subject of the petition against another person.

(C) Any prior arrest of the subject of the petition for a felony offense.

(D) Any history of a violation by the subject of the petition of an emergency protective order issued pursuant to Section 646.91 or Part 3 (commencing with Section 6240) of Division 10 of the Family Code.

(E) Any history of a violation by the subject of the petition of a protective order issued pursuant to Part 4 (commencing with Section 6300) of Division 10 of the Family Code, Section 136.2, Section 527.6 of the Code of Civil Procedure, or Section 213.5 or 15657.03 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.

(F) Documentary evidence, including, but not limited to, police reports and records of convictions, of either recent criminal offenses by the subject of the petition that involve controlled substances or alcohol or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol by the subject of the petition.

(G) Evidence of recent acquisition of firearms, ammunition, or other deadly weapons.

(3) For the purposes of this subdivision, "recent" means within the six months prior to the date the petition was filed.

(c) If the court determines that there grounds to issue an ex parte gun violence restraining order exist, it shall issue an ex parte gun violence restraining order that prohibits the subject of
the petition from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving, or attempting to purchase or receive, a firearm or ammunition, and expires no later than 21 days from the date of the order.

18160. (a) An ex parte gun violence restraining order issued under this chapter shall include all of the following:

(1) A statement of the grounds supporting the issuance of the order.

(2) The date and time the order expires.

(3) The address of the superior court in which any responsive pleading should be filed.

(4) The date and time of the scheduled hearing.

(5) The following statement:

"To the restrained person: This order is valid until the expiration date and time noted above. You are required to surrender all firearms and ammunition that you own or possess in accordance with Section 18120 of the Penal Code and you may not have in your custody or control, own, purchase, possess, or receive, or attempt to purchase or receive a firearm or ammunition, while this order is in effect. A hearing will be held on the date and at the time noted above to determine if a more permanent gun violence restraining order should be issued. Failure to appear at that hearing may result in a court making an order against you that is valid for a year. You may seek the advice of an attorney as to any matter connected with the order. The attorney should be consulted promptly so that the attorney may assist you in any matter connected with the order."

(b) (1) An ex parte gun violence restraining order shall be personally served on the restrained person by a law enforcement officer, or any person who is at least 18 years of age and not a party to the action, as provided in Section 414.10 of the Code of Civil Procedure, if the restrained person can reasonably be located.

(2) When serving a gun violence restraining order, a law enforcement officer shall inform the restrained person of the hearing scheduled pursuant to Section 18165.

18165. Within 21 days after the date on the order, before the court that issued the order or another court in the same jurisdiction, the court shall hold a hearing pursuant to Section 18175 to determine if a gun violence restraining order should be issued under Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 18170).

CHAPTER 4. GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER ISSUED AFTER NOTICE AND HEARING


18170. (a) An immediate family member of a person or a law enforcement officer may request that a court, after notice and a hearing, issue a gun violence restraining order enjoining the subject of the petition from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm or ammunition for a period of one year.

(b) For purposes of this subdivision, "immediate family member" has the same meaning as in paragraph (3) of subdivision (b) of Section 422.4.

18175. (a) In determining whether to issue a gun violence restraining order under this chapter, the court shall consider evidence of the facts identified in paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 18155 and may consider any other evidence of an increased risk for violence, including, but not limited to, evidence of the facts identified in paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 18155.

(b) At the hearing, the petitioner shall have the burden of proving, by clear and convincing evidence, that both of the following are true:

(1) The subject of the petition, or a person subject to an ex parte gun violence restraining order, as applicable, poses a significant danger of personal injury to himself, herself, or another
by having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm or ammunition.

(2) A gun violence restraining order is necessary to prevent personal injury to the subject of the petition, or the person subject to an ex parte gun violence restraining order, as applicable, or another because less restrictive alternatives either have been tried and found to be ineffective, or are inadequate or inappropriate for the circumstances of the subject of the petition, or the person subject to an ex parte gun violence restraining order, as applicable.

(c) (1) If the court finds that there is clear and convincing evidence to issue a gun violence restraining order, the court shall issue a gun violence restraining order that prohibits the subject of the petition from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving, or attempting to purchase or receive, a firearm or ammunition.

(2) If the court finds that there is not clear and convincing evidence to support the issuance of a gun violence restraining order, the court shall dissolve any temporary emergency or ex parte gun violence restraining order then in effect.

(d) The gun violence restraining order issued under this chapter shall have a duration of one year, subject to termination by further order of the court at a hearing held pursuant to Section 18185 and renewal by further order of the court pursuant to Section 18190.

18180. (a) A gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to this chapter shall include all of the following:
(1) A statement of the grounds supporting the issuance of the order.

(2) The date and time the order expires.

(3) The address of the superior court for the county in which the restrained party resides.

(4) The following statement:

"To the restrained person: This order will last until the date and time noted above. If you have not done so already, you must surrender all firearms and ammunition that you own or possess in accordance with Section 18120 of the Penal Code. You may not have in your custody or control, own, purchase, possess, or receive, or attempt to purchase or receive a firearm or ammunition, while this order is in effect. Pursuant to Section 18185, you have the right to request one hearing to terminate this order at any time during its effective period. You may seek the advice of an attorney as to any matter connected with the order."

(b) When the court issues a gun violence restraining order under this chapter, the court shall inform the restrained person that he or she is entitled to one hearing to request a termination of the order, pursuant to Section 18185, and shall provide the restrained person with a form to request a hearing.

18185. (a) A person subject to a gun violence restraining order issued under this chapter may submit one written request at any time during the effective period of the order for a hearing to terminate the order.

(b) If the court finds after the hearing that there is no longer clear and convincing evidence to believe that paragraphs (1) and (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 18175 are true, the court shall terminate the order.

18190. (a) (1) An immediate family member of a restrained person or a law enforcement officer may request a renewal of a gun violence restraining order at any time within the three months before the expiration of a gun violence restraining order.

(2) For purposes of this subdivision, "immediate family member" has the same meaning as in paragraph (3) of subdivision (b) of Section 422.4.

(b) A court may, after notice and a hearing, renew a gun violence restraining order issued under this chapter if the petitioner proves, by clear and convincing evidence, that paragraphs (1) and (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 18175 continue to be true.

(c) In determining whether to renew a gun violence restraining order issued under this chapter, the court shall consider evidence of the facts identified in paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 18155 and any other evidence of an increased risk for violence, including, but not limited to, evidence of any of the facts identified in paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 18155.

(d) At the hearing, the petitioner shall have the burden of proving, by clear and convincing evidence, that paragraphs (1) and (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 18175 are true.

(e) If the renewal petition is supported by clear and convincing evidence, the court shall renew the gun violence restraining order issued under this chapter.

(f) The renewal of a gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to this section shall have a duration of one year, subject to termination by further order of the court at a hearing held pursuant to Section 18185 and further renewal by further order of the court pursuant to this section.

(g) A gun violence restraining order renewed pursuant to this section shall include the information identified in subdivision (a) of Section 18180.

18195. Any hearing held pursuant to this chapter may be continued upon a showing of good cause. Any existing order issued pursuant to this division shall remain in full force and effect during the period of continuance.

18197. If a person subject to a gun violence restraining order issued or renewed pursuant to this chapter was not present in court at the time the order was issued or renewed, the gun violence restraining order shall be personally served on the restrained person by a law enforcement officer or any person who is at least 18 years of age and not a party to the action, as provided in Section 414.10 of the Code of Civil Procedure, if the restrained person can reasonably be located.

CHAPTER 5. OFFENSES


18200. Every person who files a petition for an ex parte gun violence restraining order pursuant to Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 18150) or a gun violence restraining order issued after notice and a hearing pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 18170), knowing the information in the petition to be false or with the intent to harass, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

18205. Every person who owns or possesses a firearm or ammunition with knowledge that he or she is prohibited from doing so by a temporary emergency gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 18125), an ex parte gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 18150), or a gun violence restraining order issued after notice and a hearing issued pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 18170), is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be prohibited from having in his or her custody or control, owning, purchasing, possessing, or receiving, or attempting to purchase or receive, a firearm or ammunition for a five-year period, to commence upon the expiration of the existing gun violence restraining order.

SEC. 4. Section 18250 of the Penal Code is amended to read:

18250. (a) If any of the following persons is at the scene of a domestic violence incident involving a threat to human life or a physical assault, or is serving a protective order as defined in Section 6218 of the Family Code, that person shall take temporary custody of any firearm or other deadly weapon in plain sight or discovered pursuant to a consensual or other lawful search as necessary for the protection of the peace officer or other persons present:

(1) A sheriff, undersheriff, deputy sheriff, marshal, deputy marshal, or police officer of a city, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.1.

(2) A peace officer of the Department of the California Highway Patrol, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.2.

(3) A member of the University of California Police Department, as defined in subdivision (b) of Section 830.2.

(4) An officer listed in Section 830.6, while acting in the course and scope of the officer's employment as a peace officer.

(5) A member of a California State University Police Department, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 830.2.

(6) A peace officer of the Department of Parks and Recreation, as defined in subdivision (f) of Section 830.2.

(7) A peace officer, as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 830.31.

(8) A peace officer, as defined in subdivisions (a) and (b) of Section 830.32.

(9) A peace officer, as defined in Section 830.5.

(b) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2016, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2016, deletes or extends that date.

SEC. 4.5. Section 18250 of the Penal Code is amended to read:

18250. (a) If any of the following persons is at the scene of a domestic violence incident involving a threat to human life or a physical assault, is serving a protective order as defined in Section 6218 of the Family Code, or is serving a gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to Division 3.2 (commencing with Section 18100), that person shall take temporary custody of any firearm or other deadly weapon in plain sight or discovered pursuant to a consensual or other lawful search as necessary for the protection of the peace officer or other persons present:

(1) A sheriff, undersheriff, deputy sheriff, marshal, deputy marshal, or police officer of a city, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.1.

(2) A peace officer of the Department of the California Highway Patrol, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.2.

(3) A member of the University of California Police Department, as defined in subdivision (b) of Section 830.2.

(4) An officer listed in Section 830.6, while acting in the course and scope of the officer's employment as a peace officer.

(5) A member of a California State University Police Department, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 830.2.

(6) A peace officer of the Department of Parks and Recreation, as defined in subdivision (f) of Section 830.2.

(7) A peace officer, as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 830.31.

(8) A peace officer, as defined in subdivisions (a) and (b) of Section 830.32.

(9) A peace officer, as defined in Section 830.5.

(10) A sworn member of the Department of Justice who is a peace officer, as defined in Section 830.1.

(11) A member of the San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit District Police Department, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.33.

(b) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2016, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2016, deletes or extends that date.

SEC. 5. Section 18250 is added to the Penal Code, to read:

18250. (a) If any of the following persons is at the scene of a domestic violence incident involving a threat to human life or a physical assault, is serving a protective order as defined in Section 6218 of the Family Code, or is serving a gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to Division 3.2 (commencing with Section 18100), that person shall take temporary custody of any firearm or other deadly weapon in plain sight or discovered pursuant to a consensual or other lawful search as necessary for the protection of the peace officer or other persons present:

(1) A sheriff, undersheriff, deputy sheriff, marshal, deputy marshal, or police officer of a city, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.1.

(2) A peace officer of the Department of the California Highway Patrol, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.2.

(3) A member of the University of California Police Department, as defined in subdivision (b) of Section 830.2.

(4) An officer listed in Section 830.6, while acting in the course and scope of the officer's employment as a peace officer.

(5) A member of a California State University Police Department, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 830.2.

(6) A peace officer of the Department of Parks and Recreation, as defined in subdivision (f) of Section 830.2.

(7) A peace officer, as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 830.31.

(8) A peace officer, as defined in subdivisions (a) and (b) of Section 830.32.

(9) A peace officer, as defined in Section 830.5.

(10) A sworn member of the Department of Justice who is a peace officer, as defined in Section 830.1.

(b) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2016.

SEC. 5.5. Section 18250 is added to the Penal Code, to read:

18250. (a) If any of the following persons is at the scene of a domestic violence incident involving a threat to human life or a physical assault, is serving a protective order as defined in Section 6218 of the Family Code, or is serving a gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to Division 3.2 (commencing with Section 18100), that person shall take temporary custody of any firearm or other deadly weapon in plain sight or discovered pursuant to a consensual or other lawful search as necessary for the protection of the peace officer or other persons present:

(1) A sheriff, undersheriff, deputy sheriff, marshal, deputy marshal, or police officer of a city, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.1.

(2) A peace officer of the Department of the California Highway Patrol, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.2.

(3) A member of the University of California Police Department, as defined in subdivision (b) of Section 830.2.

(4) An officer listed in Section 830.6, while acting in the course and scope of the officer's employment as a peace officer.

(5) A member of a California State University Police Department,as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 830.2.

(6) A peace officer of the Department of Parks and Recreation, as defined in subdivision (f) of Section 830.2.

(7) A peace officer, as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 830.31.

(8) A peace officer, as defined in subdivisions (a) and (b) of Section 830.32.

(9) A peace officer, as defined in Section 830.5.

(10) A sworn member of the Department of Justice who is a peace officer, as defined in Section 830.1.

(11) A member of the San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit District Police Department, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 830.33.

(b) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2016.

SEC. 6. Section 8105 of the Welfare and Institutions Code is amended to read:

8105. (a) The Department of Justice shall request each public and private mental hospital, sanitarium, and institution to submit to the department information the department deems necessary to identify those persons who are subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (a) of Section 8100, in order to carry out its duties in relation to firearms, destructive devices, and explosives.

(b) Upon request of the Department of Justice pursuant to subdivision (a), each public and private mental hospital, sanitarium, and institution shall submit to the department information the department deems necessary to identify those persons who are subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (a) of Section 8100, in order to carry out its duties in relation to firearms, destructive devices, and explosives.

(c) A licensed psychotherapist shall report to a local law enforcement agency, within 24 hours, in a manner prescribed by the Department of Justice, the identity of a person subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (b) of Section 8100. Upon receipt of the report, the local law enforcement agency, on a form prescribed by the Department of Justice, shall notify the department electronically, within 24 hours, in a manner prescribed by the department, of the person who is subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (b) of Section 8100.

(d) All information provided to the Department of Justice pursuant to this section shall be kept confidential, separate, and apart from all other records maintained by the department. The information provided to the Department of Justice pursuant to this section shall be used only for any of the following purposes:

(1) By the department to determine eligibility of a person to acquire, carry, or possess firearms, destructive devices, or explosives.

(2) For the purposes of the court proceedings described in subdivision (b) of Section 8100, to determine the eligibility of the person who is bringing the petition pursuant to paragraph (3) of
subdivision (b) of Section 8100.

(3) To determine the eligibility of a person to acquire, carry, or possess firearms, destructive devices, or explosives who is the subject of a criminal investigation, if a part of the criminal investigation involves the acquisition, carrying, or possession of firearms, explosives, or destructive devices by that person.

(e) Reports shall not be required or requested under this section if the same person has been previously reported pursuant to Section 8103 or 8104.

(f) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2016, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2016, deletes or extends that date.

SEC. 7. Section 8105 is added to the Welfare and Institutions Code, to read:

8105. (a) The Department of Justice shall request each public and private mental hospital, sanitarium, and institution to submit to the department information the department deems necessary to identify those persons who are subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (a) of Section 8100, in order to carry out its duties in relation to firearms, destructive devices, and explosives.

(b) Upon request of the Department of Justice pursuant to subdivision (a), each public and private mental hospital, sanitarium, and institution shall submit to the department information the department deems necessary to identify those persons who are subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (a) of Section 8100, in order to carry out its duties in relation to firearms, destructive devices, and explosives.

(c) A licensed psychotherapist shall report to a local law enforcement agency, within 24 hours, in a manner prescribed by the Department of Justice, the identity of a person subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (b) of Section 8100. Upon receipt of the report, the local law enforcement agency, on a form prescribed by the Department of Justice, shall notify the department electronically, within 24 hours, in a manner prescribed by the department, of the person who is subject to the prohibition specified by subdivision (b) of Section 8100.

(d) All information provided to the Department of Justice pursuant to this section shall be kept confidential, separate, and apart from all other records maintained by the department. The information provided to the Department of Justice pursuant to this section shall be used only for any of the following purposes:

(1) By the department to determine eligibility of a person to acquire, carry, or possess firearms, destructive devices, or explosives.

(2) For the purposes of the court proceedings described in subdivision (b) of Section 8100, to determine the eligibility of the person who is bringing the petition pursuant to paragraph (3) of subdivision (b) of Section 8100.

(3) To determine the eligibility of a person to acquire, carry, or possess firearms, destructive devices, or explosives who is the subject of a criminal investigation, or who is the subject of a petition for the issuance of a gun violence restraining order issued pursuant to Division 3.2 (commencing with Section 18100) of Title 2 of Part 6 of the Penal Code, if a part of the investigation involves the acquisition, carrying, or possession of firearms, explosives, or destructive devices by that person.

(e) Reports shall not be required or requested under this section if the same person has been previously reported pursuant to Section 8103 or 8104.

(f) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2016.

SEC. 8. The Legislature finds and declares that Section 3 of this act, which adds Section 18110 to the Penal Code, imposes a limitation on the public's right of access to the meetings of public bodies or the writings of public officials and agencies within the meaning of Section 3 of Article I of the California Constitution. Pursuant to that constitutional provision, the Legislature makes the following findings to demonstrate the interest protected by this limitation and the need for protecting that interest:

In order to protect the privacy rights of a person subject to a search pursuant to Section 18110 of the Penal Code.


SEC. 9. Sections 4.5 and 5.5 of this bill incorporate amendments to Section 18250 of the Penal Code proposed by both this bill and Senate Bill 1154. They shall only become operative if (1) both bills are enacted and become effective on or before January 1, 2015, (2) each bill amends Section 18250 of the Penal Code, and (3) this bill is enacted after Senate Bill 1154, in which case Sections 4 and 5 of this bill shall not become operative.

SEC. 10. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution for certain costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school district because, in that regard, this act creates a new crime or infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution.

However, if the Commission on State Mandates determines that this act contains other costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to local agencies and school districts for those costs shall be made pursuant to Part 7 (commencing with Section 17500) of Division 4 of Title 2 of the Government Code.
It's as good a law as each judge who makes a determination. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #1
Yeah, I'll err on the side of the safety of a life or 2 or 6... Tikki Oct 2014 #2
Seems to me that drugs with the caution "do not operate machinery" is reason enough Hoyt Oct 2014 #3
The warning is "do not operate heavy machinery until you know the effects of this drug". NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #5
Heck, there are millions of supposedly responsible gun owners on drugs that alter judgement. Hoyt Oct 2014 #14
You don't understand responsibility. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #46
Because, gunners won't do it. Millions of people on meds with gunz are a threat, Hoyt Oct 2014 #47
And none of your examples had to do with meds. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #48
Sorry, but a very large percentage of those arming up are also racists, Bundy ranch militia Hoyt Oct 2014 #52
Statistics would demonstrate that to be false. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #54
The majority of gun owners, particulary those who have more than a hunting rifle and Hoyt Oct 2014 #55
A gun store or show is hardly in the same category as a guns in public rally. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #57
So what? beevul Oct 2014 #78
Hmmmm I was on a bunch of pain killers after a surgery... Adrahil Oct 2014 #65
If you were a responsible gun owner, you would have locked them up and given key to someone else. Hoyt Oct 2014 #67
I didn't need to. I'm not an idiot. I locked them up and didn't use them. Adrahil Oct 2014 #68
Sounds good. Hopefully, you'll find over time that you really don't need all those gunz. Good luck Hoyt Oct 2014 #69
Thanks much, I hope so too! Adrahil Oct 2014 #70
Oh, I can appreciate antiques. My dad had a few. Enjoyed selling some like a 1870s Evans Repeater, Hoyt Oct 2014 #74
Don't you know guns and beer are as American as,...well,...guns and whiskey? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #9
Do we presently take away their car keys? nt hack89 Oct 2014 #12
Old folks, yes. We should take guns from anyone on drugs that alter judgement. Hoyt Oct 2014 #15
Why do we let younger people on judgement altering drugs keep their car keys? nt hack89 Oct 2014 #16
I think you will find that drugs like Prozac, Paxil, muscle relaxants, sleep aids, etc., may impact Hoyt Oct 2014 #17
We were talking about "operating machinery" hack89 Oct 2014 #18
You have a greater chance of getting killed by some yahoo with a Carry Permit, than an airplane. Hoyt Oct 2014 #21
So driving cars while taking those drugs is perfectly safe? hack89 Oct 2014 #22
At same time we take their gunz, we should take their keys. Hoyt Oct 2014 #24
And we should take away the keys of people without guns, correct? hack89 Oct 2014 #27
Your interlocutor is avoiding the question... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #34
He realizes what a ridiculous idea it is. hack89 Oct 2014 #35
And impose police state controls on OTC medications. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #45
because your car keys aren't a car CreekDog Oct 2014 #40
So we disable their cars so they can't be driven. hack89 Oct 2014 #41
Got mighty quiet when called out and has no answer Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #58
How about a mandatory big bouncy hamster ball for every human on earth... Oktober Oct 2014 #49
I wish we could convince gun nuts their fear of the boogeyman is irrational. Hoyt Oct 2014 #53
All the fear I hear about is coming from the anti-2nd side of the house... Oktober Oct 2014 #56
No, it's concern for the callous, often racist, bunch that are into gunz like the Bundy Hoyt Oct 2014 #59
Corner? Oktober Oct 2014 #62
Sorry, typo exacerbated by auto-correct. Hoyt Oct 2014 #63
Frankly, I don't think that's up to you. NT Adrahil Oct 2014 #66
Yeah but those don't effect ownershop of an aircraft.N/T beevul Oct 2014 #79
Out of curiosity lurch2 Oct 2014 #28
I am most concerned about folks like this carrying gunz while on such meds. Hoyt Oct 2014 #36
The Nugent One Is Classic hollowdweller Oct 2014 #37
+1. LMAO. And he's an NRA board member helping make policy. Hoyt Oct 2014 #38
You didn't answer the question lurch2 Oct 2014 #64
Showing off your segregated photo collection again, Hoyt? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #75
Gun nuts are rather racist. Check out NRA board members, attendees at gun shows, gun stores, etc. Hoyt Oct 2014 #76
You seem not have noticed a common characteristic of the "gun nuts" I showed friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #77
My interlocutor seems to have gone missing. Imagine my surprise... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #80
I posted about this earlier this evening. cui bono Oct 2014 #4
I wonder if someone will challenge it up to SCOTUS? Kablooie Oct 2014 #6
California makes headlines every day for liberal progress BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #7
Well, there's the old saying - "as California goes, so goes the nation." calimary Oct 2014 #29
We have not been living up to our potential BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #31
Gun nuts are gonna flip out,....thus proving they're nuts. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #8
You would be surprised beemer27 Oct 2014 #11
"If this law is used intelligently" Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #23
This is a good response BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #32
I don't see anything wrong with it. hollowdweller Oct 2014 #39
Exactly BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #43
As long as there is due process, a chance to rebut, and a restoration process, I'm good. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #10
This, I think, is what the laws will look like when AB1014 goes into effect Jan 2016: petronius Oct 2014 #19
Looks like a reasonable law. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #13
a good bill for a change. samsingh Oct 2014 #20
Not a bad law lurch2 Oct 2014 #25
Welcome to DU, lurch2! calimary Oct 2014 #30
Even gun owners should have no problem with this. A protection order should disarm the offender. marble falls Oct 2014 #26
Even better BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #33
My concern on this is just like in divorces, someone makes claims Big_Mike Oct 2014 #42
I'm all for this madokie Oct 2014 #44
What is the confiscation process? Oktober Oct 2014 #50
Doesn't go far enough gopiscrap Oct 2014 #51
What's your idea of far enough? GGJohn Oct 2014 #60
Total gun ban gopiscrap Oct 2014 #71
Thanks for the welcome GGJohn Oct 2014 #72
Thank-You Governor Brown For Taking The First Step In Legislating Gun Control! Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #61
Is this constitutional? Ignoring the Second, How about the right of someone to be an adult? happyslug Oct 2014 #73
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