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In reply to the discussion: Do you support intelligence tests designed to keep some citizens away from the ballot box? [View all]ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)35. Should the voting age be lowered to zero? nt
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Do you support intelligence tests designed to keep some citizens away from the ballot box? [View all]
cynatnite
May 2012
OP
Can you decide who is intelligent enough to vote? There is no way you, or I are fit to do that.
CreekDog
May 2012
#65
I would have the tests be designed by esteemed psychologists and sociologists.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#69
will the disenfranchised by wards of the state then? free of taxes and provided care?
CreekDog
May 2012
#72
Many, many experts believe that there is no way to truly judge intelligence in a scientific way
cali
May 2012
#90
I actually started to developed this point of view while working with that community.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#92
OK, we both agree she was a racist, just not an extreme racist. Here is another bit from the link...
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#82
I started a thread on this to see how posters in the AA group feel about her.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#189
Optical scan ballots do, by definition, represent a physical record of each vote
frazzled
May 2012
#7
Perhaps we should have a test based on maturity, experience, and knowledge?
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#85
do people realize that you're advocating for people to be tested for mental illness?
CreekDog
May 2012
#78
yes, and what would a psychologist offer in terms of evaluating one's suitability for voting?
CreekDog
May 2012
#108
They would help design an intelligence test, with the help of sociologists.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#109
In my opinion, the results would include less war, better social safety nets,
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#122
not to mention profoundly anti-democratic (note lower-case 'd'). - n/t
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#141
If 111.23 made you feel better, then I would probably be willing to bend. nt
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#181
I completely agree that the abstract concept of justice can motivate people to act.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#183
Can a dictatorship be benevolent without the right to have oneself represented?
cynatnite
May 2012
#5
"there's no shortage of people who think they or their kind are best qualified to rule"
discntnt_irny_srcsm
May 2012
#31
I'm all for it, as long as I get to be the benevolent despot - n/t
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#143
No one who advocates for stuff like that ever thinks they'd be affected by it
Posteritatis
May 2012
#13
You say "People who recieved a crappy education... have neither the background or the time"
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#26
Weeding out adults who were "working-class kids in an inner-city school" sounds racist in the
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#68
so since we're not a democracy & the rich game the system, let them game it more by excluding
HiPointDem
May 2012
#137
your proposal wouldn't prevent people from voting against their interests (as perceived by you),
HiPointDem
May 2012
#153
Per your second paragraph, this is ABSOLUTELY about engineering election results.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2012
#19
You are describing children, but you are not saying why they should not be allowed to vote.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#52
Yes, we all know that. But why did people restrict voting by age in the Constitution?
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#67
when you suggest a test which would preserve your voting rights and take away others'...
CreekDog
May 2012
#185
I probably shouldn't admit this, since it will probably be a debate stopper,
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#187
Let's be perfectly clear here: you are essentially renouncing the principle of
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#144
That is why I asked whether you were renouncing the 'principle' of 'one man,
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#173
Universal suffrage is an interesting idea, but I have never experienced it.
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#182
Um, small point, but 'universal manhood suffrage,' i.e., not children. - n/t
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#186
I would have a team of esteemed psychologists and sociologists write the questions. nt
ZombieHorde
May 2012
#115
amen. I am disgusted and shocked that anyone here believes this to be a good thing.
cali
May 2012
#49
No. there is a mean sub-group difference of one standard deviation on intelligence test
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2012
#74
I find it sickening that even three people would vote yes for such a twisted idea.
marmar
May 2012
#110
Thanks! I just looked at some NC law, and you are right, at least in regard
struggle4progress
May 2012
#131
No. But, I'd like candidates to be attached to lie-detectors when giving speeches.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2012
#125
Lie detectors with high-voltage-dispensing wands when lies are detected. (Nothing
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#147
Lots of democrats apparently want only "smart" dems to vote. No wonder the party's in trouble.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#138
any such test is designed to keep citizens from voting. that's the only purpose. and as such,
HiPointDem
May 2012
#136
I don't support any measure that's intended to prevent any otherwise-eligible citizen from voting.
WillowTree
May 2012
#139
Yes - Because the uninformed are wrecking this country and impacting the rest of the world
dinopipie
May 2012
#158
BFD a typo, I would call you a tool for such a post but that would be against the rules
dinopipie
May 2012
#161