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Lonestarblue

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25. Republicans have been trying to turn back the clock for decades.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:44 PM
Sep 2020

What the want is to eliminate all amendments to the Constitution except the 2nd. Then they would be free to establish the right-wing Christian religion as the state religion and the law of the land, and only white male property owners would be allowed to vote.

Sasse’s proposal ties into something I’ve read by Republicans for a few years without really understanding the distinction they were trying to make and that is an emphasis on the US as a republic, not a democracy. It’s true that we are not a direct democracy where citizens vote on laws, but I think Republicans are working on the idea of more power being in the hands of state legislatures. Prior to the 17th Amendment, it was the state legislatures that selected senators. It appears that Sasse wants to return to those days, where corruption and patronage were the game. The state legislatures are a huge part of the problem with the Electoral College because most states award all their EC votes to the popular vote winner instead of apportioning votes based on actual vote counts, thus representing the minority votes. If all states moved away from winner take all, we would have better representation of the overall popular vote winner.

The rot is Russian. dchill Sep 2020 #1
x1000 Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #21
It is dysfunctional because McConnell avebury Sep 2020 #2
Exactly! Rebl2 Sep 2020 #55
That's stupid and undemocratic idea vlyons Sep 2020 #3
Exactly ashredux Sep 2020 #6
Agree 100% SharonClark Sep 2020 #9
+1 K&R - Rotten Cotton is a hick who went to Harvard & came out an Idiot. onetexan Sep 2020 #26
Gerrymandering plays no role in senate elections. But the senate is certainly unrepresentative. PSPS Sep 2020 #37
The Electoral Collage does not have anything to do with the election of senators. marie999 Sep 2020 #39
How do you "gerrymander the vote" to affect the Senate? Jose Garcia Sep 2020 #47
It's not the structure or how elected...it is the fact people elected crooks who took Russian$ ashredux Sep 2020 #4
He also wants democrats declared 7/8s human. Augiedog Sep 2020 #5
I thought it was 3/5ths groundloop Sep 2020 #24
As long as we're turning back the clock, return Nebraska to Native Americans BamaRefugee Sep 2020 #7
Good one. NCDem47 Sep 2020 #12
all the states. The white murderers and rapists coming in "caravans" have failed. Give it all back. Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #23
Yep! mountain grammy Sep 2020 #52
Let the gerrymandered legislatures decide? SharonClark Sep 2020 #8
EXACTLY! CurtEastPoint Sep 2020 #16
trying to bring the good old days right Sasse....don't want to be held accountable by voters turbinetree Sep 2020 #10
The indirect election of Senators resulted in failure of Abraham Lincoln to become a Senator. NNadir Sep 2020 #11
We voted for a DownriverDem Sep 2020 #13
The rot is Ben Sasse. Don't tinker with my Constitution bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #14
Get rid of the Senate. It is designed to advantage slave states (red states today). lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #15
totally agree with you! RicROC Sep 2020 #35
Many senators have suggested the same thing. PSPS Sep 2020 #38
You need 2/3 of the Senate to vote to abolish the Senate. Not going to happen. marie999 Sep 2020 #40
OK. Why is that important? Sasse's thing isn't going to happen either. ck4829 Sep 2020 #46
Yeah I know. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #50
2/3 of state legislatures can bypass Congress to propose amendments. NYC Liberal Sep 2020 #59
TERM F...ing LIMITS!!!! usaf-vet Sep 2020 #17
Well, he does have a point-- the Senate is now useless because of a few thousand people in... TreasonousBastard Sep 2020 #18
Sasse rso Sep 2020 #19
Wrong direction. I have an idea to fix HOR (gerrymandering) and Senate (disproportionate) rwsanders Sep 2020 #20
No. obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #27
Why? rwsanders Sep 2020 #29
First, gerrymandering has nothing to do with voting for senators marie999 Sep 2020 #41
Didn't say it had anything to do with the senate. But it would break up the advantage rwsanders Sep 2020 #48
The only change that should be done to Senate elections is that to win a new term the Senator has to cstanleytech Sep 2020 #22
Another change in the Constitution that will not get the backing of 2/3 of the Senate. marie999 Sep 2020 #42
Of course not because many of them have a vested interest in never seeing such a change happening, cstanleytech Sep 2020 #51
Republicans have been trying to turn back the clock for decades. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #25
Fuck off !!! SamKnause Sep 2020 #28
The Senate Needs To Be Rolled Back To A Mostly Advisory Body smb Sep 2020 #30
You won't get 2/3 of the senators to vote for your proposal. marie999 Sep 2020 #43
ALEC proposal KT2000 Sep 2020 #31
sasse is trump's whore. he should stick to brown nosing the CIC nt msongs Sep 2020 #32
Dear Senator Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #33
So, he's going to "cure" the Senate of it's dysfunctional nature... patphil Sep 2020 #34
Maybe it's just that he sees the Republican party is dead men walking ToxMarz Sep 2020 #36
All the proposals I read here would take a 2/3 vote of the senators marie999 Sep 2020 #44
Nor is Sasse's ck4829 Sep 2020 #49
If you want to make a change - Why not abolish the Senate altogether? ck4829 Sep 2020 #45
But the senate would not vote to change their part of The Constitution. marie999 Sep 2020 #53
I'm asking why not how ck4829 Sep 2020 #54
This guy is a clueless fool JI7 Sep 2020 #56
Neuter the Senate. roamer65 Sep 2020 #57
So the solution to a dysfunctional legislature is to have other legislatures select its members? n/t Make7 Sep 2020 #58
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