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AtheistCrusader

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41. First off, it's not cores anymore.
Tue May 21, 2013, 07:56 PM
May 2013

It's corium. It's slag. You've seen the corium from Chernobyl, right? It cooled in place, looks like a frozen lava flow. (that that wasn't blown, burning, into the sky directly (something like 80% of the mass of the core))

That material is pretty much stuck in place. Most of it is still in the catchment. Again, the radiation of the corium itself will reveal the position of the mass of corium. If you know that the corium is spread beyond the containment, get your ass over to CNN and present your case, because there's no evidence of that in the public domain at this moment.

(If it didn't burn through 24-18 months ago, it's not going to.)

The radioactive material carried by the water from the containment is not equal to "cores have escaped the containment", period. You are using meanings for these terms you've made up in your own mind.

The fricking hits just keep coming, don't they? deutsey May 2013 #1
From the article "Tepco must perpetually pour water over the melted cores of reactors 1, 2, and 3... Poll_Blind May 2013 #2
Their worries are founded. Many have stopped buying products from Japan as well as from California socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #3
This is the kind of problem sulphurdunn May 2013 #4
+100 darkangel218 May 2013 #5
+101. closeupready May 2013 #13
+1000. Great point. Safetykitten May 2013 #69
You know, there are easier ways to boil water. Octafish May 2013 #6
Still stuck on that, eh? FBaggins May 2013 #8
Still stuck on defending the indefensible, I see. Octafish May 2013 #19
Nope. Just correcting the ridiculous. FBaggins May 2013 #25
Shows what you know. Octafish May 2013 #48
Seriously? That's the best that you could come up with? FBaggins May 2013 #49
It's more than you've come up with. Not a single article. No journal entries. No links. Nothing. Octafish May 2013 #53
Wrong. FBaggins May 2013 #57
Smear away, I don't care. Octafish May 2013 #73
Must disagree on one item: chknltl May 2013 #95
They do get depleated uranium sulphurdunn May 2013 #71
From reactors? No. FBaggins May 2013 #77
Still can't figure out why it can't be a closed system. FBaggins May 2013 #7
Yeah, it's easy to fix this thing right FBaggins? You always underestimated this disaster flamingdem May 2013 #9
Never copped to that ongoing miscalculation? FBaggins May 2013 #11
For starters you denied that there could be a meltdown flamingdem May 2013 #16
Can you back it up? FBaggins May 2013 #17
You are consistent. Here's one thing you wrote on March 11, 2011. Octafish May 2013 #22
Thanks for backing me up FBaggins May 2013 #23
Not backing you up. Those are your words, minimizing the danger and defending the indefensible. Octafish May 2013 #54
So did you not read them... or not understand them? FBaggins May 2013 #56
Plutonium is an issue. Octafish May 2013 #72
Time to come back to the real world Octafish. FBaggins May 2013 #74
The open-to the air fuel pool with all the debris and crap sticking out? That fuel pool? Octafish May 2013 #85
Yep. That's the one. FBaggins May 2013 #90
So what if they put a cover over it? The thing exploded sending plutonium fuel all over Honshu. Octafish May 2013 #99
How would you maintain the pumps, valves, etc? AtheistCrusader May 2013 #10
They're already pumping radioactive water. FBaggins May 2013 #12
I highly doubt AtheistCrusader May 2013 #14
Oh I agree... FBaggins May 2013 #15
Seriously? Nuclear waste is negligible? RobertEarl May 2013 #27
I live on the pacific rim. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #28
You're gonna stick with negligible, eh? RobertEarl May 2013 #29
I don't live apart from nature. Again, you seem incapable of understanding context. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #30
Of course RobertEarl May 2013 #31
Before I do, do we AtheistCrusader May 2013 #32
Not escaped containment? RobertEarl May 2013 #34
You have no idea what you are talking about. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #35
The cores melted through the containment RobertEarl May 2013 #37
You don't seem to know what the containment is. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #39
They melted through but they are contained? RobertEarl May 2013 #40
First off, it's not cores anymore. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #41
By the way, guess who else used the word 'negligible?' AtheistCrusader May 2013 #36
There you go RobertEarl May 2013 #80
Who 'we' white man? AtheistCrusader May 2013 #84
You are almost there RobertEarl May 2013 #89
While we are 'taking lessons' here you might want to know AtheistCrusader May 2013 #91
Closer, but still RobertEarl May 2013 #93
I do not support closing ALL reactors. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #94
Back to containment RobertEarl May 2013 #96
You are making assumptions. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #97
Well RobertEarl May 2013 #100
Another untrue statement. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #102
+++++ marions ghost May 2013 #55
You lost all credibility with anything related to nukes NickB79 May 2013 #51
Nonsense. FBaggins May 2013 #58
Hahaha RobertEarl May 2013 #63
You forget that you're one of the few things that nuke and anti-nuke here agree on. FBaggins May 2013 #64
Hahaha RobertEarl May 2013 #68
Thanks, nick. Great threads, eh? RobertEarl May 2013 #109
I asked a similar question a while back. sofa king May 2013 #20
That's definitely not the case. FBaggins May 2013 #24
Are you including direct contact, coolant and core? sofa king May 2013 #70
It was really in the context of your statement. FBaggins May 2013 #76
Understood. sofa king May 2013 #82
That's it RobertEarl May 2013 #83
Tritium is a form of helium and has likely infiltrated the water molecules. Sirveri May 2013 #103
Inleakage, from rain and ground water intrusion. Throckmorton May 2013 #47
That makes sense. FBaggins May 2013 #50
it is at sea level it will always flood! incoming radioactive isotopes to the west coast usa Sunlei May 2013 #18
The terrible, inevitable, ongoing Zoeisright May 2013 #21
Is there any way to treat the contaminated water at all? mwooldri May 2013 #26
Yes. Of almost all but the tritium. FBaggins May 2013 #33
That technology does not exist RobertEarl May 2013 #38
Except that the article in the OP says they're doing exactly that for everything but tritium caraher May 2013 #42
Sure, Tepco has it all figured out RobertEarl May 2013 #44
TEPCO is definitely sleazy caraher May 2013 #45
Gosh, you're right RobertEarl May 2013 #46
Reading comprehension fail caraher May 2013 #75
I see no reason to limit your post in that way. FBaggins May 2013 #78
I am not so proud RobertEarl May 2013 #79
What you are proud of is your concern, not mine. caraher May 2013 #81
Not proud of you RobertEarl May 2013 #86
The pollution is, and will continue to be produced by this damaged reactor complex regardless of AtheistCrusader May 2013 #87
to be fair, it is technically possible to get the tritium out of the water. Sirveri May 2013 #104
Sure caraher May 2013 #105
Probably much more expensive, but doing things right tends to cost money. Sirveri May 2013 #106
Good point caraher May 2013 #107
I used to be a nuke tech on my submarine. Sirveri May 2013 #108
K&R DeSwiss May 2013 #43
Does anyone here really think that contaminated water hasnt been already dumped into the ocean?? darkangel218 May 2013 #52
Of course there has. Lots of it RobertEarl May 2013 #59
All nuclear plants should be closed ASAP darkangel218 May 2013 #60
It is the only wise action RobertEarl May 2013 #61
People are ignorant darkangel218 May 2013 #62
Well, almost half of the represented material was dumped in a very uncontrolled manner in the early AtheistCrusader May 2013 #92
WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THE DANGERS?? darkangel218 May 2013 #65
When do they generally wake up? ... Wernothelpless May 2013 #66
Yah, and that will indeed be too late darkangel218 May 2013 #67
Yeah, I didn't take it. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #88
lol darkangel218 May 2013 #98
All nukes need to go CountAllVotes May 2013 #101
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