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geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
12. I'm not sure it is anything like saying that.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 07:22 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Thu Apr 4, 2013, 07:54 AM - Edit history (1)

It's a fact - Vermont and NH have some of the 'loosest' (whatever the f that means - I prefer liberal) gun laws in the country.

Also, Kentucky, Utah, Kansas and are known to have very liberal gun laws.

So do Arizona and Texas.

Except for Arizona, none of those states are that glowing fire engine run away and hide red color on the map. Vermont, Utah and NH are that nice cool cucumber green.

This is what the article says:


While many factors contribute to the rates of gun violence in any state, our research clearly demonstrates a significant correlation between the strength of a state’s gun laws and the prevalence of gun violence in the state. Across the key indicators of gun violence that we analyzed, the 10 states with the weakest gun laws collectively have a level of gun violence that is more than twice as high—104 percent higher—than the 10 states with the strongest gun laws.

STUDY: States With Loose Gun Laws Have Higher Rates Of Gun Violence



The actual study uses these criteria to rank states according to their gun laws:

In November 2012 the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence released an extensive analysis examining the relative strength and weakness of each state’s gun laws.29 It considered 29 policy approaches to addressing gun violence, and states received points for having strong laws designed to prevent gun violence such as requiring background checks for all gun sales, banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and requiring an applicant to demonstrate the need for a concealed weapon before being issued a permit to carry one. States lost points for laws that impede law enforcement or protect the interests of gun manufacturers such as laws providing legal immunity to gun sellers and bans on doctors providing information regarding the risks of firearms to patients. Using this methodology, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence ranked the states based on the strength of their gun laws.

While many factors influence the rate of gun-related violence in any state, comparison of these rankings with the aggregate ranking of states based on gun-violence outcomes reveals a significant correlation between weak state gun laws and increased gun violence in a state. Across the key gun-violence indicators that we analyzed, the 10 states with the weakest gun laws collectively have a level of gun violence that is more than twice as high as the 10 states with the strongest gun laws.



America Under the Gun A 50-State Analysis of Gun Violence and Its Link to Weak State Gun Law


Most people accept that climate change is happening. However, not all people accept or understand the difference between correlation and causation. Personally, I am not particularly impressed with an R squared value of .4214.

Gee, what a big surprise... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #1
ER MER GERD!!! You mean more deadly weapons does not make a place safer?!?!?!?!?? Drale Apr 2013 #2
Highest rates, maybe, but not the highest number of gun-deaths. N/T beevul Apr 2013 #3
Agreed fredzachmane Apr 2013 #10
I agree Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #34
So, the lives of the people in those states don't matter? baldguy Apr 2013 #13
I don't remember saying that any lives "don't matter". beevul Apr 2013 #16
Not exactly zipplewrath Apr 2013 #19
You're just denying the facts because they don't fit your dogma. baldguy Apr 2013 #21
You're projecting. beevul Apr 2013 #26
Exactly fredzachmane Apr 2013 #36
You are a hundred times more likely to be the victim fredzachmane Apr 2013 #35
thanks for showing some intellect here samsingh Apr 2013 #41
Yet some low-violence states also have realtively loose gun laws. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #4
Ice cream sales go up at the beach when it's hot, fredzachmane Apr 2013 #11
that logic can be used on anything samsingh Apr 2013 #42
Try again. Vermont and NH have some of the "loosest" gun laws in the country. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #5
Which may be why they have higher gun violence rates than their neighbors starroute Apr 2013 #7
Maine's Gun Laws are about as loose as can be. formercia Apr 2013 #20
if you don't like the result, divide everyting into red or green samsingh Apr 2013 #43
That's like saying global warming is a myth tabasco Apr 2013 #8
I'm not sure it is anything like saying that. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #12
More n/t krispos42 Apr 2013 #39
. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #40
Oh noes! The Gungeon will be unhappy about this. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #6
Here we go Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #9
States with high rates of poverty and low levels of education have high rates of gun violence. hack89 Apr 2013 #14
Amazing. Even with all of the gun violence in Chicago that we keep hearing about, Chakab Apr 2013 #15
To be fair, not all gun violence is created equal One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #17
So, there's less gun violence where there's less guns? Is this a correlation? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #18
How can that be since tough gun laws mean "only criminals can get guns." yellowcanine Apr 2013 #22
No one stops the bad guys with guns lark Apr 2013 #24
Also, Sun has high rate of rising in East. KamaAina Apr 2013 #23
And when the sun goes down it generally gets dark...... yellowcanine Apr 2013 #25
The Map Reflects the traditional difference between the North and South when it comes to crime happyslug Apr 2013 #27
The Book - Albion's Seed - speaks well to this n/t LarryNM Apr 2013 #30
Thanks for your helpful post. Worth reading, by all means. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #32
Um, Washington and Oregon are loose as hell on gun laws. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #28
You don't say! sakabatou Apr 2013 #29
here in Ohio, I can own silencers and machine guns, I can walk around with a concealed handgun bubbayugga Apr 2013 #31
Makes perfect sense, thanks for the article, and the graphic. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #33
If guns make us safer, why is our country one of the least safe? grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #37
Apples and oranges comparison. krispos42 Apr 2013 #38
Violent crime map. rrneck Apr 2013 #44
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