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RobinA

(9,902 posts)
13. Generalize Much?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:19 AM
Jul 2015

Many psychologists left the organization over this issue. I am not a psychologist, but I was a student member of the APA when this issue first surfaced. The AMA and the psychiatrists had come out publicly against torture and the ethics of their members' taking part in it. The APA lagged and then came out with a strongly worded (weasel words, that is) document that said pretty much nothing of substance about torture, but made it clear it was declining to take a firm stance. I cancelled my membership at that point.

It now seems that the statement at the time was influenced by psychologists who would go on to have a money interest in relationships with DoD. This was not something the rank and file would necessarily have known at the time. That said, the APA is going to be feeling this one for a long time and hopefully it will make individual members of not just the APA, but other groups, pay more attention to what their groups are standing for. In general, I find that people are much less activist than some decades ago, and tend not to worry a lot about things that do not directly effect them. Oh course, many psychologist DID take exception to the APA's official position on torture and DID vote with their feet.

And to the APA - you should have seen this one coming a mile away. There is no excuse. Pay more attention the next time.

Report To The Special Committee Of The Board Of Directors Of The American Psychological Association bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #1
Thanks! nt bananas Jul 2015 #6
American Psychological Association Officials Protected National Security Psychologists Involved in bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #2
Yes they should participate and stop abuses in it's track. Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #3
this is why I got the willies when their (former) magazine insisted that the Charleston massacre MisterP Jul 2015 #4
And what about the medical doctors? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #5
Especially the medical profession JonLP24 Jul 2015 #9
Alfred W. McCoy is a trusted source of mine when it comes to informing US about hidden history bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #7
it does always go back to SE Asia, doesn't it? (though Lansdale was technically the Philippines) MisterP Jul 2015 #8
Hidden history is my primary interest JonLP24 Jul 2015 #10
NGU isn't rhetoric for many of US that survived situations designed to "neutralize" US that demand bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #14
NGU? I'm sorry I don't know what that means JonLP24 Jul 2015 #15
NGU=never give up. For what it's worth/fwiw DUers might find these links worth digging into bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #16
I highly recomend bob's sources to readers JonLP24 Jul 2015 #21
Sounds like you have some experience as another "whackjob" like so many of US JonLP24-lol. Yep, bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #29
Psychologists are hacks awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #11
Generalize Much? RobinA Jul 2015 #13
Their Association brought that up when one of their Doctors first 'contracted' with Bush to torture! Sunlei Jul 2015 #12
Why I Am Not A Member Of The American Psychological Association (Craig Chalquist PhD) bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #17
Three senior officials lose their jobs at APA after US torture scandal (Spencer Ackerman 7-14-15 bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #18
Accused of Enabling Torture, a US Military Psychologist Says He Was Doing the Opposite (Jason bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #19
Guatanamo Bay psychologists to remain despite APA torture fallout (Spencer Ackerman 7-15-15 Guard- bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #22
Looks like I missed something yesterday ^ bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #23
Helping victims &veterans is different than helping military.. Duppers Jul 2015 #24
Lots of dedicated military doctors refused illegal orders-some were whistleblowers put at peril. n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #26
I remember that. Duppers Jul 2015 #27
Speaking of Donald Henry Rumsfeld et al, take a gander at this little collection of torture policy bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #31
Wow! Bookmarking. Duppers Jul 2015 #32
No, not leaked docs, Duppers-mostly declassified or FOIA requested. Visit cryptome.org too n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #33
The APA torture scandal and the Nuremberg doctors trial (Tom Carter 7-13-15 RINF repost) bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #25
The Hoffman Report: After Years of Lies, Who Holds the APA Accountable? (John M. Grohol Psy.D. July bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #28
Prisoner Abuse: Patterns From The Past (The National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 122) bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #30
So, no coincidences, and plenty of horrific historical examples of what both APA's theoretical bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #34
The Hidden Tragedy of the CIA's Experiments on Children (Dr. Jeffery S. Kaye & HP Albarelli Jr 8-11 bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #35
From yesterday- news about next week's APA annual Board meeting in Toronto bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #36
Psychologists Collusion With US Torture Limited Our Ability To Decry It Anywhere bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #37
Anti-torture reforms opposed within psychology group after damning report (Spencer Ackerman 8-2-15 bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #38
Sirens of the Potomac: Think Tanks and Torture (Emma Briant 7-23-15 Counterpunch) bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #39
Meet Dr. Susan E. Brandon, American Psychiatric Association member-and a veteran TORTURER bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #40
One last kick to this thread from me, an article from May 29, 2007 in The Atlantic bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #41
Jeb Bush refuses to rule out use of torture if he becomes US president (AP&Spencer Ackerman 8-14-15 bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #42
The new SecDef Ashton Carter is not on the level of war criminals like Rumsfeld et al yet. Not yet. bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #43
A 2016 kick for all of US that love the truth. bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #44
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