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139. Sanders implied the Dems would politicize the Russian investigation - he floated the possibility

Fri May 12, 2017, 03:59 PM

May 2017

That there's nothing there- this week!!- while the obstruction and lies are turned to 11?!? WTF- other Dems are calling it obstruction of justice and demanding answers- others are talking about how unhinged and dangerous Trump is! That's not politicizing anything- that's being honest and tough and not normalizing what is going on. Our nation is having a crisis and it is not time to say, meh it might be nothing. Weak ass bullsht.

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(Raw Story/Newsweek) Bernie Sanders endorsement labeled colossal mistake [View all] still_one May 2017 OP

Wise words that apply to the entire nation and national political races. democratisphere May 2017 #1

Don't know about that, but the Nebraska prof's views did KPN May 2017 #83

Didn't all the candidates he backed in 2016 lose too? brush May 2017 #89

No. KPN May 2017 #113

He backed Gabbard? God! brush May 2017 #114

Who were the state and local candidates who won? Gothmog May 2017 #117

Well, Joe Salazar in Colorado for one -- State Rep. But ... KPN May 2017 #147

He also said, Trump may not have colluded with he Russians and Dems need lay off the Russia thing. fun n serious May 2017 #2

Oh really? Do you have a link to where he said to lay off the Russia thing? beam me up scottie May 2017 #3

Nope, they don't because he didn't actually say that. Agschmid May 2017 #6

Exactly. It's ridiculous. beam me up scottie May 2017 #7

It's ridiculous to suppose there was no collusion. He ASKED them for hacks, he GAVE them bettyellen May 2017 #44

Then you'll agree it's a good thing Bernie didn't say that either. beam me up scottie May 2017 #46

Senators are absolutely speculating about collusion and I agree! Waters, Cummings, Schumer have all bettyellen May 2017 #51

So that's a no, senators are not claiming there was definitely collusion. beam me up scottie May 2017 #55

That's a Breitbart headline you're trying to sell here, LOL. bettyellen May 2017 #57

I wasn't aware that Breitbart was suggesting there was collision and demanding an investigation. beam me up scottie May 2017 #60

Bernie speculated that it could be a nothingburger, Waters said... bettyellen May 2017 #62

Wait, what? Demanding an investigation is speculating that it's nothing? beam me up scottie May 2017 #67

Watch the video- he says if it's nothing, Dems have to accept that.... bettyellen May 2017 #68

So he didn't suggest that it's a nothing burger? We agree - that's what I thought too! beam me up scottie May 2017 #70

He did speculate that the investigation would turn up nothing AND Dems would try and bettyellen May 2017 #71

Bernie simply said it could turn up nothing and he's right. He didn't suggest there was no collusio. beam me up scottie May 2017 #74

"It could" IS speculation . Stop wasting my time with this baloney. Bye! bettyellen May 2017 #75

I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be angry at Bernie. beam me up scottie May 2017 #76

"I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be angry at Bernie." QC May 2017 #112

Indeed. beam me up scottie May 2017 #120

Not for me, QC, but I confess I am angry for other reasons. But this thread Hortensis May 2017 #121

This is the best post in the thread. QC May 2017 #122

It is all about 2017-2018 to me- and supporting Dems for congress and governors... bettyellen May 2017 #128

Ding.. ding.. disillusioned73 May 2017 #125

For some, it is still 2016. It will always be 2016. n/t QC May 2017 #126

Agreed.. disillusioned73 May 2017 #127

It's 2017 and some are parroting the RW nonsense that maybe there's nothing to bettyellen May 2017 #130

No one has accused the Democrats of politicizing this. QC May 2017 #132

Well said. Especially that last part. beam me up scottie May 2017 #133

It's one of those things we've always slammed Republicans for doing. QC May 2017 #134

You're right, Republicans believed every horrible rumour about Hillary for decades. beam me up scottie May 2017 #138

Oh please. I'm sick of this word parsing nonsense. The media uses bettyellen May 2017 #135

What some call "word parsing" others of us call "reading." QC May 2017 #136

Sanders implied the Dems would politicize the Russian investigation - he floated the possibility bettyellen May 2017 #139

+1000, and on top of that, he outright said that people don't have faith in Democrats R B Garr May 2017 #141

Yeah, I think this passive aggressive distancing himself is embarrassing only to himself- bettyellen May 2017 #142

Exactly, QC. beam me up scottie May 2017 #131

stop lying about bettyellen CreekDog May 2017 #150

My GOD you have patience! MuseRider May 2017 #153

Wait, when did Bernie say Trump could get R B Garr May 2017 #97

+1 KPN May 2017 #87

No one has claimed "there was definitely collusion". That's why... George II May 2017 #123

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #61

Where did he say to "lay off" Russia? Please post the exact text. beam me up scottie May 2017 #66

Except not really... WoonTars May 2017 #4

He also said, Trump may not have colluded with he Russians and Dems need lay off the Russia thing. LenaBaby61 May 2017 #72

Do you have a link to where he said to lay off Russia? The other poster didn't provide one. beam me up scottie May 2017 #77

Do you have a link to where he said to lay off Russia? The other poster didn't provide one. LenaBaby61 May 2017 #78

So you were simply repeating their allegation? Gotcha! Thanks! beam me up scottie May 2017 #79

Yep .... LenaBaby61 May 2017 #80

Huh? Source? KPN May 2017 #84

That's the opinion of Paul Landow...who cares what he says... Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #5

A larger point is brought up in an earlier article from the Omaha World Hearld still_one May 2017 #10

Republicans do everything possible to place their people in state and local offices... Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #12

Good article Gothmog May 2017 #118

No, the 1% used him, so they liked his success. R B Garr May 2017 #11

Wrong...on all accounts... Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #16

No, it's all over the news what the Russian meddling R B Garr May 2017 #19

Credible "link" please. Thank you. George II May 2017 #36

Here is an idea... go look at the Democratic Platform... Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #38

You said "Sanders is hugely popular with Americans". How do you know this? George II May 2017 #39

I'll play your game... How do you not know this...? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #40

I didn't present the notion, you did. It's not a game, just as it isn't a game.... George II May 2017 #41

Thanks for playing... Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #42

George isn't playing Cha May 2017 #96

Would be interesting if they could quantify how many were/are actually bots- bettyellen May 2017 #144

BS is not hugely popular with everyone.. Cha May 2017 #69

Agreed Gothmog May 2017 #111

I'd go so far as to say.. NastyRiffraff May 2017 #146

The 50 state strategy is not Motownman78 May 2017 #13

What? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #18

Credible "link" please. Thank you. George II May 2017 #37

Who is... sheshe2 May 2017 #116

To one degree or another, anyone and everyone commenting LanternWaste May 2017 #115

Those attacking Sanders made abortion the #1 issue in a conservative leaning race kristopher May 2017 #124

Another.. disillusioned73 May 2017 #129

I agree with your tag line... Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #140

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Ignoring the fact that the Washington Examiner is a right wing paper, the Omaha World Hearld asked a still_one May 2017 #14

I had no idea. I suppose NARAL and other prochoice groups DIDN"T come out against him m-lekktor May 2017 #23

Are you saying that Sanders caused Mello to lose? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #25

I don't think that is what the poster is saying, in fact just the opposite. That NARAL, Perez, and still_one May 2017 #31

What part of "It's all Bernie's fault I am sure " is unclear to you? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #33

What does abortion have to do with a mayoral race? It has nothing to do with it, nor can a mayor still_one May 2017 #29

Stop plastering the forum with right wing click bait for fucks sake. JTFrog May 2017 #143

Here's my biggest issue with the "unity" tour... Docreed2003 May 2017 #9

It looks like he picks candidates based on whether R B Garr May 2017 #15

I guess I am and I'm not blaming Dems... Docreed2003 May 2017 #20

Bernie had a progressive agenda and keeps hammering at it. Akamai May 2017 #58

So back to reality. Reality is that the 1% global oligarchs used him because.... R B Garr May 2017 #82

There are lots of Democrats who disagree with the things you state! GulfCoast66 May 2017 #90

BS threw needless shade on Jon Ossoff on Election Cha May 2017 #100

Yes, he's very self-serving in his "outreach". R B Garr May 2017 #104

We need a new Director of Outreach.. here's a thought.. Cha May 2017 #105

Yeah, someone who doesn't tout a damaging R B Garr May 2017 #106

Yeah, someone who Cha May 2017 #107

Me too! Both Obama and Clinton were relatively R B Garr May 2017 #108

I think you are right on Federal and State races without a doubt. A race for Mayor though is a still_one May 2017 #21

I agree with that assessment... Docreed2003 May 2017 #27

Many of us are Highlighting the Democratic Leaders, Doc.. Cha May 2017 #101

Me too Cha...Me too Docreed2003 May 2017 #103

Yet people were bitching that Bernie wasn't helping Ossoff enough in moderate Georgia. PatsFan87 May 2017 #17

I think dealing with Federal and State candidates is much different than dealing with a Mayoral race still_one May 2017 #22

The topic of that article is a worthy conversation for the party to have. PatsFan87 May 2017 #32

I know you were, and the argument you presented that "why only blame Bernie", when Perez, NARAL and still_one May 2017 #34

Sanders was the root cause of the dustup with NARAL lapucelle May 2017 #43

wasn't aware of that background. Thank-you still_one May 2017 #45

I just edited to post the link to the story from NBC news. lapucelle May 2017 #49

........ still_one May 2017 #50

And here's a link to a NYT story for further details. lapucelle May 2017 #65

Exactly! Bernie backed Mello -- bad. Bernie did not back Ossoff -- bad. Jim Lane May 2017 #28

The problem is that protecting lapucelle May 2017 #53

No, the problem is that the Democratic Party actually is a big tent. Jim Lane May 2017 #88

The fact that the Democratic Party is a big tent is not a problem, lapucelle May 2017 #109

Let me clarify "problem" Jim Lane May 2017 #155

Either Sanders knew Mello's position lapucelle May 2017 #156

You have absolutely no basis for your smear of Sanders. Jim Lane May 2017 #157

Then why not at least support Ossoff against a field of Republicans? lapucelle May 2017 #158

You imputed bad motives to Bernie without evidence. That's a smear. Jim Lane May 2017 #159

Saying that people (including politicians) lapucelle May 2017 #160

Of course politicians weigh various factors. Jim Lane May 2017 #161

Sanders wasn't helping Ossoff at all. lapucelle May 2017 #48

No, it was that he declined to say if Osoff was "progressive enough" - passive aggressive bullshit bettyellen May 2017 #54

Yep. nt EarthFirst May 2017 #56

"Bitching" oh ouch! lol BS said he didn't even know who Cha May 2017 #98

Elections results cannot be explained logically unless the voting process is transparent diva77 May 2017 #24

I just wish the guy would go away. moda253 May 2017 #26

What an absurd double standard. Jim Lane May 2017 #30

Yup! His issues are critical. Akamai May 2017 #64

Nice post! KPN May 2017 #86

Thanks -- but Bernie and others said it --I just repeat their words. Akamai May 2017 #92

Yes, but one reason they're critical is that there's less consensus than you suggest Jim Lane May 2017 #91

Good point but I don't know why the most exemplary Pelosi disagrees on Akamai May 2017 #93

Yes, we should keep pushing ALL of them. Jim Lane May 2017 #102

A most excellent critique, and I agree 1000%. Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #35

Yep.. he's not helping. Cha May 2017 #99

I wonder if the people cackling over this story will continue QC May 2017 #47

Bernie would not go over well in Georgia, imo. cwydro May 2017 #63

I think so as well. We're talking about Newt Gingrich's old district. n/t QC May 2017 #73

"cackling".. yeah right.. no one wanted Mello to lose. It wasn't that BS Cha May 2017 #95

The rally was not just for Heath Mello, other candidates for local elections in Lincoln and Omaha Donkees May 2017 #52

Moderates are hyper about the Socialist label bucolic_frolic May 2017 #59

No John Birch Society knuckle-dragger ever hated progressives more QC May 2017 #137

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It sure was! JNelson6563 May 2017 #81

he would have lost anyways JI7 May 2017 #85

Ironically Obama carried Omaha Twice.. it's a small blue Cha May 2017 #94

Interesting article Gothmog May 2017 #110

It was most ... NurseJackie May 2017 #119

That's a rather loose definition of "colossal" mythology May 2017 #145

Yeah there's something bizarre going on with Sanders rockfordfile May 2017 #148

Thanks for nothing, Bernie. Again. Paladin May 2017 #151

I don't think Bernie's endorsement was a mistake. dawg May 2017 #152

I voted for Sanders in the Primary, but something's wrong with him rockfordfile May 2017 #154