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25. Yes, it is grotesque. But so is strapping someone to a gurney and forcibly injecting him

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:23 AM

Apr 2013

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with lethal chemicals. The sad fact is that while the UK has the moral standing to object to sentences such as this, the USA, especially while Barack Obama has stated that he supports capital punishment, does not.

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Saudi Arabian paralysis sentence 'grotesque', says Foreign Office [View all] dipsydoodle Apr 2013 OP

This is what religion papa3times Apr 2013 #1

come on, what other religion does this kind of punishment? Not talking about 500 years ago, either. demosincebirth Apr 2013 #18

the problem is... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #42

Name any other religion that does this. 840high Apr 2013 #33

the Catholic Church SCantiGOP Apr 2013 #45

I think he/she may mean within modern times? demosincebirth Apr 2013 #54

Yes. Thank you. 840high Apr 2013 #66

You darn well know I 840high Apr 2013 #65

"Does" isn't the same thing as "did". Didn't Bill Clinton teach us about present tense "is" as 24601 Apr 2013 #70

"An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth"... xtraxritical Apr 2013 #48

That's what Islam goes by. What other religion chops off heads, hands, feet and demosincebirth Apr 2013 #55

It's in there. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #73

So this is common practice in every Muslim nation and society? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #76

+1 valerief Apr 2013 #34

What other religion? snagglepuss Apr 2013 #36

+2 idwiyo Apr 2013 #64

Lol, 1st reply. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #100

Demented culture tabasco Apr 2013 #2

WTF is wrong with this place? leftynyc Apr 2013 #3

Barbaric. drm604 Apr 2013 #4

What Barbaric about forcing someone to pay £177,000 in damages???? happyslug Apr 2013 #15

I hope you're being tongue in cheek leftynyc Apr 2013 #19

How do you want to force his family to pay the bill? happyslug Apr 2013 #71

So you think its acceptable that people with money go fr? That is disgusting. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #37

That's Islamic Tradition, if you can pay off the victim and the victim is satisfied, that's Justice happyslug Apr 2013 #69

WTFF? awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #43

You can't be serious. 840high Apr 2013 #67

Yes, I am serious, the Defendant should pay the One Million Riyals to the Victim's family happyslug Apr 2013 #72

What other barbaric traditions do you support? Socal31 Apr 2013 #75

I think people should PAY for the harm they did happyslug Apr 2013 #77

How else do you get the Criminal and Criminal's family to pay???? happyslug Apr 2013 #78

^^^ That's how. Iggo Apr 2013 #16

These idiots titanicdave Apr 2013 #5

I can see our own RW ultra religious freaks salivating at the prospect of implementing idwiyo Apr 2013 #6

Really? leftynyc Apr 2013 #13

Thank you for talking sense. iandhr Apr 2013 #14

Why, thank you! Without you pointing it to me I wouldn't have noticed that US justice system is idwiyo Apr 2013 #20

How about some proof leftynyc Apr 2013 #22

First, you should stop assuming that everyone who posts on DU is American or lives in US. idwiyo Apr 2013 #27

I'm comparing apples to apples leftynyc Apr 2013 #29

You are more than welcome to talk about whatever its is you want to talk about, but do leave it to idwiyo Apr 2013 #32

I'm very used to leftynyc Apr 2013 #41

US Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) ieoeja Apr 2013 #80

Nope - never saw that leftynyc Apr 2013 #87

Ah "moral relativism" Ash_F Apr 2013 #49

jaysus, that's ridiculous. cali Apr 2013 #38

Good day to you too. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #39

Bad analogy, it won't pass muster demosincebirth Apr 2013 #56

It's not "analogy". It is a statement. The mentality of "eye for an eye" is the same mentality. idwiyo Apr 2013 #58

WTF? blackspade Apr 2013 #7

eye for an eye still? Our " Oil Friends" lunasun Apr 2013 #8

'An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind' - Ghandi. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author drm604 Apr 2013 #9

Eye for an eye, so what would the United States get for all the Saudi's involved in 9/11? gordianot Apr 2013 #11

There they are, folks: our allies in the Mideast... KansDem Apr 2013 #12

No western trained doctor would do that....nt Evasporque Apr 2013 #17

"First, do no harm..." KamaAina Apr 2013 #40

If the sentence to pay £177,000 in damages "grotesque" why does UK Foreign office NOT pay it?? happyslug Apr 2013 #21

How about shaming the kingdom leftynyc Apr 2013 #23

Or Saudi Arabia could recognise basic human rights PaulaFarrell Apr 2013 #24

You know, civilization doesn't work like that muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #26

Yes, it is grotesque. But so is strapping someone to a gurney and forcibly injecting him Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #25

+1 I am happy that my government is trying to do something to stop that barbaric shit. Hopefully idwiyo Apr 2013 #31

eye for an eye in a blind society. nt Javaman Apr 2013 #28

isn't all justice based on the premise of the punishment DeadEyeDyck Apr 2013 #30

we "liberated" the wrong country SHRED Apr 2013 #35

I wish I could live long enough to see these fuckers run out of oil tabasco Apr 2013 #44

Have you ever seen "Syriana?" Brigid Apr 2013 #47

Do I want to see that? Posteritatis Apr 2013 #59

Oh yes, see it. Brigid Apr 2013 #60

On the list it goes, then! (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #62

Ta for the reminder dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #61

I need to watch it again too. Brigid Apr 2013 #63

Yes ---- tabasco Apr 2013 #74

Yup... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #51

But if they paralyze him, his wife will have to do all the driving Blandocyte Apr 2013 #46

And these people are among our "closest allies" /nt Ash_F Apr 2013 #50

Disgusting, but typical of medieval morons.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #52

Or you perfer the US method of Creditor enforcement, kicking people into the streets? happyslug Apr 2013 #81

Yes I do. At least I can still walk. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #82

So it is OK that you can make a person paralysised and NOT pay a penny? happyslug Apr 2013 #84

I do not believe in an eye for am eye.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #86

Neither does Islamic law, the issue is how do you force the perpetrator to pay? happyslug Apr 2013 #90

Sorry but that is utter bullshit... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #91

Yes, lets do, kicking kids out of their home in winter happyslug Apr 2013 #92

This is what happens obama2terms Apr 2013 #53

They are a sick country treestar Apr 2013 #57

Yes, unlike the US where it is possible to kick people out in the middle of winter WITHOUT clothing happyslug Apr 2013 #79

Well that may happen but the person treestar Apr 2013 #83

We are DISCUSSING US Law, there are NO such social programs happyslug Apr 2013 #85

What has that got to do with the horrible criminal penalties Saudi Arabia infliicts on people? nt treestar Apr 2013 #94

This is NOT a criminal punishment, it is a Civil Action. happyslug Apr 2013 #96

Criminal or civil, the idea of paralyzing someone treestar Apr 2013 #98

You prefer the American way of selling everything they have, and kicking them out of their home? happyslug Apr 2013 #99

None of our criminal penalties sell everything the person has treestar Apr 2013 #101

Who said anything about CRIMINAL sanctions, you should look at what Creditors can TAKE from Debtors happyslug Apr 2013 #102

This seems to be a completely different subject treestar Apr 2013 #103

Again, this is NOT a criminal sanction, but a Civil Sanction happyslug Apr 2013 #104

No, we just drive them insane with perpetual solitary confinement. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #93

Deliberately paralyzing them is a whole different league altogether treestar Apr 2013 #95

269677.20 US Dollars and all is forgiven Sunlei Apr 2013 #68

Saudi Arabia denies paralysis punishment muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #88

Yes - change of mind. dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #89

The perpetrator's family finally paid up happyslug Apr 2013 #97