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107. I thought the same...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:57 AM
Nov 2015

... and wrote an entire piece based around it. You can read it here

I was thinking about high school shooters when I wrote,

"random acts of faceless violence are a consequence of being part of a faceless system. The system is to blame for that, itself, for making it easy (or even desirable) to achieve such gruesome 'fame'."

"...think of all those little kids who'll grow up surrounded by that atmosphere of fear and mistrust, where the only way to express anything is by whipping out a gun in a public place, and firing till you get taken down in a blaze of 'glory'."

so I reckon you're on the right track. They're definitely all part of the same dysfunctional type. The biggest difference between them is:

1) When a lone gunman shoots up a high school full of innocent teens, private gun ownership doesn't get banned

2) When a lone terrorist kills someone (or even attempts to) human rights get suspended across the country and/or martial law ensues.

That's because the lawmakers identify with person 1) and not person 2). It's also because they can earn more money by persecuting 2) and letting 1) go on unchecked.

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Automatic weapons are extremely rare in America hack89 Nov 2015 #2
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No, there are very few automatic weapons in the US outside of military and law enforcement Recursion Nov 2015 #6
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Yes you are right Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #34
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Semi-automatic weapons are common. Automatic weapons are extremely rare. Nt hack89 Nov 2015 #9
More than a few semi-automatics can be easily converted to full 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #84
not anything manufactured after 1986 as Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #88
Yet they never seem to be used in crimes hack89 Nov 2015 #94
Ban semi-auto weapons Abouttime Nov 2015 #97
A solution grounded in legal, cultural and political reality hack89 Nov 2015 #98
2 more justices on the Supreme Court Abouttime Nov 2015 #100
The 2A allows most, if not all, of the gun control you want hack89 Nov 2015 #101
Number of automatic weapons manufactured for the civillian market since 1987. . . . . Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #11
Which makes the ones available Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #27
Like your semiautos can't blast away at 60+ rounds per minute. But you knew most Hoyt Nov 2015 #36
Just pointing out some basic facts. That's all. hack89 Nov 2015 #40
Yep. And further restricting *automatic* weapons won't help that Recursion Nov 2015 #47
Restricting semi-autos would. As would changing the perception of yahoo gun fanciers. Hoyt Nov 2015 #62
Indeed it would. If the party ever got off its ass and got behind that I would support it. Recursion Nov 2015 #67
I agree with that, although I do question the sanity of those who are attracted to rifles with Hoyt Nov 2015 #78
The guys who trick out their ARs use them to hold flashlights Recursion Nov 2015 #79
They make damn fine hunting rifles. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #96
Yeah, but most people do not hunt, unless you include people as prey. And who needs a Hi Cap Hoyt Nov 2015 #105
I'll bet they're extremely rare in Europe, too. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #102
They exist - heavily regulated and taxed. hack89 Nov 2015 #103
Full auto weapons are very rare Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #14
How many rounds per minute can you blast away with your gunz? Hoyt Nov 2015 #39
I do not rapid fire Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #42
There have been no mass shootings in America with automatic weapons hack89 Nov 2015 #3
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Give me a link. You will quickly see your error. Nt. hack89 Nov 2015 #7
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No mention of automatic weapons there. Nt hack89 Nov 2015 #20
He is wrong and he knows it Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #25
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Yes. hack89 Nov 2015 #28
Funny, but it just proves you were wrong Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #23
You're linking to a post that has nothig to do with the discussion???? GP6971 Nov 2015 #50
My guess is he is trying to get a hide on one of us Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #57
Probably GP6971 Nov 2015 #77
Or cranking up the post count until he can OP (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #81
well he is done in this thread Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #90
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Here is your link GP6971 Nov 2015 #73
You linked to a post about places in the US named after Confederate generals Recursion Nov 2015 #80
Earth. None of the mass shootings in the past several decades have used automatic weapons (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #8
I live on earth Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #16
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Semi-autos. The point remains. Dozens dead is dozens fucking dead. morningfog Nov 2015 #10
Sounds like France should ban guns. . . . . . Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #12
Ok. Nt hack89 Nov 2015 #13
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Not really, it's called being factual Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #19
FFS if you care about gun legislation you should learn this very basic difference Recursion Nov 2015 #41
I know just how you feel Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #45
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I am morally certain you have no idea what the assault weapons ban did Recursion Nov 2015 #51
Bayonet lugs Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #65
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Moral certainty is between practical certainty and apodeictic certainty Recursion Nov 2015 #86
So you prefer bans on cosmetic features Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #54
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And once again the fail Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #75
It's been done. It did fuck-all to lower crime rates. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #56
You know the rifle used in Sandy Hook Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #60
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Just wanted to see if you actually Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #68
I would not be surprised Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #17
North Hollywood 97... deathrind Nov 2015 #22
Yep. Bank robbery in which only the robbers were killed. And a dog. Recursion Nov 2015 #59
It... deathrind Nov 2015 #104
No, the fact that that's the only crime they've been used in proves they are rare Recursion Nov 2015 #106
The difference gratuitous Nov 2015 #24
Yes they can Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #31
Or this Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #37
Impressive Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #49
The difference gratuitous Nov 2015 #58
the 30,000 people killed by USA gun owners aren't too concerned about such quibbles nt msongs Nov 2015 #29
2/3 of which are suicides Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #32
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They matter Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #71
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When you lump them all into 'gun violence'... beevul Nov 2015 #91
Well if they want the actual guns that are killing them addressed, they should be Recursion Nov 2015 #35
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For a 24-count poster you've really got derailing down pat Recursion Nov 2015 #44
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I think that's why you see mostly numbness from America marions ghost Nov 2015 #46
I think terrorism is a really good rubric for understanding US mass shootings Recursion Nov 2015 #64
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OK, that's a gratuitous claim that I can equally gratuitously deny Recursion Nov 2015 #76
I'm talking about marions ghost Nov 2015 #82
There's a lot of outrage about mass shootings here, too Recursion Nov 2015 #83
Nah marions ghost Nov 2015 #85
Lots of stuff is done. I know this isn't GD-P, but look at O'Malley after Sandy Hook Recursion Nov 2015 #87
The perception is that marions ghost Nov 2015 #89
It could also be called the Norwegian massacre method (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #52
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It actually resembles pretty strongly the Mumbai attack in 2008. LeftyMom Nov 2015 #92
As of Nov 8--312 days into 2015--there have been 325 mass shootings in the US mnhtnbb Nov 2015 #93
Pretty bogus to cite "body count per attacker" in a coordinated terrorist attack melman Nov 2015 #95
Yes, the similarities are striking JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #99
I thought the same... Unscene Nov 2015 #107
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