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InAbLuEsTaTe

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148. Would love to see that!!

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Fri Nov 24, 2017, 10:02 PM

Nov 2017

Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!!

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Newsweek: BERNIE SANDERS WILL FACE DONALD TRUMP IN 2020 ELECTION, DEMOCRATS SAY [View all] madville Nov 2017 OP

Biden or Bernie would be great. We are going to need an older, trusted, stable figure. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #1

Old white men oberliner Nov 2017 #3

They can choose a rising star running mate. After living through the Nixon years, we are going to Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #6

I think we should nominate a woman oberliner Nov 2017 #10

I totally love the idea of a POC female, but I keep thinking about the Nixon aftermath. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #20

Long way to go oberliner Nov 2017 #23

If you are old enough to remember the Nixon era, you well know how very bad things are going to get. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #26

Enjoyed the discussion btw you and Oberliner.. pangaia Nov 2017 #49

I agree, I think it will be worse than Nixon and that was bad. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #53

And we ain't even halfway through this yet. eom DonViejo Nov 2017 #131

Yes it is early days. We are just in the beginning of it all. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #132

From what I have read, and heard from assorted talking heads... DonViejo Nov 2017 #139

Yes I would agree, 25% sounds about right. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #143

I cannot see him talked into getting out of office... DonViejo Nov 2017 #145

I think it would require very delicate handling, but Trump could be bought off and Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #146

You may be right thegoose Nov 2017 #301

Some members of congress have been bought off by the Russians too. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #306

Sanders would not be stabilizing. eom Control-Z Nov 2017 #93

Why do you think Sanders would not be stabilizing? Sophia4 Nov 2017 #107

I love Bernie and I am older. I think he would be stabilizing. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #133

I am old and I dont see Bernie as being a positive attribute for 2020. dhol82 Nov 2017 #157

What do you find negative about Bernie? ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #303

First and foremost, in 2020 he will be 79. dhol82 Nov 2017 #305

Say Kamala Harris has a strong showing in the Primary but Bernie gets the nod madville Nov 2017 #9

I would prefer to see a woman at the top of the ticket oberliner Nov 2017 #13

Would love to see that!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #148

This old white man agrees. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #11

Exactly. We've had enough of 70+ white men. Wwcd Nov 2017 #36

I agree with you in general, but it is going to be a shit storm when Trump Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #40

Agree. But Bernie Sanders is an extremely divisive person. Wwcd Nov 2017 #47

I see Bernie if a very different light. But I understand there are hard Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #51

Thank you. Wwcd Nov 2017 #59

Is it really Bernie who divided the Democratic Party? Sophia4 Nov 2017 #113

Exactly LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #258

Divisive, Lacking persona to heal,Unaswered Questions?, Hiding answers to hard questions, juxtaposed Nov 2017 #78

Who listens to RW Radio? Wwcd Nov 2017 #81

Your points are what is spit every day on R/W radio even the $11 million B/S juxtaposed Nov 2017 #86

I don't see Bernie as at all divisive. Sophia4 Nov 2017 #108

Why the ageism?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #149

The Al Franken thread needs more posts... n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #114

At the least, need youth and diversity at the VP Roland99 Nov 2017 #230

No they wouldn't be, and I doubt either will run, but if they do, I would bet money they wouldn't still_one Nov 2017 #12

There are plenty of experienced Dems in their 50's and 60's. We don't need pnwmom Nov 2017 #38

Who do you like? Sophia4 Nov 2017 #115

I haven't settled on anyone yet, but I like Kamala Harris, Adam Schiff, pnwmom Nov 2017 #117

I like Bernie, but I would be surprised if he really runs again. Sophia4 Nov 2017 #120

I like him Bernie too... I'm guessin' he's going to bow out gracefully... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #152

Welcome to DU!! I am not a Bernie fan but I fully expect him to run again. StevieM Nov 2017 #169

No and no NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #45

+1. obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2017 #69

Biden and Bernie do not have what is needed delisen Nov 2017 #76

Bernie weak on tRump?! You're kiddin', right? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #153

Can we please have someone who hasn't already run & lost a primary before? Please? nt Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #92

Did you say that when Hillary decided to run? Sophia4 Nov 2017 #116

No I didn't say it when Hillary decided to run. I'm saying it now. That's my privilege. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #126

Oh god no. He'd never bring the blue wave we need with him. bettyellen Nov 2017 #2

Agreed. I'd vote for Bernie over tRump, but not happily. Nt MANative Nov 2017 #8

Really?!!! Are you serious? tomp Nov 2017 #32

Except Bernie isn't a "dem" and his "bros" did no favors for our candidate in 2016. MANative Nov 2017 #63

Mine would be none at all. charlyvi Nov 2017 #71

that puts us not on the same page.... tomp Nov 2017 #87

Wrong charlyvi Nov 2017 #136

I never said he defined the left, so don't put words in my mouth. tomp Nov 2017 #206

But Trump won't be availible to run in 2020. So who is our Dem running against Wwcd Nov 2017 #84

we'll see. nt tomp Nov 2017 #207

Yep, he'd be a terrible President. I wouldn't be happy to vote for him either. stevenleser Nov 2017 #164

I am not a Sanders fan. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #189

Bernie is good at whipping up crowds. He'd be a disaster as President. kcr Nov 2017 #265

Wow, just wow (nt) ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #205

Where was that wave in 2016? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #14

Too many fair weather Dems fell for Russian propaganda and suppressed the vote. Not getting fooled bettyellen Nov 2017 #18

Too manu "occasional" Democrats fell for Trump's racism as well. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #29

If they fell into support for Trump they are not ever liberal. Even if some don't like it, being bettyellen Nov 2017 #68

Yup. Agschmid Nov 2017 #74

Exactly and. Too many were easy marks for delisen Nov 2017 #67

Several people I know in real life were sharing Russian propaganda- they still have no shame about bettyellen Nov 2017 #73

I agree sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #15

He makes me cringe. Its the Rape Fantasy book that makes me feel so. Wwcd Nov 2017 #50

He's proven his affinity to destroying the Dem Party over damning the RW. Wwcd Nov 2017 #37

Cue the Bernie haters dembotoz Nov 2017 #4

He created them. Wwcd Nov 2017 #64

+1000 charlyvi Nov 2017 #72

++++++Exactly!! R B Garr Nov 2017 #118

Seriously! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #150

I dont hate Bernie. I just want a Democrat in 2020 Lil Missy Nov 2017 #260

Yep the Bernie haters dembotoz Nov 2017 #263

Year of the Woman is a likelier scenario at this point. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #5

I agree there will be no equivocation about women's rights with what's going on now. WE are the base bettyellen Nov 2017 #16

That'll be the day. PubliusEnigma Nov 2017 #7

It would be a Putin and Trump dream come true. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #19

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #17

Boom Me. Nov 2017 #58

We've yet to have an answer & the one they gave is full of holes. Wwcd Nov 2017 #79

OMG...Can't Wait Me. Nov 2017 #83

Sean Hannity juxtaposed Nov 2017 #82

Cute Me. Nov 2017 #85

Pretty doubtful, IMO, but the pundits love to stir shit The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #21

Yup, they sure have been keeping that fight going. Wwcd Nov 2017 #39

I don't hate Bernie awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #22

Wow, a dozen say mcar Nov 2017 #24

It's The Hill after all... sheshe2 Nov 2017 #88

Yes. But shame on Newsweek for that ridiculous headline mcar Nov 2017 #98

I'm curious to see if the GOP can mount a primary challenge against Trump madville Nov 2017 #25

I think Putin hacked the GOP primaries. If they can get a clean vote this time, who might beat Trump Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #27

Never happen. cwydro Nov 2017 #28

And all the pundits said Trump would never Butterflylady Nov 2017 #41

Sadly, my mother predicted his win. cwydro Nov 2017 #44

I love Bernie, but I'd really like to see the next generation of Dems up at bat. Vinca Nov 2017 #30

How about we try a true progressive over a centrist... tomp Nov 2017 #34

He's not as Progressive as he claims to be. Wwcd Nov 2017 #42

I would so love a real progressive. I am sick of GOP lite. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #57

Who is it you are calling "GOP lite?" sheshe2 Nov 2017 #90

Look at some of the Dems who fought Obama on healthcare and other issues. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #94

So you are condemning Democrats with a broad brush...on a Democratic board? sheshe2 Nov 2017 #99

And they are gone...replaced by Republicans but are we better off without them in the minority.? Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #268

Kind of like "neo liberal" mcar Nov 2017 #101

GOP lite might be the "progressive Republicans" lapucelle Nov 2017 #103

To young to remember McGovern? GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #96

Nixon beat McGovern. How'd that work out? Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #125

You make my point GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #135

"I'm a dreamer and I'm not the only one." Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #138

Respect that and agree GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #156

Good tune...but our country has lurched right...not unlike the 90's when Clinton stopped 16 years Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #269

Gosh a progressive lost 45 years ago? Kentonio Nov 2017 #280

I was mainly responding to the complaint we had never run a progressive GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #292

Yikes, looks by the responses being a progressive is not popular ........ sigh. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #123

I am a progressive...I simply don't agree with you...it is better to win...we don't have the Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #272

I'm sick of centrists, too, but surely we've got some progressives under 75. Vinca Nov 2017 #140

Sanders support is very weak. He is only +6 against Trump in polling right now. Anyone with Sanders stevenleser Nov 2017 #166

I'm finished with the male candidates delisen Nov 2017 #75

Trump won't be running in 2020. n/t NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #31

I predict that he will. He can't stand not to be the center of attention. StevieM Nov 2017 #208

It's not up to him. NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #216

Why would tanking poll numbers be a problem when they are clearly fake numbers ginned up StevieM Nov 2017 #218

The PTB in the GOP ... NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #222

What I am saying is that GOP voters who like Trump will not believe that they are in the minority. StevieM Nov 2017 #224

What difference does it make ... NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #235

I certainly appreciate all the work you are putting into your very thoughtful posts. StevieM Nov 2017 #242

... NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #249

I thought I addressed the question you posed when I said that Trump has a floor IMO. StevieM Nov 2017 #278

Think of it this way NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #302

Well I certainly feel guilty for not putting as much thought or effort into my posts as StevieM Nov 2017 #307

The GOP can keep him ... NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #308

Neither will be running in 2020 TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #33

I predict that Trump and Sanders will both run. Biden too. StevieM Nov 2017 #209

Harvard-Harris on line poll??? sheshe2 Nov 2017 #35

Haaha..really! There it is again. Been proven skewed many times & yet if its all ya got I guess Wwcd Nov 2017 #46

That poll keeps coming up and has been debunked. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #55

That's all we should be looking at now. Without a 2018 super win, Wwcd Nov 2017 #61

It's incredible that they would actually publish that as if it was a regular, scientifically StevieM Nov 2017 #110

I predict... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #43

I predict the exact opposite. StevieM Nov 2017 #170

... LexVegas Nov 2017 #48

Neither get the red out Nov 2017 #52

Well, let's just do away with primaries then. alarimer Nov 2017 #54

Boy...Talk About Killing The Incentive To Vote Me. Nov 2017 #56

According to The Hill lapucelle Nov 2017 #60

article title: How Dem insiders rank the 2020 contenders............ riversedge Nov 2017 #65

Article content: lapucelle Nov 2017 #70

++++++++ R B Garr Nov 2017 #121

All sheshe2 Nov 2017 #141

Why. The Hill talked to fewer than 12 anonymous Democrats lapucelle Nov 2017 #233

Good Lord no! PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #62

Ummm... sheshe2 Nov 2017 #142

I know. And that sort of concerns me. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #151

The two potential candidates I like the most, Tom Steyer and Jay Inslee, are both over 60. StevieM Nov 2017 #212

E Warren will be over 71 in 2020. lapucelle Nov 2017 #154

Yes, And Bernie Sanders, whose name is at the top of this thread, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #160

I can't imagine that HRC or John Kerry will run again. But I also cannot imagine that StevieM Nov 2017 #211

oy librechik Nov 2017 #66

Starting the primary wars a bit early, are we? TreasonousBastard Nov 2017 #77

Works for me. jalan48 Nov 2017 #80

Yes, because Democratic strategists are always such worthy prognosticators. RelativelyJones Nov 2017 #89

. ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #91

+1 nt Skidmore Nov 2017 #106

The Russians would absolutely love that. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #95

As for me, I will only vote for a member of the Democratic Party GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #97

Hillary voters will not vote for Sanders and he will need them. TRUMP 8 years it looks like nt Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #100

Wait? What? Those who begged, asked, and demanded unity won't unify.... aikoaiko Nov 2017 #173

There was never unity nt Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #175

If Sanders was the nominee, I would vote for him of course...but I won't vote for him Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #270

Jeebus, I wish these prognosticators would take a walk, or eat a delicious cupcake before they.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #102

And He Would Throw The Democratic Party Under The Bus Along the Way... TomCADem Nov 2017 #104

I voted for Sanders in last year's primary .. ananda Nov 2017 #105

+1000 I walked precincts for Bernie in 2015/2016 when the temperature was in single digits. LongTomH Nov 2017 #112

LOLOLOL Maven Nov 2017 #109

No, nearly a dozen. murielm99 Nov 2017 #177

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Nov 2017 #187

Have we run out of Democrats? traladeda Nov 2017 #111

I can name half a dozen strong up-and-coming Dems in California alone Hekate Nov 2017 #129

I would be very surprised to see either of them nominated DFW Nov 2017 #119

Wish we had a Justin Trudeau Lunabell Nov 2017 #122

*This* Democrat says no. Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #124

Darn, I have to wash my hair that night. Lil Missy Nov 2017 #127

Oh for the love of Pete Hekate Nov 2017 #128

No, just no n/t riverwalker Nov 2017 #130

Done with the old... Historic NY Nov 2017 #134

This is not because Bernie is some attractive magnetic figure. "It's his policies, stupid." elehhhhna Nov 2017 #137

NEWSWEEK (quoting a dubious source that "polled" fewer than 12 anonymous people): lapucelle Nov 2017 #144

I hope not. PragmaticLiberal Nov 2017 #147

are there any Bots posting in this thread? please let me know juxtaposed Nov 2017 #155

Well THAT is NOT going to happen! democratisphere Nov 2017 #158

"The survey, conducted by the Hill," that also commissions those monthly Harvard-Harris polls ucrdem Nov 2017 #159

Bernie will be the next POTUS. ZX86 Nov 2017 #161

OK Me. Nov 2017 #162

May I join you? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #163

Please Do Me. Nov 2017 #167

Me too, me. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #190

It's More Than Laughable Me. Nov 2017 #193

And by "...a whole lot of Dems" you mean the vocal but tiny minority ZX86 Nov 2017 #195

Those ratings are among voters in Vermont only, NOT "the nation". Why not give us the link? George II Nov 2017 #197

I Mean Those Me. Nov 2017 #198

Where is the link? sheshe2 Nov 2017 #214

It really doesn't matter whether you personally accept Bernie's popularity or not. ZX86 Nov 2017 #234

Your tip could be reversed, too. George II Nov 2017 #293

Bernie's popularity is no laughing matter. ZX86 Nov 2017 #165

Sez You Me. Nov 2017 #168

Too bad they don't vote lunamagica Nov 2017 #182

Don't you mean when they're allowed to vote? ZX86 Nov 2017 #183

GMAB! If anytjing, rhis affected Hillary more than Sanders. There's no way NY would have voted for lunamagica Nov 2017 #194

You can't have both ways. ZX86 Nov 2017 #225

Who is having it both ways? Hillary beat Sanders by 4 million votes, lunamagica Nov 2017 #251

2016 primaries are history. ZX86 Nov 2017 #256

Mark my words. Bernard Sanders will NEVER be president lunamagica Nov 2017 #257

Vermont doesnt have free health care. R B Garr Nov 2017 #283

Nope. Michelle Obama and Joe Biden kick his ass in a popularity contest. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #291

If he was that popular...he would have been the Democratic nominee. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #196

The same can be said for Hilliary in the previous general election. ZX86 Nov 2017 #227

She won the popular vote by more than three million votes. That's popular lunamagica Nov 2017 #252

That is true...in fact I supported Pres. Obama and worked for his campaign...it was a much closer Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #277

There are a number of politicians who can do so. George II Nov 2017 #200

Well they better hurry up and get on the stick. ZX86 Nov 2017 #226

Wanna bet? $100 to your favorite charity. Adrahil Nov 2017 #171

I do MFM008 Nov 2017 #176

The most popular politician will be the next POTUS. ZX86 Nov 2017 #180

If it is as simple as that then why??? sheshe2 Nov 2017 #191

Then by all means... sheshe2 Nov 2017 #215

I don't post links Bernie's popularity polls ZX86 Nov 2017 #228

So... sheshe2 Nov 2017 #231

I post links all the time. ZX86 Nov 2017 #236

Ah. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #239

There are 28 million Americans that Obamacare has left behind. ZX86 Nov 2017 #241

Ah. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #246

I'm not a Republican. ZX86 Nov 2017 #250

Where do you get this "most popular politician in the country" stuff? George II Nov 2017 #232

Common knowledge. ZX86 Nov 2017 #237

Common to whom? sheshe2 Nov 2017 #247

People who read news articles. ZX86 Nov 2017 #254

The Harris Poll, commissioned and paid for by THe Hill lapucelle Nov 2017 #238

I don't believe Sen. Sanders is the most popular politician...I see no evidence of this. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #309

Bernie may be the next president, we'll have to wait and see, but it is crazy to think that StevieM Nov 2017 #220

The last POTUS was a Black man. ZX86 Nov 2017 #229

No he won't. He doesn't have enough support..and will only act as a spoiler if he runs regardless Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #274

Ive heard enough about the millionayuhs and billionayuhs and the one puhcent on Wall Shtreet VOX Nov 2017 #294

How about Jay Inslee (gov of WA) and Eric Schneiderman? jmowreader Nov 2017 #172

I love Jay Inslee and I think he should run. But it looks like he might sit it out. StevieM Nov 2017 #221

He looks good, but in our party a candidate has to have lived a completely pure life jmowreader Nov 2017 #223

I for one would welcome a Sanders presidency, but I hope a new generation steps forward. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #174

I feel the same way mvd Nov 2017 #178

Doubt It DarthDem Nov 2017 #179

To the writer: Please send me what you are smoking hibbing Nov 2017 #181

lol! Quayblue Nov 2017 #240

This article feels like someone trying to bring back avocado appliances BoneyardDem Nov 2017 #184

Good One Me. Nov 2017 #203

hope for Ds 50 people say they will run to make Rs spread thin & spend billions "donor money" Sunlei Nov 2017 #185

Works for me. Go Bernie! Kentonio Nov 2017 #186

Neither Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders will win the Democratic primary...given the divisive effect of Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #188

If he did, that would mean the party he was so quick to disassociate himself with after the still_one Nov 2017 #201

I am hoping he will be told he will not run as a Democrats...we may lose if he runs at all, Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #275

No thanks. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #192

If he is the one nominated I will vote for him Generic Other Nov 2017 #199

Don't we have anyone older doc03 Nov 2017 #202

Biden is a year younger. I expect Biden and Sanders both to run. StevieM Nov 2017 #219

Maybe figuratively speaking loyalsister Nov 2017 #204

Excellant analysis. ZX86 Nov 2017 #248

Does all caps make it truer, or just louder? n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #210

Uh, he'll have to win the primary first, and MineralMan Nov 2017 #213

That is my thinking as well. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #276

Allow me to help you there. Kentonio Nov 2017 #281

See, I know that. However, I don't think so. MineralMan Nov 2017 #286

yeah sure.. lol JHan Nov 2017 #217

This is not going to be reality. herding cats Nov 2017 #243

Because Democrats have no viable candidates in their 40s? doodsaq Nov 2017 #244

I have an idea. Why don't we focus all of our energy on 2018 instead of 2020? Yavin4 Nov 2017 #245

So he is gonna be a Democrat again doc03 Nov 2017 #253

He agreed to remain a Democrat but didn't so I honestly don't think he can run as a Democrat... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #273

Bugger Billy Jingo Nov 2017 #255

New blood in their 40s mshasta Nov 2017 #259

I'd prefer an actual Democrat running xmas74 Nov 2017 #261

Just the suggestion MontanaMama Nov 2017 #262

Lolz...no. JNelson6563 Nov 2017 #264

What a terrific way to guarantee another 4 years of Republican White House! Orrex Nov 2017 #266

Can we stop with the white man savior crap all american girl Nov 2017 #267

Amen and hallelujah! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #271

I'm blushing right now all american girl Nov 2017 #279

Bravo Me. Nov 2017 #284

By all means GaryCnf Nov 2017 #289

I have no idea what you are talking about all american girl Nov 2017 #290

And I'm talking about a future GaryCnf Nov 2017 #295

The thing that cost us the most radical noodle Nov 2017 #296

That doesn't explain GaryCnf Nov 2017 #297

There were a great deal of people who were vulnerable to that radical noodle Nov 2017 #298

As opposed to, GaryCnf Nov 2017 #299

For instance (?) n/t radical noodle Nov 2017 #300

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #282

Interesting to see people are still fighting thus xmas74 Nov 2017 #285

interesting, yes. depressing. sad. stlsaxman Nov 2017 #310

No problem. xmas74 Nov 2017 #312

What about Warren? Kennedy? xmas74 Nov 2017 #287

Coronation? Let the people decide JCMach1 Nov 2017 #288

They only polled like 12 Democratic insiders TreeStarsForever Nov 2017 #304

Eh....no Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2017 #311