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In reply to the discussion: Do you support intelligence tests designed to keep some citizens away from the ballot box? [View all]cali
(114,904 posts)175. what absolute bullshit.
so laughable, Mairead, it's difficult to know where to start:
summary introductions to Kohlberg's stages of ethical development, the concept of "natural rights", and Rawls's theory of justice
So prior to Kohlberg and Rawls, no one voted intelligently?
more and more ridiculous.
I think you should consider taking a course in critical thinking, my friend.
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Do you support intelligence tests designed to keep some citizens away from the ballot box? [View all]
cynatnite
May 2012
OP
Can you decide who is intelligent enough to vote? There is no way you, or I are fit to do that.
CreekDog
May 2012
#65
I would have the tests be designed by esteemed psychologists and sociologists.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#69
will the disenfranchised by wards of the state then? free of taxes and provided care?
CreekDog
May 2012
#72
Many, many experts believe that there is no way to truly judge intelligence in a scientific way
cali
May 2012
#90
I actually started to developed this point of view while working with that community.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#92
OK, we both agree she was a racist, just not an extreme racist. Here is another bit from the link...
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#82
I started a thread on this to see how posters in the AA group feel about her.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#189
Optical scan ballots do, by definition, represent a physical record of each vote
frazzled
May 2012
#7
Perhaps we should have a test based on maturity, experience, and knowledge?
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#85
do people realize that you're advocating for people to be tested for mental illness?
CreekDog
May 2012
#78
yes, and what would a psychologist offer in terms of evaluating one's suitability for voting?
CreekDog
May 2012
#108
They would help design an intelligence test, with the help of sociologists.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#109
In my opinion, the results would include less war, better social safety nets,
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#122
not to mention profoundly anti-democratic (note lower-case 'd'). - n/t
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#141
If 111.23 made you feel better, then I would probably be willing to bend. nt
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#181
I completely agree that the abstract concept of justice can motivate people to act.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#183
Can a dictatorship be benevolent without the right to have oneself represented?
cynatnite
May 2012
#5
"there's no shortage of people who think they or their kind are best qualified to rule"
discntnt_irny_srcsm
May 2012
#31
I'm all for it, as long as I get to be the benevolent despot - n/t
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#143
No one who advocates for stuff like that ever thinks they'd be affected by it
Posteritatis
May 2012
#13
You say "People who recieved a crappy education... have neither the background or the time"
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#26
Weeding out adults who were "working-class kids in an inner-city school" sounds racist in the
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#68
so since we're not a democracy & the rich game the system, let them game it more by excluding
HiPointDem
May 2012
#137
your proposal wouldn't prevent people from voting against their interests (as perceived by you),
HiPointDem
May 2012
#153
Per your second paragraph, this is ABSOLUTELY about engineering election results.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#19
You are describing children, but you are not saying why they should not be allowed to vote.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#52
Yes, we all know that. But why did people restrict voting by age in the Constitution?
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#67
when you suggest a test which would preserve your voting rights and take away others'...
CreekDog
May 2012
#185
I probably shouldn't admit this, since it will probably be a debate stopper,
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#187
Let's be perfectly clear here: you are essentially renouncing the principle of
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#144
That is why I asked whether you were renouncing the 'principle' of 'one man,
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#173
Universal suffrage is an interesting idea, but I have never experienced it.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#182
Um, small point, but 'universal manhood suffrage,' i.e., not children. - n/t
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#186
I would have a team of esteemed psychologists and sociologists write the questions. nt
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#115
amen. I am disgusted and shocked that anyone here believes this to be a good thing.
cali
May 2012
#49
No. there is a mean sub-group difference of one standard deviation on intelligence test
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2012
#74
I find it sickening that even three people would vote yes for such a twisted idea.
marmar
May 2012
#110
Thanks! I just looked at some NC law, and you are right, at least in regard
struggle4progress
May 2012
#131
No. But, I'd like candidates to be attached to lie-detectors when giving speeches.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2012
#125
Lie detectors with high-voltage-dispensing wands when lies are detected. (Nothing
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#147
Lots of democrats apparently want only "smart" dems to vote. No wonder the party's in trouble.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#138
any such test is designed to keep citizens from voting. that's the only purpose. and as such,
HiPointDem
May 2012
#136
I don't support any measure that's intended to prevent any otherwise-eligible citizen from voting.
WillowTree
May 2012
#139
Yes - Because the uninformed are wrecking this country and impacting the rest of the world
dinopipie
May 2012
#158
BFD a typo, I would call you a tool for such a post but that would be against the rules
dinopipie
May 2012
#161