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In reply to the discussion: I've been told my equal rights just aren't pragmatic [View all]BainsBane
(53,154 posts)120. How do you suppose economic justice is achieved
while half the population slips into even greater poverty? That's not economic justice.
Bernie did not simply cast a vote for a Democrat. He chose to anoint Mello as a "progressive," to bestow his time and approval on him, over thousands of other Democrats around the country. It is the second time he has endorsed a pro-life candidate. And here we have "progressives" defending Mello and his anti-choice agenda, dishonestly comparing his sponsorship of legislation restricting a woman's right to chose with personal qualms about abortion. The clear effect is to deprioritize women's rights.
"If we are going to protect a woman's right to choose, at the end of the day we're going to need Democratic control over the House and the Senate, and state governments all over this nation," he said. "And we have got to appreciate where people come from, and do our best to fight for the pro-choice agenda. But I think you just can't exclude people who disagree with us on one issue."
http://www.npr.org/2017/04/20/524962482/sanders-defends-campaigning-for-anti-abortion-rights-democrat
http://www.npr.org/2017/04/20/524962482/sanders-defends-campaigning-for-anti-abortion-rights-democrat
Why hold Democrats to a minor issue such as the rights of half the population when the more important measure is railing about corporations?
Obviously your position is not that reproductive rights are on par with other issues you value or you would not being making excuses for undermining them.
It's revealing to see how all this clamoring for economic justice isn't about equality or justice at all but increased wealth for a demographic that already earns more than the rest of the population. That amounts to worsening inequality, not justice.
But guess what? You're shit out of luck. Women are the majority voters in the Democratic Party, and we are using our power to shut down efforts to turn the clock back. Women's rights activists forced the DNC to retreat from its support of Mellow, and Perez issued a statement making clear that abortion rights were central to being a Democrat. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028965101
I'm so sorry you feel oppressed by not voting for Donald Trump. It must be awful to find out other people in this country actually have a vote too. But at least the evil war hawk failed and you don't have to worry about wimenz imposing sanctions or no-fly zones.
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Amazing how some "progressives" are saying that we need to be practical about social justice...
hrmjustin
Apr 2017
#1
Very true. I think sometimes some of these purity progressives are just not what they claim to be.
hrmjustin
Apr 2017
#4
women's rights have ALWAYS had to take a back seat to everything and everyone else under
niyad
Apr 2017
#56
Very true. One would think we could find allies in the Black and GLBTQ communities
BlancheSplanchnik
Apr 2017
#79
Can't believe they're still pushing the idea that women and people of color are just incidental.
Squinch
Apr 2017
#12
It feels like we had climbed the branches and had the apple in our hands, and now we've fallen
Squinch
Apr 2017
#44
I agree with all of this. On the bright side, I do think that people are getting energized
Squinch
Apr 2017
#99
Well, it isn't economics for a "certain segment," unless that segment is 99 percent of americans.
JCanete
Apr 2017
#59
what? When talking about economics, women are not being excluded. By increasing
JCanete
Apr 2017
#74
Do you read the newspapers? Have you heard about this prominent leader on the left who is pushing
Squinch
Apr 2017
#52
I was just told that "money makes the world go around" when I made the same case.
boston bean
Apr 2017
#18
Bain, I am so upset at this. What part of WOMEN'S MARCH did they fail to understand?!
Hekate
Apr 2017
#21
There is nothing at all "progressive" about abandoning the rights of more than half the country.
Foamfollower
Apr 2017
#22
Did you see Krystal Ball (what an egocentric choice of names, BTW) on AM Joy this morning?
George II
Apr 2017
#25
k and r. I have been appalled by that thinking coming out of what are supposedly "progressive"
niyad
Apr 2017
#54
I am not on social media, but absolutely disgusted by some of the stuff that is reported here
niyad
Apr 2017
#57
Neither is democracy. As Shrub would intone, a dictatorship is a lot simpler.
no_hypocrisy
Apr 2017
#105
I was told that my concerns for peace and economic equality weren't pragmatic.
Jim Lane
Apr 2017
#118