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Sherrod Brown: Dems will lose if we have to choose between speaking to progressive base and workers [View all] brooklynite Jan 2019 OP

I think he's right, which is one reason I hope runs marylandblue Jan 2019 #1

Same here. I also really hope he runs. justhanginon Jan 2019 #8

A major funder I know says she's already committed to him... brooklynite Jan 2019 #20

He's at the top of my list. ooky Jan 2019 #73

Mine too. Brown has consistently voted correctly (almost prophetically) on everything since 1993. stuffmatters Jan 2019 #89

Yes we will. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #2

I think he could win. I hope he runs. His message is right. yardwork Jan 2019 #3

I don't understand. Who thinks that the Dems can't speak to both? Autumn Jan 2019 #4

I know who. (But I'm not saying.) NurseJackie Jan 2019 #7

that was my first thought still_one Jan 2019 #9

I agree, smells like a litmus test to me beachbum bob Jan 2019 #16

That was my take. also. efhmc Jan 2019 #71

I think he means titaniumsalute Jan 2019 #5

Good point. The fact is though those wedge issues will come up, we just have to hope the common still_one Jan 2019 #14

Yeah it is pretty inevitable during a campaign titaniumsalute Jan 2019 #17

Sounds like Her ward Dean's 50 state strategy. +++++++++++ still_one Jan 2019 #18

I'm not sure what he means by the Progressive base. I was under the impression progressives jalan48 Jan 2019 #6

You'd think so, wouldn't you? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #12

Yes indeed, from FDR onward, progressives have championed... RobertDevereaux Jan 2019 #15

"Eleanor-and-Franklin roots" Basic LA Jan 2019 #24

Progressives are also seen as supporting a range of civil rights and "identity politics" issues... brooklynite Jan 2019 #37

So we need to jettison the whole "deplorables" thing. jalan48 Jan 2019 #44

NO! That's not what either Senator Brown or Brooklynite said. KPN Jan 2019 #58

So you're thinking it will be a good idea to call a block of voters a name? Do you think that will jalan48 Jan 2019 #79

What? You are putting words in my mouth. KPN Jan 2019 #80

Sorry, misread what you said. I think we're on the same side here. I like Brown. jalan48 Jan 2019 #82

trump's deplorable base will never vote for a democrat rampartc Jan 2019 #85

I think calling voters names is a really bad idea. If we focus on the issues and not label "bad" jalan48 Jan 2019 #87

gender neutral pronouns and bathrooms do not sell out here rampartc Jan 2019 #84

He's right Bayard Jan 2019 #10

He's right. n/t MBS Jan 2019 #11

The problem is what "workers" means Recursion Jan 2019 #13

Very astute. Scruffy1 Jan 2019 #23

I prefer the term "Employees" Basic LA Jan 2019 #25

Thank you for this. violetpastille Jan 2019 #27

+1 ... it is a bit of a quandary, just as you describe so well ... (nt) mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #30

I have nothing to add Blackjackdavey Jan 2019 #61

Actually, Medicare for all would replace Medicaid TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #86

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Get a haircut. That's funny. violetpastille Jan 2019 #26

He's my candidate. He's right ... can't fall for the either or trap MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #21

Ugh. . . . h2ebits Jan 2019 #22

I think he means coaltition building. Workers and Progressives dont' need to be on different sides. haele Jan 2019 #28

the working class IS the progressive base ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #29

I think his point is you have to frame the issues correctly ;) (nt) mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #31

You don't live in NE Ohio JohnnyRingo Jan 2019 #34

I hear what you're saying ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #35

Exactly. KPN Jan 2019 #59

Johnny Ohiogal Jan 2019 #54

I'm not so sure anymore Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #41

the last part is about framing and messaging ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #42

I'm a little confused too LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #55

I like Brown, but don't like the "dignity of work" line... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #32

if he runs, I may switch my support from kamala to him AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #33

The Democratic "base" is made up of workers. It's not an either/or situation. pnwmom Jan 2019 #36

He's talking about all workers. Some of them won't vote Democrat because they are basically KPN Jan 2019 #60

If so, why is he talking about the base vs. workers? pnwmom Jan 2019 #88

Because they have driven priorities on the KPN Jan 2019 #91

But that isn't answering my question. Why is he viewing this as an either/or? pnwmom Jan 2019 #93

Progressives/Liberals have always supported and been part of the working/middle class Freethinker65 Jan 2019 #38

False Dichotomy That Trump Himself Promotes TomCADem Jan 2019 #39

I heard this discussion on MSNBC with Rachael last night mysteryowl Jan 2019 #40

Excellent, I hope Brown enters the race. appalachiablue Jan 2019 #43

and The Hill will do it's best to hammer home the differences and divide Dems pecosbob Jan 2019 #45

Working class white Yosemito Jan 2019 #46

false dichotomy NotHardly Jan 2019 #47

way to miss the point, sen KG Jan 2019 #48

What point? KPN Jan 2019 #62

Historically, workers were always at the front of progressive movements Yavin4 Jan 2019 #49

As a progressive, I disagree -- based on the record over the past 40+ years and some who have called KPN Jan 2019 #67

By "historically", I mean further back than the last 40 years. Yavin4 Jan 2019 #72

As well as other wedge issues, control of radio waves,control of MSM, KPN Jan 2019 #78

Is there that much of a gap between progressives and workers? apnu Jan 2019 #50

I think when it comes to legislative priorities, and the record over the past 40+ years, yes. KPN Jan 2019 #66

Hey Sherod! Maybe I should remind you maxrandb Jan 2019 #51

Did it ever occur to you that maybe all workers don't agree with that and KPN Jan 2019 #64

Somebody explain to me HopeAgain Jan 2019 #52

The wedge issue is environmentalism Yuorik57 Jan 2019 #53

This. apnu Jan 2019 #75

"I've seen so many national Democrats look at this as you either speak to the progressive base, or 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2019 #56

He's there, he ought to know I'd think. I'll take his word for it. The record certainly supports KPN Jan 2019 #63

Then he needs to be specific, not broad, so we all know. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2019 #65

Why? That isn't going top change anything. If you can't interpret the record to equate to that KPN Jan 2019 #68

Because he pretty much can't have it both ways. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2019 #69

Have what both ways? Your unwillingness to understand or agree? KPN Jan 2019 #70

I am not a mindreader. So what "national Democrats" is he referring to? 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2019 #81

Thank you Senator Brown. KPN Jan 2019 #57

Liberal, progressive, Democrat here DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #74

Many workers are progressives Mr. Brown. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #76

I disagree... BlueJac Jan 2019 #77

Brown is part of the Franken Railroad. LakeArenal Jan 2019 #83

I agree, at least in part, I don't think the Dems can win with a progressive, inexperienced... olddad56 Jan 2019 #90

Oh, but the REALLY liberalhistorian Jan 2019 #92

He forgot the purity-seeking part n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #94