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11. Only 76% are facing up to the real choice (Clinton v Trump) at this point
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jul 2016

Jim Messina the other night, on Charlie Rose, explained that at this point in a presidential election cycle (immediate post conventions), it's almost always 45% to 45%. It's solid Democrats vs solid Republicans, with the other 10% moving one direction or another as the cycle progresses through the debates, and then the final stages.

This poll, if accurate, reflects, then, that Trump is losing the Republican base, badly. Without that strong base support, he's in big hot water. Add to this that he does not have any African American, Latino, or other minority support (and most likely not the Arab American support that GW Bush had). And he faces a huge gender gap with women. There is no way he can win this election, folks.

The vast majority of the 24% of respondents who picked "other" at this point, are wounded souls who will largely line up with one candidate or another in the end. Most Americans are realists, though admittedly a small number will go for Johnson or Stein.

That can't be correct! left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #1
Well clearly SOMEONE is lying groundloop Jul 2016 #2
I think I heard or read ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #4
Indeed you did. sofa king Jul 2016 #20
Seriously, he said that? nt thucythucy Jul 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord Jul 2016 #14
What does Trump have to do to not get elected in this country? LisaL Jul 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord Jul 2016 #18
Setting arbitrary benchmarks is meaningless. stopbush Jul 2016 #24
He has said that about Latinos several times already. riversedge Jul 2016 #27
i wonder if Manafort has to tell that to tRump just to keep his orange ass in the campaign 0rganism Jul 2016 #37
The Clinton surge is starting! uawchild Jul 2016 #3
Any polls out yet on safeinOhio Jul 2016 #5
Here is one site aeroman Jul 2016 #6
This headline seems a bit misleading to me TeddyR Jul 2016 #8
That's not the news some people want to hear PDittie Jul 2016 #12
Per the rules of this forum, original headline has to be used. LisaL Jul 2016 #13
Thanks for pointing that out TeddyR Jul 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord Jul 2016 #16
Not "we" but "you" are not in a happy place Democat Jul 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord Jul 2016 #36
It is those voters that we really have to work for. unitedwethrive Jul 2016 #33
NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Polls cant be within margin of "error," aka electronic election fraud Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2016 #9
Most of This Poll videohead5 Jul 2016 #10
Only 76% are facing up to the real choice (Clinton v Trump) at this point frazzled Jul 2016 #11
This election will boil down to outside factors Cosmocat Jul 2016 #19
Yes, the unexpected event meets stupid factor frazzled Jul 2016 #21
Sadly, NO. They're tied. progressoid Jul 2016 #17
She should win by 20 points. Too many haters in the US I guess. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2016 #22
Marvelous Convention bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #23
That's all?? We're in trouble if that's true. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #25
The country is evenly split, no candidate is going to be up by 20 Democat Jul 2016 #31
20% is too much. That part is for sure. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #34
Only 6 points? This country is seriously effed up! C Moon Jul 2016 #26
As others have noted TeddyR Jul 2016 #29
6 points is a fine lead Democat Jul 2016 #32
It actually shows them tied oberliner Jul 2016 #35
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