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dreamnightwind

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162. Oh that is some reasoning there

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:48 AM

Jul 2015

We welcome your poor, your homeless, your no-longer-welcome "normal" Republicans to our party, where they can run without fear of being primaried by the crazy Tea Party. Maybe you do, I certainly don't.

The burden of proof is on the candidate. If he wants to call himself a Dem and get support from Democrats, he needs to show us that he has seen the error of his ways, that he has come to his senses. And no. it isn't the same as someone like Warren who made the switch decades ago and has a long legislative history to judge her credentials by.

I support Grayson, who is an actual Democrat and will fight like hell for issues Democrats supposedly believe in.

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I’m Running for the Senate, and I Need Your Help. Here’s Why. [View all] Alan Grayson Jul 2015 OP

Your choice hurts the Democratic Party and ultimately hurts America Renew Deal Jul 2015 #1

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #35

Oh, hey, look! Third Way "Democrats" LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #45

+1 L0oniX Jul 2015 #54

+2 nashville_brook Jul 2015 #66

+3 Totally unexpected, right? DirkGently Jul 2015 #70

x 100000000000000 SamKnause Jul 2015 #86

+4 Party put up former republican early, Murphy who voted for keystone and many other repub bills. TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #106

Is it "third way" to be factual? brooklynite Jul 2015 #113

No, it is Third Way to dispise traditional Democratic economic policies in favor LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #119

Then it's time to put up a real Democrat. The policy of putting up dinos isn't working too well, and sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #132

"A leftist like Sanders" brentspeak Jul 2015 #144

But we're not talking about 30 years ago... brooklynite Jul 2015 #145

No we're not talking about 30 years ago. YOU are. Today people understand what sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #179

A majority of Americans agree with Sanders' policies LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #183

+ + + + + + + + + + Enthusiast Jul 2015 #169

I'm not looking for that Renew Deal Jul 2015 #56

wow Robbins Jul 2015 #96

So far as I know, and I hope I am correct, you do not speak for the Democratic Party. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #98

There are Democrats down here who oppose him naoya6161 Jul 2015 #99

And? There are Democrats everywhere who oppose every candidate, I'm sure they were down there sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #103

Even though Grayson actually did worse than Sink in 2010? naoya6161 Jul 2015 #104

I love that the Kochs spent millions of dollars trying to stop him in that election and that they sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #108

Remember, he did worse than the moderate in the situation naoya6161 Jul 2015 #111

So you approve of our elections being bought with millions of dollars AND in that case for a sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #174

Being realistic here naoya6161 Jul 2015 #175

Wrong, I watched that race closely and I saw clearly the horrific effects of money on our elections. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #176

Did you actually live in said district during the election? naoya6161 Jul 2015 #177

'if you're going to straight out lie about your opponent'. Exactly, that's what the money sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #180

Provide examples naoya6161 Jul 2015 #181

+1 a huge bunch! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #170

I actually do speak for the Democratic party on this one. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #102

You mean the Third Way Democrats?? Now I know he is a good candidate because there is not a single sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #105

Wrong again Renew Deal Jul 2015 #125

Shirley you must be joking dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #146

After the federal, state and local elections of 2010 and 2014. The federal results alone merrily Jul 2015 #155

When you accept corporate money you accept corporate policies dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #157

We have one party that, for the most part, says the correct things, but people question merrily Jul 2015 #159

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #165

1% born to it bullshit. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #164

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #2

That's both nasty and untrue. DirkGently Jul 2015 #18

Don't even try to argue. DU seems to think that his non-wife is telling the truth no matter what jwirr Jul 2015 #62

Somebody got a time-out. Sissyk Jul 2015 #82

Excellent jury decision. This thread is a disgrace. I come here to support DEMOCRATS not to read sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #110

Spreading Right Wing, Koch funded smears on DU now? I was under the impression that when a Democrat sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #109

Hedge funds in Caymans is real naoya6161 Jul 2015 #112

I am not interested in the personal affairs of politicians and definitely not interested in sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #118

There's already been two complaints filed against him for this behavior naoya6161 Jul 2015 #120

So how do you feel about his positions on the issues? Do you agree with him, disagree? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #126

Murphy shares a significant number of stances on the issues naoya6161 Jul 2015 #128

Which issues do Grayson and Murphy share? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #130

Let's see naoya6161 Jul 2015 #134

Murphy has cast some terrible votes, and if the party doesn't get it by now, democrats will not vote sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #135

Except turnout is always poor during midterms naoya6161 Jul 2015 #136

Worst results since 1928. State results were also record-breaking. This cannot be dismissed as an merrily Jul 2015 #161

Can't read it, even if I wanted to naoya6161 Jul 2015 #163

+++ Nice to see you, Sabrina. DirkGently Jul 2015 #139

Jury Results here: MineralMan Jul 2015 #129

Good jury decision. Thank you. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #131

Robo money trolling. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #3

Does "he" ever respond to his fundraising posts here? tammywammy Jul 2015 #7

I can't swear to it but, no, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #8

staffer or not, what other Dem leaders even know DU exists? nashville_brook Jul 2015 #11

We're on his radar because he sees Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #12

He isn't taking corporate money, like Bernie ,so I don't mind supporting him and any other candidate sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #138

That's also how I feel about it - eom dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #147

I seriously doubt that Rep. Grayson knows the DU exists, GGJohn Jul 2015 #15

Oh no....I know personally that he reads DU and certainly knows about it!!! TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #107

DU is just another avenue for $$$$ tammywammy Jul 2015 #21

that's b/c he doesn't take Wall Street donations like his opponent. nashville_brook Jul 2015 #24

Murphy's got nothing to say to us at all. DirkGently Jul 2015 #22

Exactly. jwirr Jul 2015 #64

Grayson was a member of Daily Kos before he decided to run for office. So it's not a surprise sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #137

I'd love to get more Democratic officials and candidates posting here at DU Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2015 #142

He did a live q&a thread on DU a few years back. I'll look for a link. yodermon Jul 2015 #32

that was epic. wish he'd do another! nashville_brook Jul 2015 #68

I read on firedoglake once that he used to respond there. However, after he had gotten negative merrily Jul 2015 #152

Sounds great! Good luck in your run for senate! Rex Jul 2015 #4

How is this not spam? nt Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #5

Oh FFS... SidDithers Jul 2015 #6

Usually the only time this person, and I highly doubt it's Rep. Grayson himself, GGJohn Jul 2015 #10

With all of his issues, he's still one of the bravest people we have. PassingFair Jul 2015 #9

^^THIS^^ nt tblue Jul 2015 #13

The swarm of conserva-Dems in here kind of DirkGently Jul 2015 #23

It is despicable ... Trajan Jul 2015 #31

And what "assholes" woud we be talking about? Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #36

The aholes who spend their time criticizing our PROGRESSIVE Democratic representatives Trajan Jul 2015 #42

Because the Third Wayers hate actual Progressive Democrats LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #48

That appears to be the idea. DirkGently Jul 2015 #51

Dude, seriously, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #57

Le Taz Hot, you're a 3rd wayer? Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #77

Yeah, I know. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #85

Apparently not. n/t Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #87

I cringe when I see them excoriating Grayson. If I had extra, I'd donate to him. eom Stardust Jul 2015 #114

Ahhh, GGJohn Jul 2015 #39

Yeah ... Seems like a lynching party has been loosed here Trajan Jul 2015 #46

Grab a mirror. Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #133

With his temper, GGJohn Jul 2015 #34

I love his temper. DirkGently Jul 2015 #37

His temper is what caused him to lose against his repub. opponent GGJohn Jul 2015 #40

Maybe. But it's likely how he won as well. DirkGently Jul 2015 #43

We love a fighter but not when he fights for his own rights. Then it is all about the poor little jwirr Jul 2015 #71

Who else would have done something this bold? Plucketeer Jul 2015 #93

Hey, Al! I'm getting screwed by student loans, and I need your help. Orrex Jul 2015 #14

Why should we trust you to win anything? DemocraticWing Jul 2015 #16

+1 n/t Tom Rinaldo Jul 2015 #75

Rep. Grayson DESERVES our help philosslayer Jul 2015 #17

Like hell he DESERVES our help and is entitled to it, GGJohn Jul 2015 #19

Just Grayson has to do that? DirkGently Jul 2015 #25

Wow ... No wonder our party has been stuck in the wilderness Trajan Jul 2015 #33

Like all the rest of the candidates? A candidate may use their own money but most do not. Why jwirr Jul 2015 #78

When do you and Donald Trump have a debate? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #20

IF he hid them in the Caymans it was not for avoiding taxes. It would have been for hiding them jwirr Jul 2015 #79

"non-wife?" You mean the woman he spent decades with, married, and raised geek tragedy Jul 2015 #83

Yes, that one who hid the fact that their marriage was bigamous. She even hid the fact that she jwirr Jul 2015 #91

Thanks for this, I will now donate heavily to your opponent in the primary. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #26

his opponent is a lifelong Republican who only changed parties to run nashville_brook Jul 2015 #27

Doesn't mean anything when Grayson is being supported by conservative groups (like Club for Growth) naoya6161 Jul 2015 #28

(D) is all that matters, an that's what's after his name. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #30

Grayson's a very popular Rep with a national profile. DirkGently Jul 2015 #41

He would lose by a landslide statewide eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #92

That's right. only the letter after the name matters, not the actual policies LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #53

Murphy would win. Grayson would lose by a landslide MohRokTah Jul 2015 #94

You already showed your true colors. Republican policy is fine LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #100

+1 Go Vols Jul 2015 #116

+2 dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #148

Well of course you are, since he is a Republican and changed nothing except LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #52

We don't donate to the wealthy... kentuck Jul 2015 #29

Weird argument, isn't it? n/t DirkGently Jul 2015 #44

LOL. jwirr Jul 2015 #80

Dupe. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #38

Totally different post, actually. N/t DirkGently Jul 2015 #47

I don't see it that way. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #50

Dems should not ask DU for support? DirkGently Jul 2015 #55

His staff is more than free to ask, and they are. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #59

Well, I support Grayson fredamae Jul 2015 #49

I'm hoping this isn't a hit and run money troll. Are you here Alan or is this agent Mike? L0oniX Jul 2015 #58

Thank goodness! Because I am NOT voting for DINOs like Murphy, Wasserman-Schultz, and Nelson. djean111 Jul 2015 #60

Murphy voted for Romney. DirkGently Jul 2015 #63

Murphy gave the MAXIMUM amount to Romney. nashville_brook Jul 2015 #65

Should end the discussion, frankly. DirkGently Jul 2015 #69

2008 though naoya6161 Jul 2015 #84

No that was after 8 years of Republican lunacy in the White House dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #149

I'm talking about WHEN he made the endorsement naoya6161 Jul 2015 #151

Actually I think what happened in 2008 is absolutely an issue! dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #154

Tea Party naoya6161 Jul 2015 #156

That's no mea-culpa at all! dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #158

Except you have no proof of that naoya6161 Jul 2015 #160

Oh that is some reasoning there dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #162

God, how the world turns packman Jul 2015 #61

I want Dems to ask us for money DirkGently Jul 2015 #73

Yes, so do I. This is one way that we can help in states we are not familiar with. As to this lingo jwirr Jul 2015 #88

91% of Hillary's donors since she announces gave less than $200. NYC Liberal Jul 2015 #117

Then, if you live in Florida, you can vote for someone who only left the GOP so he could run djean111 Jul 2015 #74

If I lived in FL I would vote for you. ananda Jul 2015 #67

1% tazkcmo Jul 2015 #72

The DINO that the DNC is pushing is also a 1%, and was GOP right up until 2011, and votes with the djean111 Jul 2015 #76

ok. tazkcmo Jul 2015 #81

I understand that. But I have a problem with voting for DINOs to get into the Senate djean111 Jul 2015 #89

While Grayson is wealthy I don't think he is in the Koch brothers category - uber rich. jwirr Jul 2015 #90

Thanks for this important info. merrily Jul 2015 #153

So you won't vote for Hillary Clinton for President? philosslayer Jul 2015 #127

Get Bernie to come down and campaign for you! KamaAina Jul 2015 #95

YES!! Good for Rep Grayson. We need as many Progressive Democrats in the Senate as we can sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #97

Despite what a few are posting, you have my support Alan! B Calm Jul 2015 #101

Just checking back to see if Congressman Grayson Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #115

Wonderful copy and paste job Grayson-bot! tritsofme Jul 2015 #121

Sincere question... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #122

shall the Congressman while away the hours in The Lounge sharing cat pics nashville_brook Jul 2015 #141

Wow NobodyHere Jul 2015 #123

Did you contribute to Hillary? She is vastly wealthier than Grayson, and is bragging about how djean111 Jul 2015 #167

I've never been a supporter of Hilary NobodyHere Jul 2015 #172

That is a moot point, really. ALL politicians, wealthy or not, ask for djean111 Jul 2015 #173

She is not wealthier than Grayson BainsBane Jul 2015 #182

Alan we have started a DU for Grayson Act Blue link Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #124

I plan to help soon. mmonk Jul 2015 #140

I have not been a Florida resident for many years, RebelOne Jul 2015 #143

Alan - I supported you in your first House race... brooklynite Jul 2015 #150

then you'd be supporting the loser -- we have the data, FL voted for Rick Scott b/c nashville_brook Jul 2015 #166

Grayson consistently underperforms the top of the ticket in his district. Freddie Stubbs Jul 2015 #178

Considering how many people have contributed to the VERY wealthy Hillary Clinton, and djean111 Jul 2015 #168

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! I donated. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #171

Question: Do you actually participate on DU... NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #184