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Another outrage in Sandra Bland injustice: She couldn’t find $500 bail [View all] G_j Jul 2015 OP

It is indeed sad that her family and friends seem to COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #1

$5000 bail for not using a turn signal? G_j Jul 2015 #2

You know the expression "It's not the crime, it's the coverup"? Igel Jul 2015 #4

$5,000 for being rude seems excessive to me. magical thyme Jul 2015 #124

I think the charge was "assaulting an officer" davidn3600 Jul 2015 #6

which we know was a lie. nt G_j Jul 2015 #7

On one of the major TV networks, it was explained that she truedelphi Jul 2015 #12

It could also mean that he was trying to handcuff her and she jerked away, mythology Jul 2015 #18

You need to look up what the law defines as "assault" COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #25

your defense of police abuse against African Americans G_j Jul 2015 #27

I'm merely pointing out that, on a whole number of important facts COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Jul 2015 #115

Thanks for the right wing perspective. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #29

I wasn't aware that explaining what the Law says COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #31

defending racist police actions? G_j Jul 2015 #33

You know, there's a saying in law that, when the facts COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #34

Oh poppycock tkmorris Jul 2015 #46

Assuming for the sake of argument COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #53

Thank you for doing battle with such an truedelphi Aug 2015 #153

But perhaps more importantly, right now there is a strong belief that when the truedelphi Aug 2015 #152

Hard to say. Juries by and large tend to accord COLGATE4 Aug 2015 #154

Juries by and large tend to not be represenatative of any community. truedelphi Aug 2015 #155

Absolutely not true. Economic hardship is a very difficult COLGATE4 Aug 2015 #156

Sadly, the actual law does provide for police to arrest you for almost anything. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #56

Of course it's not. Except on DU. 840high Jul 2015 #116

Yep. nt COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #117

She couldn't have resisted unless he was arresting her first, so why was he arresting her? n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #51

As I understand the charges, she was charged with 1) assault and 2) resisting arrest. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #55

Tecnically, but we all know the real reason was she dared to be black while driving AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #58

Which is why he was trying to give her a WARNING. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #61

He never told her it was just a warning until he had her handcuffed at that point it was too late to Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #67

So? COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #69

So? What difference would it have made? COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #71

At that point it didn't make any difference he was already arresting her, but a previous driver in a Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #73

Never happen if she wasnt black and we all know it. That is why she is dead, wrong color AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #74

He wouldn't have given her a warning if she wasn't black? COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #75

If she was white he would have hardly noticed the car existed, let alone pulled her over. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #79

And your evidence that this is the case is...? COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #88

Dear lord give me strength AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #89

If you ever find yourself on the wrong side of the law, COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #91

Sure wouldn't hire you brush Jul 2015 #109

Nope. I don't do criminal defense any more. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #113

Again he only stated it was a warning after he already had her in handcuffs, Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #82

He asked her, how she was doing and Bland said she was irritated, that set the officer off, Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #66

if the assault charge was for swinging her elbows after the cuffs were on questionseverything Jul 2015 #76

No. He was arresting her for not complying with his order COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #143

She was charged with assault, which is a CROCK, because he told her he was pnwmom Jul 2015 #139

No, but failure to comply with a lawful order is. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #147

He only told her to exit the car when she refused to put out her cigarette. pnwmom Jul 2015 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #150

On the video we heard her specifically say "Don't touch me." She was probably moving her arm jwirr Jul 2015 #37

As a woman who lived in the Democratically-run city of Chicago and truedelphi Jul 2015 #52

Exactly. I posted elsewhere about the whole police department being fired for rape when I was a kid. jwirr Jul 2015 #62

my first experience with cops involved sexual deviance Quayblue Jul 2015 #140

For 1) assaulting the officer and 2) resisting arrest. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #17

Which we know is all manufactured lies. G_j Jul 2015 #20

And you know that if any one of us white folk had been the one in that car neither of those jwirr Jul 2015 #39

You mean he would have given us a warning? COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #59

Or a ticket. He also would have been polite. jwirr Jul 2015 #63

My point was that he was in fact in the process of COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #65

What happenened to the issue of the cop daredtowork Jul 2015 #120

The cop seems to have been on traffic patrol. As such there's COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #128

He would not have even seen you, you would have not mattered to him. He saw an unknown AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #60

The racist white cop had her criminally charged with resisting the illegal arrest and assault on a racist cop. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #104

You then believe that a $5000 bail is an appropriate measure LanternWaste Jul 2015 #5

The actual amount was ony $500. moonandsixpence. Jul 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author tkmorris Jul 2015 #47

Bail was $5,000 for which she could pay a Bail Bondsperson a non-refundable $500. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #105

Okay. Sounds good to me. moonandsixpence. Jul 2015 #110

Bail was set on the 11th, she died the morning of the 13th. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #111

Um...Sorry but I have different feelings on all that. moonandsixpence. Jul 2015 #112

The actual amount of the bail was $5000. pnwmom Jul 2015 #138

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #142

umm...what is this? Catherine Vincent Jul 2015 #144

She was charged with assault and resisting arrest. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #15

manufactured lies G_j Jul 2015 #21

That's your opinion. And you know what they say COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #23

if you saw the video and think that's an opinion G_j Jul 2015 #24

I agree she should not have been arrested in the first place jberryhill Jul 2015 #54

Bullshit. For many Americans quickly coming up with $500 cash is near impossible BillZBubb Jul 2015 #32

Coming up with $500 for the bail bond is onerous for a great many Americans. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #36

Speaks someone with money. Most of the people I know could not come up with $500 without jwirr Jul 2015 #40

That's true. It's harder being arrested if you're poor. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #57

She was actually charged with "assaulting a public servant", a 3rd degree felony. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #103

Why on earth was she not just issued a ticket for a minor traffic infraction? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #48

You're forgetting that he was in the process of COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #49

He didn't 'instruct' her to put out her cigarette, he asked her to. Demit Jul 2015 #64

If you will take the time to look at earlier posts and threads COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #68

Yes, I know the ordering out of the car was declared legal by the SC. Demit Jul 2015 #83

Putting out a cigarette isn't specifically mentioned COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #90

Cop appears to have his clipboard ready for her signature. oasis Jul 2015 #121

A good point. We don't know what his thought processes COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #127

An "inquiry panel" of half-wits could "decipher" what was going on oasis Jul 2015 #129

I assume you believe that he has the right to have COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #130

I'd love to hear "his side of the story". He won't remind anyone oasis Jul 2015 #131

I'm not sure I get the analogy - Jessup, as you will recall COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #132

Unlike the upright Jessup, the cop scum oasis Jul 2015 #133

Do you really see Jessup as "upright"??????? COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #134

"You want me on that wall, you need me oasis Jul 2015 #135

Jessup orders the hazing and then the coverup of the killing COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #136

The injured ego of a rogue cop is the oasis Jul 2015 #137

Except Jessup is just Hollywood fiction. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #146

Brilliant. I'll close with an important FACT oasis Jul 2015 #149

and fade to close with stirring music in the background... COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #151

You're desperately trying to split hairs that, in real life COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #92

Yes. A request from a police officer is optional. JimDandy Jul 2015 #96

I hope you never try this theory out if you're stopped. nt COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #97

We must do what is right, the police and public alike. JimDandy Jul 2015 #100

Yep. Sounds about right. Do let me know COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #102

You're no longer worthy of any further replies on this matter. JimDandy Jul 2015 #108

Ahh yes...someone who reems others about 'facts' JimDandy Jul 2015 #84

OK. Start with Pennsylvania v. Mimms USSCt. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #87

No. We start with the facts in this case. JimDandy Jul 2015 #94

"Facts" for you being defined as "how you wish things should be" COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #98

You are not worthy of my time. Or anyone elses' JimDandy Jul 2015 #99

Not only cognitively dissonant but grandiose as well. Wow. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #101

Facts are facts. Talk about cognitive dissonance. JimDandy Jul 2015 #106

Anyone denying what you say, which is the clear truth and the facts, is not worth arguing with. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #107

Comply? With an illegal order? Since when do citizens have to 'comply' with sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #72

The Supreme Court doesn't agree with you. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #78

You are missing the whole point. But I assume you know that. nt Logical Jul 2015 #77

Not very logical. But I assume you know that. nt COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #80

I love the ass kicking you are taking though. Funny. nt Logical Jul 2015 #81

Killer argument. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #93

Her sister said she would pay the bail - 840high Jul 2015 #114

Seems that Sister may have more than a little COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #118

That's the silliest fucking thing I've heard all week. tkmorris Jul 2015 #141

She was worried she wouldn't get out in time to start sufrommich Jul 2015 #3

She had to come up with 10% of that. moonandsixpence. Jul 2015 #8

there was no grounds for her arrest to begin with G_j Jul 2015 #10

I don't know about bondsmen. moonandsixpence. Jul 2015 #14

A bondsman will take a wire transfer, credit card or Western Union Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #70

Thank you! For the love of God moonandsixpence. Jul 2015 #95

Even if they insist on western union Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #122

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #125

No. The bondsman only pays if she doesn't show up. nt COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #26

But the bondsman charges 10%, $500, to post the bail brush Jul 2015 #41

She came from Naperville IL - median income is well north of $100k/household riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #11

Thank you. moonandsixpence. Jul 2015 #13

so what? G_j Jul 2015 #16

Trying to establish facts is not putting blame Democat Jul 2015 #22

Facts, schmacts. So long as we have our COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #28

Naperville and greater DuPage has tons of Section 8 housing Facility Inspector Jul 2015 #42

Naperville currently has 9 apartments in a city with a population of 144,000 riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #44

Section 8 encompasses more than just apartment rentals Facility Inspector Jul 2015 #45

I don't understand either. 840high Jul 2015 #119

This is an area that activists could work on Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #19

This is exactly where the issue of money makes the difference in what we call justice. And this is jwirr Jul 2015 #35

A bondsman won't just take $500 from you and put up the $5000 bail Recursion Jul 2015 #38

Interesting, here they would do it over the phone Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #123

She wouldn't have been a fight risk. A new job awaited her. oasis Jul 2015 #126

Sad case Hello Dragon Jul 2015 #43

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #50

She could have felt like she had been abandoned udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #85

disjusting dembotoz Jul 2015 #86

People get stuck in the system. I can't imagine how awful it must have been for Sandra Sunlei Jul 2015 #145