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Israel deploys 'Star Wars' missile killer system [View all] mitty14u2 Jan 2017 OP

Courtesy of the ever-generous U.S. taxpayer. tenorly Jan 2017 #1

The technology for leftynyc Jan 2017 #2

Umm, I care. NWCorona Jan 2017 #7

LOL! Rex Jan 2017 #23

The money going to Egypt never gets mentioned on DU. DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #11

It's assumed that the defense system doesn't work. Igel Jan 2017 #16

Hmm, wonder if this works? lark Jan 2017 #3

The technology wasn't up to it in the 1980's Lurks Often Jan 2017 #10

Took years to develop fixed-wing aircraft. Igel Jan 2017 #17

Are they worried about North Korea? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #4

I doubt NK is more than an e-blip on Tel Aviv's radar. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #5

Yeah 'cause preventing a nuclear holocaust is a waste of money MosheFeingold Jan 2017 #8

Possessing nuclear weapons is more likely to lead to more instability. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #12

Not being able to defend would be the disaster. JudyM Jan 2017 #19

Without the nukes leftynyc Jan 2017 #26

You start with pure speculation, and end with a huge assumption about my beliefs. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #28

Oh please leftynyc Jan 2017 #29

You made a specific assertion, or insinuation if you will, about my posts. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #33

Feel free to link to ANY leftynyc Jan 2017 #37

So I must prove that your assertion is false? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #39

Back up and prove leftynyc Jan 2017 #46

You made an assertion. The burden of proof is on you. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #50

Yawn leftynyc Jan 2017 #53

You made a claim. You obviously cannot support your claim. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #55

Gee - so sorry an OPINION leftynyc Jan 2017 #57

Please reconsider what you just wrote. It is a racist objection to the poster's point. JudyM Jan 2017 #31

It has nothing to do with race. The poster wrote: guillaumeb Jan 2017 #34

Their desire to obliterate Israel is a well-documented fact that is a separate issue than JudyM Jan 2017 #35

Your response seems to have ignored what I said. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #36

Iran has made some threatening remarks with respect to Israel oberliner Jan 2017 #77

No argument. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #81

Israel is worried about already existing Iranian ballistic missiles.. EX500rider Jan 2017 #92

But Iran has no capability of nuclear weapons. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #93

If they did have such capability, you think things would be more stable? oberliner Jan 2017 #95

If Israel withdrew to the 1967 borders, would things become more stable? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #99

Less hack89 Jan 2017 #108

So between the Arabs who resent the creation of an Israeli State, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #111

I certainly don't see a solution hack89 Jan 2017 #113

Well, one reason that there can be no peaceful solution is that one country, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #115

There is plenty of blame to go around nt hack89 Jan 2017 #119

They would become less stable, for sure oberliner Jan 2017 #120

Nuclear proliferation 101: guillaumeb Jan 2017 #123

Which country in North and South America possesses nuclear weapons? oberliner Jan 2017 #126

Which country is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #129

USA, of course oberliner Jan 2017 #132

We are in agreement on that, and much else regarding the guillaumeb Jan 2017 #135

Yes, we have a good deal of agreement on many points oberliner Jan 2017 #140

Agreed, power politics is one reason that Iran and the US support guillaumeb Jan 2017 #142

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #21

How well does it work against a flying rain gutter? Scurrilous Jan 2017 #6

Iron dome MosheFeingold Jan 2017 #9

And how many casualties have these weapons acused? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #13

Since 2001 Devil Child Jan 2017 #14

You omitted 1/2 of the question. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #15

How is this relevant to Israel defending its citizenry against attacks? DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #18

Israelis should stop defending themselves altogether until the numbers are in balance. JudyM Jan 2017 #20

Apparently so. DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #22

They couldn't make it more obvious leftynyc Jan 2017 #30

More like their defensive measures aren't actually defensive -nt Bradical79 Jan 2017 #24

The system described in the article is. DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #25

Defining all Israeli attacks on Palestinian civilians as "defensive measures" guillaumeb Jan 2017 #27

What does that have to with the system described in the article? DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #41

The system described is called defensive, yet it will guillaumeb Jan 2017 #42

That's an argument against any defense at all by Israel of its own population DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #43

Not at all. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #44

What defensive measures by Isreal would be acceptable to you? Marengo Jan 2017 #45

Too open ended of a question. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #48

In your opinion, what action(s) should Israel take to stop the rocket attacks? Marengo Jan 2017 #51

Recognize that the current situation is untenable, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #52

Will all of the factions behind these attacks accept this solution and cease firing rockets? Marengo Jan 2017 #54

Unanswerable. Will every armed Israeli settler accept what might be negotiated? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #56

In your opinion, what is the likelihood the rocket attacks would cease? Marengo Jan 2017 #59

Asked and answered. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #62

No, you evaded. Do you expect me to believe you have no opinion? Marengo Jan 2017 #64

You asked me a hypothetical, and i noted the impossibility of answering. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #66

An opinion, which is what I am asking for, is not impossible to form as you well know. Your... Marengo Jan 2017 #68

Is your evasion also suspect? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #70

If your questions were anything other than an obvious diversionary tactic, I might reply. Marengo Jan 2017 #79

You are actually the one who sidetracked the discussion, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #82

In your opinion, what is the likelihood the rocket attacks would cease? Marengo Jan 2017 #84

There are two sides to this problem. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #86

The so-called rocket attacks are more of a psychological weapon than an actual guillaumeb Jan 2017 #100

"So-called rocket attacks", eh? That is VERY revealing, and what it reveals is VERY unflattering.... Marengo Jan 2017 #104

You win the prize for avoidance. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #106

"So-called", eh? Are rockets not launched? Have civilians not been killed? Marengo Jan 2017 #109

Israel has ALREADY tried that leftynyc Jan 2017 #96

Nice try. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #112

They share a border with Egypt leftynyc Jan 2017 #116

The Israeli State has been stealing Palestinian land for 70 years. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #117

BULLSHIT leftynyc Jan 2017 #118

Your narrative here has nothing to do with anything except your narrative. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #122

If you would just once admit leftynyc Jan 2017 #127

So you want me to replace actual history with your carefully crafted narrative? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #130

Are you seriously denying leftynyc Jan 2017 #131

And are you seriously denying that more than one Israeli Government guillaumeb Jan 2017 #134

So you're not going to answer leftynyc Jan 2017 #137

You are firmly set in your opinion. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #138

Gaza has a border with Egypt oberliner Jan 2017 #78

Egypt and Israel cooperate in controlling Gaza. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #87

Egypt is an independent country oberliner Jan 2017 #89

For all of your attempts to qualify and "explain", guillaumeb Jan 2017 #91

Fair enough oberliner Jan 2017 #94

And there is still no solution in sight, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #102

Unfortunately oberliner Jan 2017 #121

Even if Netanyahu were to lose a majority, is that any reason to think guillaumeb Jan 2017 #124

Using quotes oberliner Jan 2017 #125

Yes we can trade quotes, but history supports my version. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #128

It does not oberliner Jan 2017 #133

An interesting example of visual and verbal semantics on your part. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #136

Take the time to consider the following points oberliner Jan 2017 #139

I would not deny the history that has taken place in that area. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #143

You make some very good points oberliner Jan 2017 #144

No matter what the world decides, or does not decide, the problem guillaumeb Jan 2017 #145

Clinton almost pulled it off oberliner Jan 2017 #146

Agreed. But I fear that Trump will be seen by Netanyahu guillaumeb Jan 2017 #147

Maybe Merkel could serve that role oberliner Jan 2017 #148

The details of any agreement are important. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #149

Do you think Islamic Jihad would accept the two state solution? Marengo Jan 2017 #98

You have posed many questions and answered none. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #103

A yes or no answer to the question in post #98, please. Marengo Jan 2017 #105

World class avoidance on your part. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #107

In you opinion, would Islamic Jihad accept the two state solution and cease artillery operations? Marengo Jan 2017 #110

The answer to my posed question is obviously, yes, you will continue to avoid. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #114

In your opinion, with a yes or no answer, do you believe Islamic Jihad would accept the two state... Marengo Jan 2017 #141

Are you comparing defending against incoming rockets to Bush's invasion of Iraq? DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #58

I believe you are reading only what you want to see here. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #61

"when weapons and systems are developed, countermeasures soon follow" EX500rider Jan 2017 #150

Except of course for the fact that Iran has no nuclear weapon capability. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #152

No, Iran developing long range missiles is not in response to Israel unless.. EX500rider Jan 2017 #153

Your first sentence removes all reason for Israel to develop this weapon. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #154

Actually Iran was long under sanctions for working on developing them.. EX500rider Jan 2017 #156

And Iran is not working to acquire nuclear weapons. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #157

In your opinion, are these rocket attacks justifiable? Closed question, yes or no. Marengo Jan 2017 #38

Easy one to answer. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #40

That being the case, is Israel's ballistic missile defense system justifiable? Marengo Jan 2017 #47

See #44 or #32 for an answer. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #49

Yes or no, is the ballistic missile defense system justifiable? Marengo Jan 2017 #60

Still waiting for you to answer my questions. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #63

Yes or no, is the ballistic missle defense system justifiable? Marengo Jan 2017 #65

See #63 guillaumeb Jan 2017 #67

Why can't you answer in the manner I have requested? Marengo Jan 2017 #69

I already answered. But my answer apparently does guillaumeb Jan 2017 #71

You are well aware it does not, as I have repeatedly told you. Being well aware as I know you are... Marengo Jan 2017 #80

I would say that you and a few other posters assume far too much. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #83

Yes or no, is the ballistic missile defense system justifiable? Answer and I won't be compelled to.. Marengo Jan 2017 #85

It is a militarization that will inspire similar militarization by the other parties. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #88

Again with the diversion. I didn't ask what you thought of the Israeli government's position... Marengo Jan 2017 #97

Start replying to my questions for a change. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #101

while at first glance, such technology seems good, it is actually very destabilizing Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #32

Given Israel has nukes MosheFeingold Jan 2017 #72

sorry-- I meant if the US was planning on using these Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #75

At first glance, such technology seems good because it is good Devil Child Jan 2017 #73

sorry, I meant if the US deployed such systems, with our nuclear arsenal vs Russia nukes Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #74

No apology necessary Devil Child Jan 2017 #76

With ABM technology being over 30 years old... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2017 #90

Indeed, with AEGIS, GBI's, Thaad and Patriot the US has boost, mid-course and terminal covered. EX500rider Jan 2017 #151

"Though defensive violence will always be 'a sad necessity'... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2017 #155