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karynnj

(59,503 posts)
24. Frank, like Biden, has a habit of saying things without considering the consequenses
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:28 PM
Mar 2015

I think that Frank would often say impolitic clever things - sometimes just for the fun of seeing the results. I really don't understand why he felt the need to say this about Biden, who after all rose to be VP. Now, consider who gets picked to run as VP - it is ONLY those who the party (and especially the Nominee) consider very likely to help the candidate win and very unlikely to take the ticket down. Biden was selected by people who knew him very well.

In fact, given the dynamics of 2008 - which favored whoever won the Democratic nomination, the BIGGEST concern had to be to pick someone who would not become a liability. (For McCain, Palin was a gamble - he was very likely to lose if he did nothing unusual. Supposedly, the bold thing he wanted to do - picking Lieberman - was strongly attacked by his party -- so he picked Alaska's governor.)

I think the two things are negative characterizations of real Biden traits, but expressed far too strongly and negatively. He is a very effusive person and, to some, that is his charm.

Could it be that Frank either wants attention -- or he is acting as Ann Lewis' brother? (Lewis is a long time Hillary Clinton person.)

Frank himself was a brilliant public servant - incredible on domestic policy. (In fact, he was one of the people Kerry used to prepare for the domestic policy debate in 2004.) On the negative side his acid humor sometimes was misplaced and he was not exactly a role model of a politician.

Wow that really hits the spot eh?? a kennedy Mar 2015 #1
Poor Joe, he just can't help himself! Do you mind if I call you Joe? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #2
Barney's been in the spotlight a lot these days KamaAina Mar 2015 #3
Barney's on a book tour. RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #8
gonna see him tonight. he is stumping for rahm. mopinko Mar 2015 #39
I was just about to type KamaAina Mar 2015 #40
rahm has a lot of lgbt support. mopinko Mar 2015 #41
Shut up, Barney. dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #4
I wouldn't go that far but I know Barney has had a few handsy moments LynneSin Mar 2015 #7
Yup..I like Barney, but, unlike Joe, his interpersonal skills are fequently missing. n/t whathehell Mar 2015 #15
Wonder what brought this on. Barney the gruff has points but it's bad PR for Dems. & Biden. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #5
Projection?... Helen Borg Mar 2015 #6
Why don't you check with the Sec. of Defense's wife? former9thward Mar 2015 #21
I personally know he's a flirt but he seriously adores his wife and she knows it zazen Mar 2015 #22
doesn't look to me like she objects. dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #34
The things women do to survive a situation Blue_Adept Mar 2015 #36
Well said. BojackFan Mar 2015 #52
If you look at the video she does clearly object. former9thward Mar 2015 #37
people should keep their hands to themselves, this just looks bad wordpix Mar 2015 #43
Coming from Barney Frank who is no innocent... Renew Deal Mar 2015 #9
Hello Kettle! d_legendary1 Mar 2015 #13
Wait...I don't think good ole' Barney should be talking about folk Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #10
Ah...Barney... WilliamPitt Mar 2015 #11
And this opinion zentrum Mar 2015 #12
^^ this ^^ Myrina Mar 2015 #59
I like Biden policy, a lot dariomax Mar 2015 #14
Biden had the best Iraq strategy - partition AngryAmish Mar 2015 #19
Barnie is hawking his new book. And this stuff generate eyeballs. JoePhilly Mar 2015 #16
I love Joe Biden, and WOULD vote for him for President in a minute, but.... Glitterati Mar 2015 #17
On keeping his mouth shut, Barney is very much the pot calling Biden black. EEO Mar 2015 #18
Damn. My mother said they same thing Gman Mar 2015 #20
you want I should kick your talky, feely ass, Gman Skittles Mar 2015 #56
Nah, I did grow up Gman Mar 2015 #58
I call Bullshit on Barney Frank.. it's the repubs who always try to "diminish" people's perceptions Cha Mar 2015 #23
Frank, like Biden, has a habit of saying things without considering the consequenses karynnj Mar 2015 #24
Thanks Karyn.. I was really pissed when I read that.. I can't even believe somebody in our Cha Mar 2015 #29
I was annoyed hearing it too -- because I really don't see what the reason for it would be karynnj Mar 2015 #38
I, too, throughly dislike it when someone tries to marginalize serious people who are doing great Cha Mar 2015 #49
biden the most underappreciated member of the administration Colorado Vince Mar 2015 #25
Thanks Steviehh Mar 2015 #28
I appreciate him.. thanks, CV.. and I know the President does.. Cha Mar 2015 #30
he advocated for the partitioning of iraq (good idea) Colorado Vince Mar 2015 #31
Joe also can work with Congress dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #35
joe's flaws DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #26
I was thinking the same thing actually davidpdx Mar 2015 #33
Yes.. and Biden on ACA.. "It's a BFD!".. Before "Obamacare".. and he was right on.. Cha Mar 2015 #54
Barney Steviehh Mar 2015 #27
Barney should tread lightly here. Paul Bonacci court case of Barney's pedophilia is out there. TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #32
I like Biden a lot, but Barney is right. Beacool Mar 2015 #42
Jimmy Carter dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #44
I never saw the photo that you mentioned, but I've never seen Carter be touchy-feely in public. Beacool Mar 2015 #45
here ya go - dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #46
Thanks. Beacool Mar 2015 #48
Given that there has not been ONE harrassment claim in the over 50 years he has been in karynnj Mar 2015 #50
Your opinion, mine differs. Beacool Mar 2015 #51
question: whose behavior towards women is more troublesome - Joe or Bill? nt karynnj Mar 2015 #53
This article is about Biden, not Bill. Beacool Mar 2015 #61
Don't think he did it with my wife (we've met him twice); will have to re-check photos brooklynite Mar 2015 #60
I'm disappointed. Demoiselle Mar 2015 #47
me too...judgmental disparaging and unnecessary comments ALBliberal Mar 2015 #55
It just occurred to me that the FLOTUS is a major hugger. dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #57
Vice President Biden Is Simply Being Himself, A Great Leader & Hasn't Been Changed By Washington Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #62
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