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Motown_Johnny

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57. But Hillary gets a pass...

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Sat Jun 20, 2015, 11:25 AM

Jun 2015

On this..

on trade...

on Iraq...

On whatever she wants. She is Hillary and that is that.

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(Video) Hillary in 2004 on "Sanctity" of Hetero marriage. [View all] Bonobo Jun 2015 OP

Haven't you heard? Hillary has evolved, as many of us have...Move on, people. Move on. TheDebbieDee Jun 2015 #1

I have many t-shirts that are over 25-30 years old Bonobo Jun 2015 #2

Kick nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #3

man, she really hits all the ugly, bigoted talking points. and cali Jun 2015 #4

"Whither the people go, I will follow; for I am their Leader." n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #7

sickening nt m-lekktor Jun 2015 #5

I wish you luck convincing glbtq folks and people of color HRC is a homophobe and a bigot... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #6

I can't force you to see what is right in front of your eyes. Bonobo Jun 2015 #9

no one is saying that GLBT folks think she's a bigot, but you damn well know cali Jun 2015 #10

I could hardly believe what Bill said in his DOMA signing statement: Bonobo Jun 2015 #14

Isn't that the same time... Oilwellian Jun 2015 #8

I also found her manner of speaking in the video to be strange. Bonobo Jun 2015 #23

I'll leave the judgements for the gay community to make.... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #11

Let everyone make their own judgments AFTER the facts and history are on the table. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #12

Yes, of course. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #13

Indeed. For politicians and for clergy. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #15

everyone, gay or not has the right to judge her on all issues cali Jun 2015 #16

True, but not everyone is in a position to judge her from... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #20

How do you explain this video? delrem Jun 2015 #40

one criticism many have of the Clintons is they look at political expediency too much, remember that JI7 Jun 2015 #43

I didn't know that. delrem Jun 2015 #45

Yes it is encouraged madokie Jun 2015 #17

Hillary is not a politician in the Bernie Sanders mold Tom Rinaldo Jun 2015 #18

Really. That's quite some trust you're willing to give. delrem Jun 2015 #41

What does concern me? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2015 #54

Were a lot of Democrats publicly calling for marriage equality in 2004? Orrex Jun 2015 #19

yes. and most certainly were not giving seeches like that. cali Jun 2015 #21

Interesting. Who? Orrex Jun 2015 #22

Bernie Sanders. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #29

I believe you, but I would appreciate a link to a particularly clear statement on the issue Orrex Jun 2015 #59

Howard Dean nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #44

Howard Dean opposed gay marriage in 2004. Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #53

All of them. Except Hillary Clinton. n/t delrem Jun 2015 #47

Surprised this is being so easily overlooked. Just watch it and ask yourself WTF? nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #24

flat out religion based bigotry cali Jun 2015 #25

Plus you have to add in the nauseating political expediency angle. Don't forget that. Bonobo Jun 2015 #28

Religious fundamentalism. Period. delrem Jun 2015 #42

Hillary "Weather Vane" Clinton Oneironaut Jun 2015 #26

. riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #27

Well unlike Bernie Sanders Hillary has evolve dontcha know Autumn Jun 2015 #30

Not just a bond but a "sacred" bond ? Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #31

Let me know when you pass this along to the 18 million people who voted for her in 2008... brooklynite Jun 2015 #32

I think it's best to start close to home. Bonobo Jun 2015 #33

The ironic thing is she is practically a gay icon DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #35

That is the most inexplicable thing. Bonobo Jun 2015 #36

All I will say is wait for the votes to come in... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #37

I am sure you are right, but I have to wonder how the cognitive dissonance Bonobo Jun 2015 #38

it's not surprising to anyone who actually listens and pays attention to what people are saying JI7 Jun 2015 #39

The data suggests she is hugely popular among people of color and the lgbtq communities DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #55

One day this country will have to confront its homophobia. DemocraticWing Jun 2015 #34

why the Clintons and especially Hillary are popular among LGBT JI7 Jun 2015 #46

DOMA delrem Jun 2015 #48

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot. History doesn't count. n/t delrem Jun 2015 #49

Social justice! nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #50

Oh yes, those two are surely the leaders! nt delrem Jun 2015 #51

+1 Metric System Jun 2015 #58

She has come around to supporting equality- one suspects, privately, she always did- now that Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #52

K/R Autumn Jun 2015 #56

But Hillary gets a pass... Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #57

Obama's position prior to 2012 was "marriage is between a man and a woman...God is in the mix". Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #60

Evolved. Bonobo Jun 2015 #61

Probably. I also like to think that Obama privately opposes the death penalty, Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #62

There are lots of ways to divide up the types of people in the world. Bonobo Jun 2015 #63