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In reply to the discussion: In 18 years since Naders run, what has been accomplished by attacking the Dem party from the left? [View all]virtualobserver
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and I saw George Bush's face as they declared him the winner, it felt like death to me.
What I didn't know at the time was that it would mean actual death for many American soldiers, and quite a few others on planet earth.
As I have watched Republican behavior in the years since, I realize that if 9/11 had happened while Gore was President, it would have been quite a different experience. The difference between the way that the two parties behave could not be greater. Republicans would have impeached Gore at a minimum, and none of the unity shown by Democrats would have existed in Republicans. They would have labeled him a traitor.
Republicans also have no shame when it comes to issuing pardons. That is what worries me the most about our current situation with Trump. No one remembers that on December 25, 1992, as a lame duck, Daddy Bush pardoned former Sec. of Defense Weinberger and 5 others. People don't even remember Scooter Libby taking the fall for Cheney, with the pardon from George W. Bush.
If Obama had pardoned anyone....Hillary for example....for jaywalking in D.C.....Republicans would still be talking about it 20 years from now.
I know that I come on strong with my criticisms of the Democratic Party, but I feel that they do not hold Republicans responsible for their words and actions.
Here are some examples that eat away at my soul.
Deficit Reduction Act of 1993 - This raised taxes and cut spending - Republicans predicted economic disaster and every Republican in Congress voted against it. The quotes that I remember were Republicans saying that this would lead to a expansion in the deficit, and create a new Great Depression.
What actually happened was an economic boom, and an elimination of the deficit...an actual surplus in years 7 and 8.
The 2000 election was then about the $4.6 trillion in projected federal budget surpluses.
2001 and 2003 Bush Tax Cuts - The Republicans said that they would create an economic boom.
What actually happened? As Bush left office...the monthly deficit was 1.3 Trillion, and we were losing 700,000 jobs a month...
The same thing was done in 1925.....crash by 1929.
Why would any sane person vote Republican if they knew these details?
Statistics work. ex: 22 million lose health care in Republican plan - 12 percent support in polls.
The contrast between Republicans and Democrats is stark...
I don't propose reframing because I want to harm Democrats....I want them to properly frame issues so that they can destroy Republicans. You have to break their frame to defeat them, and Democrats have been using their conservative language at times which strengthens their frame. I may not convince anyone of this, but I believe it, so I will keep saying it.