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Conservative Southern Values Revived: How a Brutal Strain of American Aristocrats Have Come to Rule [View all]
xchrom
Jun 2012
OP
"They hate us for our freedoms" was a bush message that spoke to the evangelicals
Kolesar
Jun 2012
#1
oh yeah, i'm sure bush senior was horrified, absolutely horrified. fucking incubator babies anyone?
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#69
No, I don't really think that has much to do with how many southern conservatives became that way.
antigone382
Jun 2012
#19
"americans" generally are little different from germans, french, mexicans or anyone else. if they
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#70
you don't see it in europe as much because they're more populated than the us -- and because
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#79
people who live in western cities don't personally exploit others (unless they do). what you mean
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#83
collective action has nothing to do with personal shopping choices. and the "average person is
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#85
in general, it's not that significant there either. in france (the country i'm most familiar with)
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#87
i said "on the ascendant". perhaps you haven't been following recent elections. the error is to
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#89
It's not what I or they "know" it's what the hard evidence demonstrates: votes such as the
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#96
As evil as slavery was and is, it is NOT America's original sin. What Europeans
coalition_unwilling
Jul 2012
#114
I understand your point and agree with it. I would merely point out that slavery began
coalition_unwilling
Jul 2012
#119
The southern colonies were founded by Normans seeking to expand the British Empire.
ieoeja
Jun 2012
#23
We had a storm last night...doubt it will do much except raise the humidity.
antigone382
Jul 2012
#110
among the folks extracting profits in appalachia = bouvier ancestors of jackie kennedy.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#68
And whether the promise was true or not of '40 acres and a mule' the plantations should have been...
freshwest
Jun 2012
#65
If you want to know why the working-class whites prefer "Massa's plantation"
DinahMoeHum
Jun 2012
#7
50,000 "Redleg" Irish Slaves were deported to Barbados by Cromwell from 1649-1660
leveymg
Jun 2012
#44
Odd that they would put WW in that list. He was Southern-born and -raised:
eppur_se_muova
Jun 2012
#47
that should clue us in that the author hasn't taken much trouble with her article. just bs.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#72
I really take issue with the argument that the problem is the wrong set of elites taking power.
antigone382
Jun 2012
#25
It's easy to be one when you can't drink the water in your own community...
antigone382
Jun 2012
#32
The fundamental premise of the article is that the wrong elites are in power.
antigone382
Jun 2012
#35
looking at the elites in power (the ones who let us see them, at any rate), they seem a pretty
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#75
+1. it's because the northern elites exploited first and exploited more thoroughly that they got
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#73
bush 1 simply had better manners than bush 2; he was every bit as brutal. cia, gulf war,
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#74
Fantastic post. I love how the bigotry, racism and ignorance of the North are somehow minimized
Number23
Jul 2012
#104
C. Vann Woodward's seminal "The Strange Career of Jim Crow" (1955) notes
coalition_unwilling
Jul 2012
#115
A variation on the "Cowboy Capitalists versus the Eastern Establishment" analysis of the 1960s.
leveymg
Jun 2012
#28
And the irony is that most of them would have been staring at the ass end of a mule from sunup to...
Tom Ripley
Jul 2012
#103
Evangelicals are strongest in Riverside and Orange Counties, altho
coalition_unwilling
Jul 2012
#117
