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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
18. It is production realigning with cost and revenue.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:22 AM
Jul 2015

Theories and analogies, by definition, are one step or more removed from reality. They can bring in emotion, strawmen and grandstanding and cloud a simple issue.

Reality is: in the marketplace right now, July of 2015, GMO corn with chems and seed costs more to produce than it sells for. The taxpayer has been subsidizing that difference -- $8 bil for 2014 alone. Like everyone else, farmers are hard working, honest people who prefer profit from their own businesses over needing checks from the government just to cover their losses and try again next year.

This isn't about "flying cars" or "luddites" but rather about farmers finding resilience through diversity; the diversity of being able to choose from a variety of crop systems to control costs in an on-going difficult commodities market.

Farmers know the science of their business extremely well. They combine published research with their own tests and observations. Every farmer I know is testing new varietal and new methods. They record data and analyze results so their work has a lot of overlap with active scientists. A major difference is that farmers are in business for themselves so their science has to be focused ultimately on making money.

IMHO that takes even more brain power than doing lab science because it adds the complexity and fluidity of the worldwide commodities markets. You have to produce your crop for less than these prices (good luck!):

http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/nx_fv020.txt

That is SOOO! Great! dballance Jul 2015 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #2
In Vermont. Not a whole lot of purchasing power up there. KamaAina Jul 2015 #3
It will trigger already passed laws in 2 other states (CT + Maine) and more are looking to join GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #4
Maine? Is that one of the bills LePew forgot how to veto? KamaAina Jul 2015 #5
He signed it but the present version requires NH and MA to act first GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #6
it's the one time I can understand what he did and why magical thyme Jul 2015 #8
DUzy! meow2u3 Jul 2015 #15
The problem is, that premium paid for GM crops becomes smaller the more that farmers grow them NickB79 Jul 2015 #7
If the inputs (seed and chems) are lower then cost of production could be lower than GMO GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #9
Some inputs are lower, but yields are also usually lower with organic seed NickB79 Jul 2015 #14
"herbicides to combat corn borer and root worm insects?" Archae Jul 2015 #19
Just askin' Thespian2 Jul 2015 #10
This is what happens when you hand science over to big business. C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Jul 2015 #11
It's democracy applied to science. Igel Jul 2015 #13
It is production realigning with cost and revenue. GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #18
I'm a scientific Luddite. hunter Jul 2015 #16
+1000 G_j Jul 2015 #17
Nice! nt raouldukelives Jul 2015 #12
Which means spraying more chemicals to keep weeds down. progressoid Jul 2015 #20
Good news -- No-Till plus non-GMO hybrids = much less pesticide use. GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #21
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