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InAbLuEsTaTe

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65. Why let facts get in the way cali? haha...when Hillary can just ignore them and pretend to be somebody she's not.

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Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:49 PM

Apr 2015

Unfortunately, Hillary is all we got right now. Still holding out hope though that Elizabeth changes her mind and runs.

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Campaign 2016: Hillary Clinton's Fake Populism Is a Hit - Matt Taibbi/RollingStone [View all] WillyT Apr 2015 OP

I may be wrong but I honestly don't believe I am, I have complete faith in her ability to set AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #1

Ach, du lieber Gott! Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #4

I don't really believe in god AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #16

evidently: people often have their faith in God shaken and questioned MisterP Apr 2015 #81

? Not sure what gave you the idea that I had faith that was shaken concerning what some call God AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #83

depends on who your god is ND-Dem Apr 2015 #93

I guess.. AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #146

There are some who if they don't like what you said in a post,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2015 #183

what in her economic record leads you to that belief? cali Apr 2015 #8

A very interesting article... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #19

that's not even about HRC cali Apr 2015 #92

It absolutely strikes a cord concerning her and others economic stance In the political realm AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #149

She wants to raise taxes on the wealthy far more than any other candidate. Cryptoad Apr 2015 #145

And you have some documentation for that claim? bvar22 Apr 2015 #150

No need to cite "common knowledge" Cryptoad Apr 2015 #170

I provided facts. bvar22 Apr 2015 #175

so do tell, which GOP candidate's position is more progressive Cryptoad Apr 2015 #182

Oh , Come On Toad, bvar22 Apr 2015 #184

got nuttin? Cryptoad Apr 2015 #185

Are you saying she wants to more than Bernie or Elizabeth. donnasgirl Apr 2015 #157

Of course not... Cryptoad Apr 2015 #168

I agree with Elizabeth donnasgirl Apr 2015 #169

I do too,,, Cryptoad Apr 2015 #171

I may not have already won the Publisher's Clearinghouse Grand Prize...... DeSwiss Apr 2015 #49

Cute ;) hope you get your money;) AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #64

Was that a double entendre? Martin Eden Apr 2015 #53

Good one ;) AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #66

What lies? She didn't lie. She acknowledged. Why the purist bit huh. bjobotts Apr 2015 #60

I'm impressed that you know actual politicians that are 100 percent truthful, could you share info? AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #68

you really whupped the shit outta that strawman.. frylock Apr 2015 #134

Bernie Sanders comes as close to that standard as any. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #147

You see that's where we should all stop and take a real look around us..how many of us actually AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #151

Have you watched Bernie Sanders? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #156

Bad Move billhicks76 Apr 2015 #76

I will agree to disagree.. And hope your wrong ;) AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #84

+1 n/t MissDeeds Apr 2015 #85

I live in Iowa…here is the deal... CoffeeCat Apr 2015 #132

A hearty concurrence from this Iowan. Skidmore Apr 2015 #152

Make This An Op-Ed Piece billhicks76 Apr 2015 #158

READ THIS Agony Apr 2015 #167

Sorry but it doesn't even pass the most basic logic test. She is a member in great standing rhett o rick Apr 2015 #129

I felt the same way about President Obama... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #160

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #161

"Faith" is belief without evidence. hifiguy Apr 2015 #173

Folksy with a wink wink to Wall Street. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #2

What could be better? Enthusiast Apr 2015 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #3

The problem is that sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #5

What sexist garbage bluestateguy Apr 2015 #6

Excuse Me... I Must Have Missed It... But Where Did The Sexist Part Come In ??? WillyT Apr 2015 #9

She's a woman. Taibbi made her Look Bad. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #21

And there it is. Autumn Apr 2015 #29

Nailed it. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #73

Matt can take it DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #87

what is sexist about it? cali Apr 2015 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #14

As sure as eggs is eggs. nt hifiguy Apr 2015 #20

Eggs is misogyny IronLionZion Apr 2015 #201

Good that they're getting their practice in on us. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #22

Yep MissDeeds Apr 2015 #80

LMFAO ...fail L0oniX Apr 2015 #25

Thanks for the laugh. n/t brentspeak Apr 2015 #26

Hmm... it IS sexist to regard her views as beyond criticism just because she is a woman. arcane1 Apr 2015 #32

Those...... DeSwiss Apr 2015 #48

"Hillary's devotion to the unwashed. " BeanMusical Apr 2015 #78

critizing a woman now sexist. kind of like in 1890. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #94

Your contribution is to call someone sexist? That's all you have? Nothing substantive? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #128

bit early in the game for accusations of -ism, isn't it? frylock Apr 2015 #135

Her "populism" is as phony as a three-dollar bill hifiguy Apr 2015 #7

Hillary's new-found populism seems phony only cuz she's new to it. With a little practice, perhaps it will come across a bit more sincere & Elizabeth-esque. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #58

Get your $3 Nixon bills right here Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #107

LOL! Haven't seen that graphic since hifiguy Apr 2015 #140

She can talk her Populism talk all she wants. It rings hollow and I don't think Autumn Apr 2015 #11

Practice makes perfect. No doubt, the hundreds of consultants Hillary had hired will help as she works on her populism schtik... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #62

So we are subject to fake reporting of Hillary's agenda, accept she will try to change some of the Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #12

she is center right on economic issues. accept that Fact cali Apr 2015 #18

That is your opinion, it is not my opinion. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #31

isn't it also your opinion that social security disability is populated by fraudulent claims ND-Dem Apr 2015 #95

Why let facts get in the way cali? haha...when Hillary can just ignore them and pretend to be somebody she's not. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #65

Did you read article, pretty interesting and speaks to your subject at hand.... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #70

The money quote: Maedhros Apr 2015 #13

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Apr 2015 #24

NO kidding. Like it's pulled straight from the posts of the Fan Club Doctor_J Apr 2015 #38

+10000000000000000 woo me with science Apr 2015 #44

elegy reddread Apr 2015 #50

+1000 nt abelenkpe Apr 2015 #91

+1 million and a half. yes, very familiar from DU. talking point central, call the number. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #96

Yep - this is the pony shit. polichick Apr 2015 #105

Truth at last. Couldn't have said it any better. whereisjustice Apr 2015 #109

Yep. nt raouldukelives Apr 2015 #133

+ 1,000,000,000 - Perfect !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #196

She is a fake. I can't ever vote for her. Arcadiasix Apr 2015 #15

So, if she is the Democratic nominee for President in 2016, who will you vote for? blue neen Apr 2015 #86

Still waiting. blue neen Apr 2015 #90

I will never vote fot her. If there is a progressive on teh ballot I will vot for that one if not I Arcadiasix Apr 2015 #99

You're saying if it all comes down to Hillary Clinton vs. , say Jeb Bush then you will not vote. blue neen Apr 2015 #108

Two possibilities, I think... Adrahil Apr 2015 #120

I would vote for her in the general election. But when I attend my state's caucus totodeinhere Apr 2015 #139

An even better quote: Maedhros Apr 2015 #17

And that quote nails it. zeemike Apr 2015 #52

Well, who really knows? But I think Liz is very reluctant to run Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #59

Well I don't know that either. zeemike Apr 2015 #82

I think she's reluctant to run because she's not prepared, not interested in the job, and they'd eat MADem Apr 2015 #131

Hillary has been vetted, bvar22 Apr 2015 #162

Who's "we all?" Plenty of people don't share your view. MADem Apr 2015 #166

You're right. I was presumptive. bvar22 Apr 2015 #178

So, you're saying the guy who posted MADem Apr 2015 #187

I respond in kind. EOM. bvar22 Apr 2015 #190

I merely asked you a question--and you didn't/couldn't respond to it. MADem Apr 2015 #200

The.... sheshe2 Apr 2015 #202

I think she listened rather than talked magical thyme Apr 2015 #102

if Hillary can mobilize the base that will be great. nashville_brook Apr 2015 #23

Agree, but pushing back the skeptism AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #27

I am told by many here Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #30

I would wonder about that persons true agenda that would tell you that AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #34

and they're all farrrrr lefffft. which means they are interested in economic issues and thus ND-Dem Apr 2015 #97

Hillary(Harold) Hill pushing band uniforms... yourout Apr 2015 #28

I never realized that was Buddy Hackett until now BlueStreak Apr 2015 #36

Our middle son was one of the barbershop guys in the high school musical. yourout Apr 2015 #39

He sang "Shipoopi" in the movie! SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2015 #176

What an extravaganza. I hadn't seen that in over 40 years. BlueStreak Apr 2015 #205

Anybody who believes that B.S is really gullible. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #74

Oh DON'T READ TAIBBI...the hits on his articles just make him feel right! HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #33

It is smart. Americans of all stripes support liberal positions about 60-75% BlueStreak Apr 2015 #35

another good one from Mr. Tiabbi! m-lekktor Apr 2015 #37

who cares if its fake or not woolldog Apr 2015 #40

I, for one- care. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #45

we will lose if she does, woolldog Apr 2015 #47

We've already lost if we continue on this course. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #56

Hear, hear. woo me with science Apr 2015 #63

. arcane1 Apr 2015 #57

Everyone needs to shut up and get behind hillary. frylock Apr 2015 #136

I'm not quite ready to reduce it to that common denominator just yet. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #141

I've never heard a more cogent and convincing political argument LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #142

! DeSwiss Apr 2015 #41

Matt Taibbi also said that presidential candidate John Kerry was stiff and boring. PBass Apr 2015 #42

Shit, he is!!! Stiff as a fucking board. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2015 #46

Kerry was stiff, boring, and in 100% agreement that we should invade Iraq. arcane1 Apr 2015 #61

Worse yet, he's a vicious shill for the Corporate Oligarchy Demeter Apr 2015 #123

He has verbally attacked Venezuela and its democratically elected government... bvar22 Apr 2015 #192

Yeah, but he was stiff and boring until he was - or wasn't- or whatever. Fuddnik Apr 2015 #67

Matt was right about Kerry. 840high Apr 2015 #69

"How's the weather in Boston today, Senator Kerry?" Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #98

.....! KoKo Apr 2015 #118

^ This is brilliant! ^ RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #130

Some love for the Major today. SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2015 #177

Kerry was stiff and boring. magical thyme Apr 2015 #104

So you are saying he was dead on accurate then? LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #144

Plastic populism. Quid pro quo populism. JEB Apr 2015 #43

FINALLY! Two plus two equals four! woo me with science Apr 2015 #51

Because Republicans anti-populist rhetoric is terrifying. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #54

K&R and To the Greatest Page. woo me with science Apr 2015 #55

+several brazillion Demeter Apr 2015 #124

It's not fake. KMOD Apr 2015 #71

Sorry.... Pauldg47 Apr 2015 #88

No, I'm not wrong. KMOD Apr 2015 #89

if you define "true blue liberal" as pro-war, pro-Wall Street and pro-TPP magical thyme Apr 2015 #106

Matt Taibbi is a... one_voice Apr 2015 #72

Taibbi hates Rand Paul betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #103

Some people here use the word 'libertarian' like teabaggers use 'socialist." QC Apr 2015 #116

I know, right?... one_voice Apr 2015 #126

That's what happens when you assume... one_voice Apr 2015 #125

lololol - And Greenwald is a poopy head! whereisjustice Apr 2015 #113

As we post to this thread Hillary Clinton is still carefully considering how she feels... raindaddy Apr 2015 #75

Just a thought Thespian2 Apr 2015 #77

Kick and R. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #79

Oops, forgot to rec. Thanks so much, Willy. I have a small confession to make cali Apr 2015 #100

HRC - Hope And Change Redux - America Never Seems To Learn cantbeserious Apr 2015 #101

Oh look... An Obama hater.... How quaint. n/t Adrahil Apr 2015 #121

the fuck? frylock Apr 2015 #137

I second that. bvar22 Apr 2015 #193

Kicked and recommended several million. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #110

Truckers on I-80, lol. I'm sure that went over well. Remember Romney's "I like grits, y'all" moment? whereisjustice Apr 2015 #112

K&R..... daleanime Apr 2015 #114

K&R! Big time! marym625 Apr 2015 #115

You have to admit, it took years in the making, but we have a genuine McCandidate. So patently whereisjustice Apr 2015 #117

So krool, so krool Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #127

There are few good journalists left and he is one Fearless Apr 2015 #119

I'm expecting... Dopers_Greed Apr 2015 #122

"....the tax break "sounds" unfair, but that if you look at the details..." Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #138

The Golden Rule... kentuck Apr 2015 #143

good article. we need more cleaning, less wax & polish. NuttyFluffers Apr 2015 #148

I wish I had the time to tally all the Anti-Hillary-Clinton discussions started on this site, but... George II Apr 2015 #153

Theater? Maybe. I'm encouraged that all the candidates are playing the same movie. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #154

Thank You, OWS. bvar22 Apr 2015 #208

Exactly. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #209

I'm on the fence about Hillary Clinton personally, but it has to be said: Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #155

Populism has nearly always been fake BainsBane Apr 2015 #159

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #163

Che was not a populist BainsBane Apr 2015 #165

Eh. i disagree with Taibbi, here. I give her props just for bringing it up. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #164

That's the problem... MellowDem Apr 2015 #179

Okay, but at this point in time in this particular universe, the only two options are Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #180

I'd rather she bring it up... MellowDem Apr 2015 #181

I'm Ready For Oligarchy cantbeserious Apr 2015 #172

That. Is. Fucking. Perfect. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #191

+ 1,000,000,000 - Perfect !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #195

Love it! truebrit71 Apr 2015 #198

I don't think it's fake at all MaggieD Apr 2015 #174

No. bvar22 Apr 2015 #189

Which policies, specifically? MaggieD Apr 2015 #207

IF Hillary were to actively disown Bill'smistakes DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #204

Why does she need to? MaggieD Apr 2015 #206

The Clintons are unique in American History. bvar22 Apr 2015 #210

That's not a good justification MaggieD Apr 2015 #211

Had Hillary been the 2 for 1 President of the 90s who championed Free TRade, bvar22 Apr 2015 #212

Pick up a history book MaggieD Apr 2015 #215

because, if we do not like what Bill has done DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #213

It's totally sexist.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #214

Sexist to say DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #216

No. It is sexist to assume she doesn't.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #217

I do belive she has her own positions DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #218

She does say them and pretty much always has MaggieD Apr 2015 #219

I love Taibbi....he's the best... trumad Apr 2015 #186

Perhaps Hillary is all we can hope for at this point. All we can do is cross our fingers that she YOHABLO Apr 2015 #188

I'm calling it..Hillary in a landslide workinclasszero Apr 2015 #194

Bookmarking! LOVE ME some Matt Taibbi!!! He's Always Spot ON! 2banon Apr 2015 #197

For someone who is suppsed to be a liberal Bartlet Apr 2015 #199

Pssst... I Wouldn't Use The B-Word If I Were You... WillyT Apr 2015 #203