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59. Strider wasn't employed by HRC in 2016.

Reply to Omaha Steve (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:36 PM

Jan 2018

He never worked for her after 2008.

"Mr. Strider...was hired five years later to lead an independent group that supported Mrs. Clinton’s 2016 candidacy."

It's dismaying to see the number of people who were so easily played by Haberman/Chozick's crafty use of intervening relative clauses.

Moreover, the NYT needs to do a better job of fact checking. Correct the Record was founded in 2015, seven (not five) years after Strider worked for HRC's 2008 campaign. That is a very sloppy mistake.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/hillary-clinton-chose-to-shield-a-top-adviser-accused-of-harassment-in-2008.html

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Clinton says she spoke to staffer who accused top adviser of harassment [View all] DonViejo Jan 2018 OP

The campaign had a procedure in place and DURHAM D Jan 2018 #1

Wasn't FIRED until 2016 Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #3

No videohead5 Jan 2018 #6

Wasn't fired in 2008!!!! Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #12

I did not say videohead5 Jan 2018 #15

No, not true angrychair Jan 2018 #73

That's what I read videohead5 Jan 2018 #80

The article was written out of order it seems angrychair Jan 2018 #81

:) Don't get so worked up. SHE remained with the Clinton campaign, Hortensis Jan 2018 #61

Wow! I doubt she was happy about it... angrychair Jan 2018 #74

Actually she appears to have been promoted. delisen Jan 2018 #91

Stop the deflection angrychair Jan 2018 #93

I am sorry but these are your suppositions. delisen Jan 2018 #146

Haberman Has & Always Had Clinton Derangement Syndrome Me. Jan 2018 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #19

No he was not!!! angrychair Jan 2018 #72

Facts vi5 Jan 2018 #9

So true. It's amazing how many people were played by Haberman/Chozick. N/T lapucelle Jan 2018 #63

He was working at Correct The Record up until at least October 2014 Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #25

If the Vegan recipes were good ones Loki Liesmith Jan 2018 #27

The victim got a transfer. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #29

I dont care. Loki Liesmith Jan 2018 #39

People have been pretending this was never to be heard from again after the 2008 campaign. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #41

+++++999999999999999999999 angrychair Jan 2018 #75

Imagine if multiple victims came forward, nothing was done ehrnst Jan 2018 #109

The Clinton Rules in effect still mcar Jan 2018 #123

Right Me. Jan 2018 #154

I Google'd him. Yes. Your observations are correct. I too, see an obvious double-standard. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #168

"Human rights are women's rights..." Hortensis Jan 2018 #112

Why would a serial campaign staff abuser who was protected would be called a "good friend" ehrnst Jan 2018 #110

But was he given a "demotion upward" ehrnst Jan 2018 #104

Strider wasn't employed by HRC in 2016. lapucelle Jan 2018 #59

Just NOT TRUE angrychair Jan 2018 #76

Those were just concerned citizens who happened to hire the "faith" director from 2008 Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #84

I cannot believe what Im reading here angrychair Jan 2018 #86

Here you go, Hassin. Hortensis Jan 2018 #114

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #115

That is deflection angrychair Jan 2018 #118

Not really. It's called pointing out double standards. ehrnst Jan 2018 #119

Exactly right. Hypocrisy means double standards. R B Garr Jan 2018 #160

Actually, Correct the Record was launched in Nov 2013, per a July 2014 article in Slate. Demit Jan 2018 #149

According to its Wiki page, Correct the Record was founded in 2015 by David Brock. lapucelle Jan 2018 #156

Yes, facts. Abusers being enabled, and then called "good friend" ehrnst Jan 2018 #111

Wow! Thank you so much for posting this. It reveals much, and... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #165

So? I could give a crap. Hillary Clinton is a private citizen. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #166

Wasn't a private citizen in 2008 or 2016 Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #170

And? She sent the guy to counseling and handled it...Also, he did not work for Clinton Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #171

That's not true. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #4

That's not a fact, it's speculation Major Nikon Jan 2018 #16

They decided all right angrychair Jan 2018 #78

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #116

He wasn't fired Major Nikon Jan 2018 #7

Yeah "serious discipline" Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #14

She's not president. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #17

Nonsense Major Nikon Jan 2018 #21

That's speculation. Correct? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #22

No, it was a question that you refused to answer Major Nikon Jan 2018 #26

You, in post 16, refuse to acknowledge the facts presented in the story. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #30

I'm glad to acknowledge facts, less so with nonsense Major Nikon Jan 2018 #34

Then acknowledge the facts presented in the story that he was investigated by the ... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #45

You still haven't answered the question Major Nikon Jan 2018 #47

You still have only acknowledged part of the facts. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #48

Regardless of how much you whine about it, I'm not going to accept a non-fact as fact Major Nikon Jan 2018 #53

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #125

That's what NYT did with Glenn Thrush - in 2017 mcar Jan 2018 #65

WHAT?!? angrychair Jan 2018 #82

lol at the recipe obsession. Loki Liesmith Jan 2018 #28

I have the same reaction to friendship with a married perv "faith adviser" Karl Rove clone. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #38

I know, right.. But but but.. Cha Jan 2018 #100

Just imagine if he had been demoted upward! ehrnst Jan 2018 #106

What does all of that have to do with what happened back in 2008? George II Jan 2018 #153

That firing came 8 years later on the 2016 campsign CentralMass Jan 2018 #20

About the young woman zentrum Jan 2018 #37

He didn't work for HRC's 2016 campaign. lapucelle Jan 2018 #62

That is not true! angrychair Jan 2018 #83

Thank you, great posts lapucelle! It looks like there is R B Garr Jan 2018 #164

The organization firing him was founded in 2015 delisen Jan 2018 #94

Strider was hired to lead Correct the Record in 2013 lapucelle Jan 2018 #157

The point is that Strider was not fired in 2008. CentralMass Jan 2018 #162

He was sent to counseling...seems like a fair way to handle it to me. But again Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #167

I only posted because there are some inaccuracies being stated here. CentralMass Jan 2018 #169

A good response mcar Jan 2018 #2

What?!? angrychair Jan 2018 #85

Hit piece mcar Jan 2018 #92

What details? angrychair Jan 2018 #96

What???? mcar Jan 2018 #101

What I said is a fact angrychair Jan 2018 #103

The reporting of this, the timing, the reporters mcar Jan 2018 #122

It is irrelevant angrychair Jan 2018 #130

We disagree mcar Jan 2018 #137

As long as we disagree angrychair Jan 2018 #139

Do you think that this should have disqualified her from running in 2016? ehrnst Jan 2018 #129

I campaigned for HRC in 2016 angrychair Jan 2018 #135

Well, that's a change of heart, isn't it? ehrnst Jan 2018 #136

Really? angrychair Jan 2018 #141

Laughable. Its more about the hypocrisy of holding R B Garr Jan 2018 #161

You have your facts wrong. lapucelle Jan 2018 #95

I do? angrychair Jan 2018 #97

You have your facts wrong. lapucelle Jan 2018 #105

An independent group!?!??!??! angrychair Jan 2018 #113

Here are the FEC documents and filings. lapucelle Jan 2018 #117

Ok, so? angrychair Jan 2018 #120

Then you concede that it was independent. lapucelle Jan 2018 #131

Im trying not to turn this into a rabbit hole angrychair Jan 2018 #138

I'm stating facts. lapucelle Jan 2018 #145

Well, if you want to claim that contracting organizations are the same as campaign employees ehrnst Jan 2018 #132

Maggie Haberman tweeted her concerns in February 2016 lapucelle Jan 2018 #140

And other NYT reporters are doing their mcar Jan 2018 #99

No wonder online comments to the story are disabled. lapucelle Jan 2018 #107

Oh yeah mcar Jan 2018 #127

Was this young woman sexually assaulted or not? (The answer is yes) angrychair Jan 2018 #108

You mean like Arturo Carmona was? ehrnst Jan 2018 #102

It's news, but the timing makes it a likely hit piece too. Bradical79 Jan 2018 #143

One has to wonder why maggie haberman and glenn thrush didn't go to directly to still_one Jan 2018 #5

Good questions all MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #11

Nothing in Clinton's tweets disputes the story in the NYT karynnj Jan 2018 #43

No she didn't, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Did Habberman and Thrush even try to still_one Jan 2018 #46

That's an excellent point about Thrush DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #57

I need to make a correction. Thrush did not co-author the specific NY Times article, but is will be still_one Jan 2018 #60

I could say the same thing -- that was not my point karynnj Jan 2018 #69

Go st of all I misstated that Haberman wrote the article with Thrush still_one Jan 2018 #70

Thanks for this, karynnj! calimary Jan 2018 #79

Maggie "Bothsiderism" Haberman - making NYT fair and balanced dalton99a Jan 2018 #8

When a NYT star reporter harrasses, it's simply "bad judgement"... lapucelle Jan 2018 #98

From what I have read about them... sheshe2 Jan 2018 #148

Wow the obsession with "Hillary did it, too" MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #10

The name in the news SHOULD BE the guy who did the dirty deed. Wwcd Jan 2018 #58

Yes it seems it is only important how women react. MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #67

No kidding. just another attempt at hit piece by a hack. rockfordfile Jan 2018 #128

Agreed MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #133

Senior Faith Adviser? Danascot Jan 2018 #13

That jumped out at me too. shanny Jan 2018 #31

While it is easy to say that in hindsight, President Obama also had issues with Rev Wright during still_one Jan 2018 #35

The target of Rev Wright's incendiary remarks was white power, not white people. Zen Democrat Jan 2018 #42

I wasn't blaming President Obama at all, only demonstrating that candidates and nominees spiritual still_one Jan 2018 #50

Every situation is different as we should have learned over the past 3-6 months. lancelyons Jan 2018 #18

It was videohead5 Jan 2018 #24

What?!? angrychair Jan 2018 #87

Get back to me for my outrage over this matter...... Paladin Jan 2018 #23

isn't this the vaunted "whataboutism" everyone complains about? nt shanny Jan 2018 #32

Faith adviser? trixie2 Jan 2018 #33

Like the faith advisers who think fucking a porn actress while your wife is pregnant is cool. onecaliberal Jan 2018 #51

Ok Who Would Still? videohead5 Jan 2018 #36

I swear before God or any other force greater than I GaryCnf Jan 2018 #40

and the irony that Maggie Habermann is writing a book with Glenn still_one Jan 2018 #44

Small correction: her co-author on the story was Amy Chozick. She's writing a book with Glenn Thrush Demit Jan 2018 #49

Actually that isn't a small correction, I really thought he co-authored that article, but when I still_one Jan 2018 #52

Understandable that the two were linked in your mind. Demit Jan 2018 #55

I agree with your entire analysis still_one Jan 2018 #56

This GaryCnf Jan 2018 #54

PRISON!! Angry Dragon Jan 2018 #64

Good to know she made him pay for his abuse left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #66

What? angrychair Jan 2018 #88

It's stupid that this is a big story now..... vi5 Jan 2018 #68

+++++999999999999999999999 angrychair Jan 2018 #89

Trump loves this. Wave a shiny thing while he's at his most vulnerable, Dems pile on each other. n/t Akoto Jan 2018 #71

she did the right thing... samnsara Jan 2018 #77

Did she? angrychair Jan 2018 #90

And he misused campaign funds as well as taking credit for female staffers' work ehrnst Jan 2018 #121

Deflection angrychair Jan 2018 #124

Not really. It's called pointing out double standards. ehrnst Jan 2018 #126

Deflection again angrychair Jan 2018 #144

No, it's not "deflection".. it shows you are Cha Jan 2018 #142

No melman Jan 2018 #150

Oh yes it does. Cha Jan 2018 #151

I'm guessing it's rather tough to deny the enjoyment one may receive gnawing on red meat. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #172

I don't really understand what some folks are helmedon1974 Jan 2018 #134

It's truly amazing the standard that Hillary is held to. Meanwhile, Trump has repeatedly stated Yavin4 Jan 2018 #147

And, they're doing it from Glass Houses. Cha Jan 2018 #152

++++++++Great comment. nt R B Garr Jan 2018 #163

k hydrolastic Jan 2018 #158

how about we just don't sacrifice Democrat after Democrat dawg day Jan 2018 #159