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In reply to the discussion: Party Loyalty [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)99. You mean the tea party that has utterly dominated the Republican party?
Yeah, they really don't get anything for their party loyalty.
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Plus it is another RW falsehood. The Dem vote for Bush in Florida made Nader votes meaningless.
Rex
Mar 2015
#14
Also conveniently forgotten is the approx. 80,000 probable Dem voters who were wrongfully purged.
Fuddnik
Mar 2015
#22
unrelated aside: i recently learned diebold is a very old company, started as a safe company
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#92
And ES&S is no better. Diebold accomplished its 'mission' but had such a bad reputation
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#139
It's former glory was the 1950s & 60s. the only thing he likes about that period was segregation
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#91
yes. i don't get why some folks are so fixated on nader while caring so little about voter
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#55
too challenging intellectually, emotionally, psychologically to face the facts.
2banon
Mar 2015
#135
And that would help explain why so many Republicans were elected and so few Democrats this last
-none
Mar 2015
#210
+10 Saw the video & post about the Chair of the FL Dem. Party & her husband. Awful- Mess.
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#167
He is not missing the point. It appears you have completely missed the point. GORE WON!
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#39
Must have been a conservative-Bush voting Dem no doubt. I emember Sandra O'Connors comments
2banon
Mar 2015
#137
I'm sure MIRT, assuming it was not a long time poster, took care of that obvious right wing troll?
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#181
You're the one that has "missed the point" as well as misunderstanding the facts.
2banon
Mar 2015
#118
Would you support instant runoff voting then? Ralph Nader running then wouldn't have mattered...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#124
That's something to think about. You make some excellent points that if Dems really
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#218
"It’s strange to me, as an activist on the left, to see how we continue to be taken for granted"
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#8
Jesus, I'm sorry the haberdasher from Independence allowed himself to be used
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#245
Excellent OP. One of the issues I have with the center is that they always demand party loyalty
Rex
Mar 2015
#9
heck, the vacuous parties south of the border would at least hand out a little beef
MisterP
Mar 2015
#127
Southcom in Panama, Ft Benning, Ft Bragg, and some mysterious place in Houston TV's broadcast range
MisterP
Mar 2015
#156
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I sure as heck wish you and H20 Man woud build
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#248
I read somewhere that, in 1980, the then head of the DNC wrote Democrats in Congress,
merrily
Mar 2015
#282
There's no point in winning if we act like republicans when we get in. Policy and politics aren't
craigmatic
Mar 2015
#17
We need to start thinking past just getting the SCOTUS nominees to getting progressive laws passed.
craigmatic
Mar 2015
#31
Right now, the SCOTUS nomination is the MOST IMPORTANT thing as President can do.
Adrahil
Mar 2015
#65
Who was the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee when Scalia and Thomas were confirmed?
Fuddnik
Mar 2015
#126
I tend to think of all these little word-completer and spell-check functions
Jackpine Radical
Mar 2015
#82
If you are worried about Scotus, then tell the Party Leadership to provide candidates that represent
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#40
I was going to reply to you but woo said it 576 times better than I could
LondonReign2
Mar 2015
#192
'I'm not interested in noble defeats'. Me neither. So you must be, like most Democrats I know, very
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#93
And I've personally seen our current DNC Chair endorse Repukes over progressives in congressional ra
Fuddnik
Mar 2015
#134
Amazing, isn't it? How it's okay for elected Dems to endorse Republicans, while BLAMING VOTERS
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#142
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. -Will Rogers
Katashi_itto
Mar 2015
#23
I stopped reading at --- "Still, Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election."
Major Hogwash
Mar 2015
#32
The truth is the truth and it's hard to contradict it. Gore won that election. And he would have
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#48
Who said Gore became President? No One. Gore Won, but wasn't ALLOWED to take his rightful place.
2banon
Mar 2015
#147
Well, personally I would not comment on something I admit I did not read. I would find it hard to
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#179
AKA: A "bloodless coup d'etat". I agree with you, but it's fascinating that the person
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#249
Thank you for this excellent OP. Bookmarking for the inevitable scolders and fingerwaggers.
SaveOurDemocracy
Mar 2015
#34
Are you implying that the rest of us here haven't done the same thing? THAT is the point of this
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#43
Are you saying that the Democratic Party is NOT 'left'? Since when did the 'left' become a
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#50
All the benefit they need to know is they don't have an elk's chance in a supernova without us and
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#94
My anger was well earned over a number of years. I didn't start out this way by ANY stretch.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#131
How sad. You are using, maybe inadvertently, the old Limbaugh, Right Wing noise machine
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#271
Yes, there isn't a Democrat around here who doesn't recognize those old talking points aimed at
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#304
You're not alone. Dem Party voter registration is down to only 32% with many now registering
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#223
Well, it's possible I'm misunderstanding you. And I do respect that you are willing to discuss
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#225
The Third Way Think Tank has enormous influence on the LEADERSHIP of the Dem Party. They
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#187
You know you keep trying to convince yourself (and others) of that ...
1StrongBlackMan
Mar 2015
#201
That poll proves what I stated. The majority of Dems are Liberals. Conservo Dems dropping
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#220
I am baffled by that chart also. It proves me and the other poster to be correct. The smallest group
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#228
+1, this logic seems like common sense low hanging fruit, the rest seems like rationalization
uponit7771
Mar 2015
#76
Mahalo 1StrongBlackMan!.. No, "party loyalty" from me whatsoever.. I couldn't care less..
Cha
Mar 2015
#229
Me, neither.. it seems stupid. Maybe somebody on here was talking about the need but I ignore
Cha
Mar 2015
#257
This is so true: "the true progressive-liberal wing rarely gets any seat at the table"
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#45
The left is taken for granted...and then blamed if things don't work out right
cyberswede
Mar 2015
#79
I think the real reason why Republicans do not treat their voters, no matter how far out they are,
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#194
Especially when it is THEIR ideas that are the most popular with Voters across the political spectru
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#146
And they've lied about that too. We are constantly told the lie that 'this is a right of center
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#198
It's odd that those calling for Party Loyalty vote for Democratic politicians who disloyally
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2015
#51
the ones who applauded Lieberman after lecturing us that third parties were ruining America?
MisterP
Mar 2015
#123
And you're not the only one nor are your friends. The largest voting bloc in the country now
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#221
Party loyalty doesn't make much sense. People should vote for the Democratic candidate in close
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#78
Loyalty to the oligarchy to win elections. OZ ...uhm ...err ...Money has spoken.
L0oniX
Mar 2015
#86
Now I just shake my head when I read negative posts here about the Democratic Party`s "left"
democrank
Mar 2015
#96
I prefer Warren and I probably won't vote for Hillary in the primary, but yes . . .
Vinca
Mar 2015
#162
I saw this starting back in the 80's when I worked in local television news operations...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#144
Greg Palast is doing it on a shoestring. Even with the money, can we build a liberal media?
Gregorian
Mar 2015
#158
And I again see the media as playing a role in educating people to even see this.
Gregorian
Mar 2015
#166
Yes, we need to strategically do public campaign financing right. It isn't well understood yet!
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#175
Generally, the Democratic left can be taken for granted because we are compassionate, responsible,
Zorra
Mar 2015
#149
Outstanding OP and thank you for the history lesson here for the younger members.
2banon
Mar 2015
#152
Magisterial essay. Should go viral, imo. The "anybody but Jesse" campaign
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#242